Will food shortages cause Martial Law?

Is Martial Law in our near future? I have seen reduced food stocks in grocery stores during the past few months, read of crop failures due to drought, the huge increase in the price of fertilizers, no-grow subsidies to farmers, the price of electricity is climbing rapidly, heating oil prices remain high and will increase as demand rises, gas and diesel fuels will accelerate after the mid-term election, etc. With expected food and sanitary item shortages, will rationing become the new norm, food lines at the grocers, riots in the streets from lack of food availability, etc.? Should we begin to stock up on items or hope there is enough on the shelves for everyone?
What thinkist thou?

 

Chicken Little.

 

Martial Law? I don’t see that happening in the U.S. We are still a free-market capitalist society and I believe that will be enough to get us through our bleak future as opposed to, say, a socialist regime like Venezuela where people can’t get food or even toilet paper.

Unless we are led down the primrose path to a socialist or communist society by the likes of Obama, Bernie, biden, Pocahontas Warren or AOC, we don’t have anything to worry about. Until then, we will be just fine.

 

Your response is typical of a Leftist Looney. Some will be safe and many may be sorry.

 

He wouldn't type stupid krap like that implying cowardice if he had experienced Lang Vei or Tet.

Clown.

The failure of that Ideology of División BS is, if he needed to be rescued, I would still do it, today. So.....

 

The closest he has come to battle is the fight in his own head on whether to choose the lobster or the filet mignon.

 

The reason for my post, is the callousness displayed by the post by JN.

Tet, at its core, was designed and executed as a terror campaign against the civilian population. That is quite different from causing fear. A response of fear allows hope of survival. Complete and utter terror removes any hope of survival or thoughts of enemy compassion or hope of survival or protection by anybody.

This was the goal. Crops were destroyed. Livestock was killed, save what was needed for the use of the enemy. Grain and Rice storage was destroyed. Fields were devastated, using fire, mines and chemical destruction. Killing of any civilians in their path was immediate.

At Lang Vei, (and many other locations) one moment the civilians were there, and had surrendered their fears and were filled with hope due to the presence of a protecting force, and nutrition supply. Hope.

The next moment, the civilians were gone. Gone. No hope, no fear, just a realization and understanding that there was no protection from fanatical terrorists, and they would die. They did, in quantities that made many individuals that used Fear as a weapon of Honor as a response to the enemy, cried at the butchering of innocent civilians.

The devastation and hunger left in the wake of Tet lasted years. Civilians stopped appearing at U.S./South Vietnam strongholds and did not believe there would be hope anymore. They were terrorized, and could not fathom hope.

All these thoughts and memories immediately clashed in my mind, when I read the JN post. now, having mentally calmed a little, I realize I was reading the post of a true Narcissist. The history of his posts now make complete sense to me.

Chicken Little indeed. That was the exact goal of the terrorists.

 

. . . or whether to each 10 year olds to smoke hash, give BJs, or burn the Stars and Stripes.

It's difficult for libs, y'know? They think they can have it all.

 

No clue what you seek to articulate but you seem sick.

 

You liberals cannot hide what you think . . . it is worn on your sleeves. The sickness is yours, and America will suffer for it.

 

You make up in your feeble failed addled mind what you desire to believe what others think and make false claims about them with no proof.

The gall of you making idiotic claims stinks worse than the abscess that must be in your skull.

This is why you are called out. Lack of skills regard language, logic, reason, etc, .

Your default knee jerk reaction is : I (think) am under attack !!! this must be a liberal democrat !!!!
and of course you have been taught or convinced yourself that you are all good in that circumstance no matter what ... and sink back into the maggot swarm. Warm and cozy eh? which of you is the lord of the flies?

 

Back to the original question….. I am reminded of the toilet paper crisis of 2020. We all saw the images of the family next door types that were fist-fighting in the grocery store isles for the last package of Charmin. To this day my wife still keeps bundles of TP stacked in our garage…… The whole point being that if something as benign as toilet paper can send civilized Americans into a frenzy, how then will we react when the Cocoa Pops disappear from the shelves? I do believe that @Robert Ransom has a valid point that we do need to consider. The Fed has not been the least bit shy about flexing its muscle of late and we have all been warned of the fertilizer and grain shortages coming down the pipe. Americans aren’t accustomed to doing without and if we will fistfight over a roll of TP, just imagine how far we will go to keep the family fed. It is a valid concern.

 

Here is the lesson you didn't learn from 2020. There never was a TP shortage. Panicky fearful chicken littles ran out and hoarded TP. That caused some shelves to be empty, not an actual shortage of TP. The lesson you should have learned was don't hoard, not have your wife go out and fill your garage with pallets of TP. The shortage we did have was entirely man-made from the perspective that it wasn't necessarily a lack of raw materials, but a sudden overwhelming demand due to hoarders.
What 2020 did demonstrate was that we are a selfish bunch of self-interested idiots with little to no regard for our fellow citizens. We only think about ourselves. In any shortage situation, be it TP, gas, Christmas trees, COVID vaccines, Americans first inclination is to think of themselves, not the rest of the country. Prove me wrong. The world's greatest country has issues.

 

Simple supply and demand. In the case of the TP shortage, the demand from the end user (no pun intended) outweighed the supply, thereby causing a shortage to the consumer.

Toilet paper companies increased production when the demand was high and decreased production when the demand subsided. This scenario happens every day with just about any product imaginable.

As far as Americans thinking only of themselves instead of the country, I will ask if you did without toilet paper during the shortage or were you benevolent and allowed your fellow humans to stockpile while you sat idly by and did without?

 

Hoarding is not simple supply and demand. It is an economic aberration that impacts the market unpredictably outside of investment buying usually associated with panicking behavior.

Hoarding in economics refers to the concept of purchasing and storing a large amount of product belonging to a particular market, creating scarcity of that product, and ultimately driving the price of that product up. Commonly hoarded products include assets such as money, gold and public securities, as well as vital goods such as fuel and medicine. Consumers are primarily hoarding resources so that they can maintain their current consumption rate in the event of a shortage (real or perceived).
Hoarding resources can prevent or slow products or commodities from traveling through the economy. Subsequently, this may lead to the product or commodity to becomes scarce, causing the value of the resource to rise.

A common intention of economic hoarding is to generate a profit by selling the product once the price has increased. Hence, economic speculators tend to hoard products that are inelastic in price so that when the price of the product does increase, the demand for that product is maintained. Unlike investing, hoarded goods are excluded from an economy’s flow of money and generally occurs in markets operating under a non-competitive structure. The practice of hoarding can have varied effects in the economy and is legal in most cases, however price controls and other regulatory laws are often enforced to prevent negative market implications.

I didn't hoard during the pandemic in that I didn't have a garage full of TP. I never saw a reason to hoard. It seemed like a silly waste of money. Or maybe I just have a bidet.

 

Please take time away from pleasuring your "circle Buddy" and add something useful. Some questions for you and the Chicken.

1. Do you believe there will be food shortages all over the US next year? AND...

2. Will food shortages cause Martial Law?

 

The OP asked a sensible question.

We get this ignorant nonsense from little Joey. "Chicken Little."

There is a reason ignorant folks like joey are not concerned and even may think the OP's post is a fantasy. They are ignorant of what is going on in the world and with the farmers in the US.
Don't mind them. They will find themselves in the same boat as us.

 

Hey Zippy, You swerved into some truths and partial truths again.


JoeNation, posted: "Here is the lesson you didn't learn from 2020. There never was a TP shortage. [ACTUALLY THERE WAS BECAUSE...] Panicky fearful chicken littles ran out and hoarded TP. That caused some shelves to be empty, not an actual shortage of TP. [ACTUALLY IF YOU CAN'T GET SOMETHING - NO MATTER THE REASON, THERE IS A SHORTAGE] The lesson you should have learned was don't hoard, not have your wife go out and fill your garage with pallets of TP. [That way you can suffer with the rest of the folks who can't wipe their butts as usual] The shortage we did have was entirely man-made from the perspective that it wasn't necessarily a lack of raw materials, but a sudden overwhelming demand due to hoarders. [Who were panicked by reports from the corrupt press]
What 2020 did demonstrate was that we are a selfish bunch of self-interested idiots with little to no regard for our fellow citizens. We [most of us] only think about ourselves. In any shortage situation, be it TP, gas, Christmas trees, COVID vaccines, Americans first inclination is to think of themselves, not the rest of the country. Prove me wrong. [Nice swerve, When you are right, you are right.] The world's greatest country has issues. [We sure do - much of it caused by its ignorant citizens.]

 

There won't be any food shortage for me between now and the next 364 days.

You don't seem to know what Martial law is.

 

freshmeat, posted: "There won't be any food shortage for me between now and the next 364 days."

I'm glad, enjoy your rice and chop sticks.

You don't seem to know what Martial law is.

Of course I don't. I'm not the OP either. He may know. Why don't you take a guess an tell me:

WHAT IS MARTIAL? Are the Chinese doing it anywhere. Why?