women more violent than men?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by timesjoke, Feb 21, 2008.

  1. atlantic

    atlantic Big Time BS

    I tried having a neighbor speak with him, and my neighbor was friendly, and the man walked away from him without answering.

    He may be watching me and if he is, he has learned that I am always outside with my son, my son is never alone. I'm sure then he's seen that I keep an aluminum baseball bat in the trunk of my car, the other weapons I carry.


    I like how you handle things but I would never invite him to my home, with my luck he'd show up.
     
  2. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    Ted Bundy killed a friend of mine's sister too. She was going to collage in Seattle. Her name was Susan Rancourt. Stacy and Samantha were living up here with thier parents at the time. Yeah I remember when she was just a missing person and it was very hard for the family.
     
  3. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er

    ---------------- Victims Offenders
    -------------- Male Female Male Female
    All homicides 76.5% 23.5% 88.8% 11.2%


    Males are 8 times more likely to commit homicides. Males are much more violent. It's biology combined with greater economic pressures on males.
     
  4. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    Then you keep doing it over and over.

    If the guy refuses to even reply when you introduce yourself he obviously has an issue of some sort. His walking away would have me being more and more persistant.


    Sadly it is not your kid I am concerned about. While he knows your child is well taken care of, he now knows what kids are not well taken care of.


    Nobody said he was going to leave, at least not under his own power ;)

    Clearly I offer the time at my range as a warning that I am not just armed, but well trained in the use of firearms. It is a clear and direct threat to anyone who has bad intentions.


    His last victim was my friend, her name was Kimberly Leach and was 12 years old at the time. Killing her was not the worse thing he had done to her.



    I can tell you this, if I catch someone like that, they will never see a courtroom.
     
  5. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    This stat doesn't really prove anything. Just because men are more likely to murder someone, doesn't necessarily mean they are overall, more violent. Homicides are a small percentage of acts of violence.
     
  6. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er


    Homicides are the peak of the triangle, would you like statistics on assault? You will find the same pattern. Any group that commits 8 times more homicide is more violent than the group it is being compared with.
     
  7. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    The problem with stats on this is that, men are unlikely to report incidents of violence committed on them by a woman. An act of violence could something so benign as a wife/girlfriend throwing something at a guy for a comment, or not listening to them or whatever all the way up to murder. There couldn't possibly be any accurate stats on this topic, only stats of reported incidences.

    I'm not saying women are more violent, I'm just saying any statistical data on this is flawed as to it's reliability.
     
  8. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er


    That is why I used homicide. Homicides tend to be close to 100% reported. Any first year biology student can tell you about testerones relationship to aggression. To argue women are more violent goes against any statistic you can find and basic biology.
     
  9. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    Just because testosterone can cause more aggression doesn't mean that it is acted upon with violence. I think we all have had times where we would really like to respond to a woman with violence, but don't because, reason and societal values, override the aggression.
     
  10. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er


    The fact is there is a positive correlation between high testerone levels and violence.
     
  11. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    It's a fact that depression is one of the biggest factors in suicides. It's a fact that women are about twice as likely to suffer from depression then men, but suicide victims are twice as likely to be men. This goes against what would be expected, due to other variables.

    Just because men have more testosterone, and testosterone is connected to aggression, doesn't mean that there aren't outside variables that override the response of violence.
     
  12. wez

    wez Big Time BS

    Prolly due to mens more violent nature that they succeed at suicide way more often..

    But women can be pretty damn violent too.. no doubt about that.

    Women are more apt to strike out emotionally, with words.. Men typically go for the body. Society pretty much demands men suppress their emotions.. which I think leads to greater physical violence.
     
  13. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    Among a lot of variables, women are also more likely to admit they are depressed and seek help. Men are also less likely to have "cry for help" fake suicide attempts. They just do it.

    The thing is a lot of the violent responses women do, aren't viewed as violent. Things like, a single slap for a comment made, a smack in the back of the head for looking at another women (a guy would never get away with that one in public like women do), and things along this line.
     
  14. wez

    wez Big Time BS

    Which also goes along with expected emotional suppression. We're suppose to be tough guys, we don't seek help.



    I view them as violent.. just as. I think hair pulling is the biggie.. :D

    Really though, suppressing ones emotions is at the root of it all, I believe. A lot of women are raised to be tough guys too.. Quite unhealthy, we have emotions for a reason. Why suppress them, ever? I did for a long time.. no more.
     
  15. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    Actually the studies show women are more violent, meaning their first reaction to things will be violent compared to a man's. Like my own example, my ex-wife turns to hitting my kids with a belt all the time while I never spank my children.


    Men are stronger so when they turn to violence, their actions cause more damage but women hit men from anger way more often then men hit women.

    As IWS pointed out, I see woman get mad and hit their men all the time, in public for things like looking at a pretty girl or making a comment they did not like. Women can strike men in public and nobody ever thinks twice about it.

    Men are seen as deserving anything a woman does to him by default.
     
  16. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er

    Of course, every statistic I have ever seen shows men are way more violent, backs up what you would assume based on biology.
     
  17. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    Why doesn't the assumed results of suicide, based on biology, match up then.

    Like I said, statistics can only reflect, reported acts of violence, and any statistic that relys on that, is subject flawed results due to the many variables.
     
  18. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer


    Well then you don't look at even the stuff posted in this thread.

    This is an example:
    University of Florida News - Women more likely to be perpetrators of abuse as well as victims

     
  19. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er


    Nearly 100% of homicides are reported. They represent the top of the triangle. The overwhelming numbers of individuals hospitalized due to an act of violence are overwhelminlgy put in that hospital by a male. You can not equate a slap with a shooting in any rational discussiuon of violence. Violent males are also more likely to take aggressive actions against their own self. That explains the suicide rate differential.
     
  20. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    I have no problem agreeing that males are more likely to resort to extreme or higher levels of violence. The issue at hand is violence, not excessive or high leveled violence, so yea, a slap or throwing objects or whatever violent act, however so slight, counts.
     

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