Why #OWS Spells Trouble for the GOP

"Why should we provide ....." So businesses can succeed and prosper here.
"Why are we obligated......." So we can earn a living. If the businesses do not succeed, they will fold or go elsewhere (just as you have so aptly invited them to do). And then what will the rest of us do?

BTW, which amendment to the Constitution is "the commitment to promote the general welfare of all persons"?

 

We don't owe businesses anything. Whether they succeed or fail is none of our business.

You are simply suggesting that protecting the interests of a narrow section of the population contrary to the founding fathers intentions. You further suggest that if we do protect the interests of this narrow section of the population the rest of us will be successful. All you have to do is look at the last 30 years and see that this narrow class has done extremely well to the tune of almost a 300% increase while the rest of us have continued to lose ground. Is protecting this narrow class of the population really working out for us? I'd say that all economic indicators say NO! But keep pushing the lie right into the poor house. I'm in the upper 5% and I will be happy to come on down a toss you some bread crumbs.

 

I am in no way suggesting that any rights be given or otherwise limited to any group. In fact, the constitution I read says that you cannot single out any group for special protection, rights or punishment. Just how can you put a special tax on the wealthy to distribute it to the poor (or even to make up for the poor not paying) without creating special protections, rights, or punishments for one group or another? I believe that you are confusing rights with abilities. Someone with the ability to becomes rich has no more or less rights than those who do not have the ability.

 

Spoken like a true gov't employee.
I'll bet there are a lot of people out there (and on this board) who wouldn't necessarily agree it's "none of our business" if a business fails....it sure would be my business if the company I work for fails!

 

Again, the Constitution says, "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration." So don't tell me you are reading the Constitution when you don't have any idea what it says about taxes. You simply make up what you obviously don't understand once again. Surprise surprise!

 

Spoken like a true corporate apologist.

 

....and member of the working class who needs the business he works for to succeed!
You are clueless.

 

As usual, you have completely missed the point. I never denied that they could tax.

 

Oh, so now you are blue collar. Well you must of had a demotion recently because according to your previous posts, you work in management. So which is it now? Working class people take showers after work, white collar people take showers before work just so you can figure out which one you are.

 

Interesting. I'm not an expert on the Constitution and I presume you aren't either (please correct me if I'm mistaken), but perhaps you can give your opinion on this. RLM pointed out that there is no Constitutional authority for the government to levy any special taxes on any particular group of people. I think you would agree with that, but if you have a different opinion, please say so. You pointed out that the Constitution states that the "Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes...", etc. Do you believe this gives the Congress the power to levy a special tax on particular people?

 

You get stranger & stranger..IT WAS MADE CLEAR TO ALL THAT YOU LEAVE PEOPLES FAMILY'S OUT OF THESE DISCUSSIONS then you talk about watching people through the windows & now you want to discuss my showering habits? Very odd.
**But to clear up your confusion, I work for my employer, I'm an employee of a business. Sure, I'm in management but I serve at the whim of my employer just as anyone would. You knew the answer to that though, didn't you?

 

I know how you like to make up stories about my kids and I know how much pleasure you get in thinking about it endlessly. Frankly, I think you are a pervert and the mods should close your account. I'll leave that up to them.

 

I do believe that he hit a nerve. Got some more hate to expel?

 

You're calling someone else a pervert? Really?
Make up the story? Heck, you told us about it yourself!
....and remember, I don't take the first shot but I do fire back when I'm the target of a hateful post.

 

Yes it is. At least until you explain why it isn't. I've given you my take.

 

LAST TIME OF TELLING PEOPLES FAMILIES ARE OUT OF BOUNDS

 

In many places the Police have been ordered to crack down and they are. And sometimes they have reacted rather more violently imo than a supposedly trained disciplined force has a right to in view of the nature of their opposition. I would say that The Corporation is seeing OWS becoming bigger and longer-lived than they expected. They're not liking it much so they're putting the pressure on.

 

The police reaction is probably based largely on all the reports of violent activity within the Flea Party communities- the drugs, the stabbings, the thefts, the rapes, etc.

 

There was one Flea Party member who said that "health and safety take a back seat to the First Amendment" referring to all the rats the protesters have attracted, the filth they've left behind and referring to the violence (including armed robbery and rape). I'm sorry to say that if you put my health and safety at risk, your First Amendment right is put on hold.

 

This point is a valid one (but the Flea Party? please . . .). I've tried to point out many times that these "occupy" movements are hazards to public health and welfare because they attract rats and other pests. That large a collection of people, few of whom are clean at this point, will leave food and other debris all over--the collection of garbage after a single Mardi Gras parade on a single day is astounding, so I can't imagine what offal people are wading through right now after weeks of "occupation." The drugs, stabbings, rapes, etc. are just the normal, if unfortunate issues that come with large collections of people that consider themselves to be outside of the law. I wonder why we should be so surprised when they happen, since people who feel themselves limited by respect of the law typically won't attend these kinds of events. It's really time for these "occupations" to end, since they are no longer effectively making their arguments, and for the protestors to move on to other forms of protest. In my opinion, it would have made more sense for them to have a limited duration (a day, a weekend, a week) so that they could not devolve to the point to which they've devolved at this point.