The Ryan/Biden Vice-Presidential Debate

Discussion in 'Politics' started by CoinOKC, Oct 11, 2012.

  1. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Yeah! I figure. The would you used was "position". DONE! Now you change it! YEP!
     
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  3. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    You simply parse words for the sake of twisting and turning your ideology into reality which is sort of impossible because it is so fringe.

    I really was addressing everyone, well with the exception of idiots, but that is all that I seem to have attracted. I'll make it simple for you and if you want to continue to parse words instead of offer Romney quotes on policy positions, I'll simply move on and wait for a non-idiot to respond. Who knows, we could get a new Partisanlines participant from the Right-wing at any moment.
     
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  4. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    I did not change your words. Ryan has a "position" (per your post #14). The fact that you choose to now ask for a "policy" (per your post #19) and you consider my response not a "policy" is exactly the escapism I expected when I called you bluff.
     
  5. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Anyone else? :rolleyes:
     
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  6. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Let me help you RW'ers...

    Romney on the Issues

    1. Romney on Health Care: Romney has made strong statements against the Health Care Reform bill passed by Congress and signed by President Obama in 2009, stating that "American has witnessed an unconscionable abuse of power." During the campaign for the Republican nomination, Romney has repeatedly expressed support for repealing the bill, stating in December 2011, "If I'm President, we're going to get rid of ObamaCare and return, under our Constitution--the 10th Amendment--the responsibility of health care to the people in the states." However, as governor of Massachusetts, Romney passed a bill that was largely similar to the national model ultimately included in the health care bill passed by Congress in 2009. Indeed, in 2009, Romney stated that "We need to advance a conservative plan--one based on free choice, personal responsibility, and private medicine; one that doesn't add massive new federal spending. I like what I proposed in Massachusetts when I was governor..." while speaking to the Conservative Political Action Conference. Romney has clarified this past support by suggesting that the Massachusetts model may not be appropriate for every state.
    2. Romney on Taxes: Romney supports eliminating the estate tax (currently applied only to those inheriting more than $3.5 million) and eliminating all capital gains taxes for those who earn less than $200,000 a year. Romney has proposed a balance budget amendment requiring Congress to submit a balanced budget each fiscal year to help contain the current budget deficit. In early 2009, Romney came out against the stimulus bill passed by Congress and signed by President Obama, calling for increased tax cuts over increased spending. Romney also strong endorsed the plan put forward by Congressman Paul Ryan in early 2012 that proposes to solve the budget deficit by cutting nearly $5.3 trillion in federal spending while simultaneously slashing tax rates for Americans earning over $150,000 a year, calling it "simply marvelous" and a "bold and exciting effort" in March, 2012. In September, 2012, video surfaced of Mitt Romney telling a crowd at a fundraiser: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people who pay no income tax. ... [M]y job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
    3. Romney on Foreign Policy: In March of 2010, Romney expressed support for President Obama's decision to increase troop levels in Afghanistan, calling it "the right course to take." During the 2008 presidential campaign, Romney repeatedly called for no fixed timetable for a withdrawal from Iraq, and expressed support for the Bush administration's decision to invade Iraq in 2002. Throughout most of the presidential campaign, Romney has criticized the President's policy towards Iran, and has said that if elected President, he would "take every measure necessary to check the evil regime of the ayatollahs" and "buttress my diplomacy with a military option that will persuade the ayatollahs to abandon their nuclear ambitions." It is unclear how this differs from President Obama's policy, as the President stated in a recent interview "all options are on the table," and that the final option is the "military component."
    4. Romney on Education: Romney is a supporter of the No Child Left Behind program started under the Bush administration. Romney generally supports increased funding of charter schools and school voucher programs. He is also a strong supporter of abstinence education in schools.
    5. Romney on Gun Control: Romney is a relative moderate on most gun issues as compared with many other Republicans, signing a ban on assault weapons as governor of Massachusetts in 2004. Romney received a B rating from the NRA while running for President in 2008, indicating a pro-gun stance on most issues. Romney's views on guns have shifted over time, in 1994, he stated "I don't line up with the NRA" in defending his support for the Brady Bill, which imposed a five-day waiting period on gun sales and a ban on semi-automatic rifles. However, Romney joined the NRA in 2008, and has since called himself a "lifelong" hunter of "small varmints."
    6. Romney on Social Issues: Romney has generally drifted to the right on social issues in recent years. He came out strongly against the Obama administration's decision to mandate that employers (including religious organizations) provide birth control coverage to employees who wanted it, stating in February 2012, "I don't think we've seen in the history of this country the kind of attack on religious conscience, religious freedom, religious tolerance that we've seen under Barack Obama." In recent years, Romney has spoken out against abortion and called for overturning Roe vs. Wade, however, while governor of Massachusetts, Romney repeatedly described himself as pro-choice. He explained the evolution of his beliefs on abortion in an interview with the Des Moines Register in 2007, stating, "I was effectively pro-choice when I ran for office. When I became governor of Massachusetts, the first time a bill came to my life that dealt with life, I simply could not side with--with taking a life, and I came on the side of life. Every bill that came to my desk, every issue that related to protecting the sanctity of life, I came down on the side of life." Romney also has expressed opposition to gay marriage, stating "I believe we should have a federal amendment in the constitution that defines marriage as a relationship between a man and woman, because I believe the ideal place to raise a child is in a home with a mom and a dad." He reiterated this opposition to gay marriage after President Obama offered support for gay rights in May 2012, stating "I believe marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman."
     
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  7. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Description of BO in the first debate?

    I thought Biden came across as childish & desperate, his likability numbers dropped, I'm sure and he didn't seem to have the slightest grasp on policy.
     
  8. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    You opinion puts you squarely in the minority camp. Good for you! :D

    Fifty percent of uncommitted voters who tuned into Thursday night's vice presidential debate in Danville, Ky., said they see Vice President Joe Biden as the winner over Mitt Romney's GOP running mate Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., according to an instant poll taken by CBS News.
     
  9. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Yeah, I've heard the media spin too...only I'm not buying it.
    Didn't you think Biden's little laughing spells came at some pretty odd times? I mean what's so funny about diplomats being in danger or high unemployment anyway?
     
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  10. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Biden obviously thought those issues were something to laugh about. Remember, Biden is a "smile with a body behind it".

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  11. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    ....don't forget "model for hair plugs", too!
     
  12. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    Um.....I'm going to refer you back to this post the next time you say I don't make sense, or have odd posts. :eek:
     
  13. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Now the polls aren't to be believed...again!? I've noticed this pattern with you Right-wing weirdos. When a poll has your side losing, it isn't to be believed. When a poll shows your side leading, you post it here. Seems just a little bi-polar to me. :eek:
     
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  14. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Coming form the expert in that area,

     
  15. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    You are still too slow to recognize that was sarcasm. Too funny! :D
     
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  16. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Yeah, you pretty much nailed it!
     
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  17. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Hey! Lapdog bitch # 2. We can always count on you to come in and slobber your dog drool all over your master. Here boy! Here boy! Who's a good dog? Who's a good dog? You are! You are! Yes you are! :D
     
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  18. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Dang you are so easy to manipulate! I posted what I did just to elicit this response and you didn't disappoint.
     
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  19. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    I think he must have spent the weekend on the couch. After a silent weekend, he goes off in a flash.
     
  20. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    It's a meltdown & I think it's indicative of what's happening on the left these days.
     
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