Who Gave Away Their Rights To The ACLU?

Were you one of those who said the ACLU could speak for you? How much dues do you pay for this honor?

QUESTION: Who in their right mind would join and pay dues to this organization?

Again, this begs the questoin, has anyone given up their rights to have someone like this speak for them? I don’t think so, as no one would be that stupid.

Is this what you would expect from a NON-PROFIT, tax exempt orgainazation? Does it surprise you to learn of the following:
1. Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, was the first director of the ACLU's Women's Rights Project.
2. All of the political and legal foundation affiliates are registered as a 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) entity, respectively. All membership dues and tax-deductible donations are shared between the affiliates and the national office.
3. One of their main stated goals is the decriminalization of drugs such as heroin, cocaine and marijuana;
4. The ACLU opposes the use of crosses in public monuments, and has urged the removal of cross-shaped headstones from federal military cemeteries and has also opposed prayer by soldiers;
5. The ACLU has defended the Ku Klux Klan. Its clients are notoriously unpopular such as neo-Nazi organizations and the North American Man/Boy Love Association, (NAMBLA)
6. The ACLU fought for the Westboro Baptist Church and Shirley Phelps-Roper after legislation prevented the group from picketing outside of veteran's funerals.
7. The ACLU has been a vocal opponent of the USA PATRIOT Act of 2001, the PATRIOT 2 Act of 2003, and associated legislation made in response to the threat of domestic terrorism.

Talk about a righteous, self appointed, bunch of hypocrits. Is it any wonder the country is in such a mess with people like this being allowed to carry on in this fashion. I have a cure for each and every one of them, and it comes in 150 gr. at about 2700 fps.

 

Hmmm, Glad I chose the DAV to speak for me when dealing with the Veterans Affairs. The *VFW and *American Legion also get my vote and cash when they need it to protect and maintain my rights as a US Veteran.

*They have pretty good cash bars too if I ever feel the need to mingle with my "Brothers In Arms" on occasion.

 

I guarantee that they didn't use my money.

 

aclu can kiss my...

 

boat? apple? sister? house? WHAT? Which one is it!!!

 

I belong to this important org. They helped my church group. You are ignorant

 

yeah...they help a lot of churches when it comes to freedom of religion and speech...

 

Excuse me Danr, I didn' t know you were a member of the Westboro Baptist Church. When is your next protest happening?

 

Could we get you to name two of those churches they have helped?

 

Roman Catholic group (Newman club)

 

I got my renewal letter today (no kidding). I'll send them a check.

 

I know that most of you guy's dont like this organisation but can any one of you honestly say that they have never done any good ever? Come on now be truthful

 

I kid you not. The local community college were not going to let my church group meet and the ACLU made them back off.

 

To quote Groucho Marx, "I wouldn't join any club that would have me for a member."

 

I know that they have taken credit for things that were all right, but in fact had very, if any, real effect on the happening. I can also say that I actually no of ABSOLUTEL NO good this group has ever tried to get accomplished.

 

Even a broken watch has the correct time twice a day.
So, No, they did do some good.
I am sure that if we look back to the segregation issues of the 1950's (and earlier) that we (today) can applaud any issues that they won.

 

The ACLU of Virginia (2002) joined the Rev. Jerry Falwell in winning a lawsuit arguing the Virginia Constitution's provision that bans religious organizations from incorporating is unconstitutional. www.aclu.org/religion/frb/16040prs20020417.html

The ACLU of Massachusetts (2002) filed a brief supporting the right of the Church of the Good News to run ads criticizing the secularization of Christmas and promoting Christianity as the "one true religion" after the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority refused to allow the paid advertisements to be posted and to sell additional advertising space to the church. www.aclu.org/freespeech/gen/10925prs20020108.html

The ACLU of Nevada (2005) defended the free exercise rights and free speech rights of evangelical Christians to preach on the sidewalks of the Strip in Las Vegas. www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=3379553&nav=15MVaB2T

The ACLU of New Mexico (2005) joined forces with the American Family Association to succeed in freeing a preacher, Shawn Miller, from the Roosevelt County jail, where he was held for 109 days for street preaching. The ACLU became involved at the request of Miller's wife, Theresa. www.stcynic.com/blog/ archives/2005/08/aclu_defends_another_street_pr.php; www.aclu.org/religion/gen/19918prs20050804.html

The ACLU of New Jersey (2005) filed a a motion to submit a friend-of-the-court brief on behalf of Olivia Turton, a second-grade student who was forbidden from singing "Awesome God" in a voluntary, after-school talent show. The only restriction on the student's selection for the talent show was that it be "G-rated." The case, filed in federal court, is Turton, et al. v. Frenchtown Elementary School, et al. www.aclu.org/religion/schools/20174prs20050920.html

The ACLU of Michigan (2005) filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of Joseph Hanas, a Catholic, who was criminally punished for not completing a drug rehabilitation program run by the Pentecostal group. Part of the program required reading the Bible for seven hours a day, proclaiming one's salvation at the alter, and being tested on Pentecostal principles. Staff confiscated Mr. Hanas's rosary and told him Catholicism was witchcraft. www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/22354prs20051206.html

The ACLU of Pennsylvania (2005) won a battle against Turtle Creek Borough that repeatedly denied an occupancy permit to a predominantly African-American church, Ekklesia, which had purchased the church building from a predominantly white parish. The case is Ekklesia Church v. Borough of Turtle Creek. The case was settled. www.aclupa.org/downloads/SpringDocket.pdf

The ACLU of Nevada (2004) represented a Mormon high school student, Kim Jacobs, who school authorities suspended and then attempted to expel for not complying with the school dress code and wearing T-shirts with religious messages. Jacobs won a preliminary victory in court where the judge ruled the school could not expel her for not complying with the dress code. The First Amendment issue of student expression is before the Ninth Circuit. www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/text/2004/sep/09/517482854.html; www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2004/nov/19/517853141.html

The ACLU of Washington (2004) reached a favorable settlement on behalf of Donald Ausderau, a Christian minister, who wanted to preach to the public on Plaza sidewalks. www.aclu-wa.org/detail.cfm?id=57

The ACLU of Virginia (2004) interceded with local authorities on behalf of Baptist preachers who were refused permission to perform baptisms in the river in Falmouth Waterside Park in Stafford County. www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A16839-2004Jun4; www.aclu.org/religion/discrim/16230prs20040603.html


The ACLU of New Jersey (2004) appeared as amicus curaie in opposition to a prosecutor's act of striking potential jurors from a jury pool based on the fact that the prosecutor perceived those individuals to be "demonstrative about their religion." One potential juror was a missionary; the other juror was wearing Muslim religious garb, including a skull cap. The ACLU-NJ argued that such an action violates the religion clauses of both the United States and New Jersey Constitutions. It also argued that not only is it inappropriate for jurors to be struck because they are demonstrable about their religion but, in addition, such a basis will often amount to a removal based upon a particular religious belief or affiliation and will lead to discrimination against identifiable religious minorities. The case is State v. Fuller (NJ SCt 2004). www.aclu-nj.org/legal/closedcasearchive/statevlloydfuller.htm

The ACLU of Pennsylvania (2004) settled a lawsuit on behalf of Second Baptist Church of Homestead, a predominantly African-American church that had been denied a zoning permit to operate in a church building purchased by a white congregation. The occupancy permit was awarded in 2002, and in 2004, the Borough of West Mifflin agreed to pay damages and compensate the church for its loses. The case is Second Baptist Church of Homestead v. Borough of West Mifflin. www.post-gazette.com/neigh_south/20021029churchsuitsouth2p2.asp; www.post-gazette.com/localnews/20021116aclureg6p6.asp; www.post-gazette.com/pg/04111/303298.stm

The ACLU of Massachusetts (2003) intervened on behalf of a group of students at Westfield High School who were suspended for distributing candy canes and a religious message in school. The ACLU succeeded in having the suspensions revoked and filed an amicus brief in a lawsuit brought on behalf of the students against the school district. Students who were suspended include Daniel S. Souza, Stephen J. Grabowski, Sharon L. Sitler and Paul Sitler. www.aclu.org/studentsrights/expression/12828prs20030221.html

The ACLU of Rhode Island (2003) interceded on behalf of an interdenominational group of carolers who were denied the opportunity to sing Christmas carols on Christmas Eve to inmates at the women's prison in Cranston, Rhode Island. www.rifrn.net/blog/blogs/noskin_b.php?p=45&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

The Iowa Civil Liberties Union (2002) publicly supported a group of Christian students who filed a lawsuit against Davenport Schools asserting their right to distribute religious literature during non-instructional time. The ICLU filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the suit on behalf of the students. www.aclu.org/studentsrights/religion/12811prs20020711.html



The ACLU of Michigan (beginning in 2001) represented Abby Moler, a student at Sterling Heights Stevenson High School, whose yearbook entry was deleted because of its religious content. www.freep.com/cgi-bin/forms/printerfriendly.pl; www.aclu.org/studentsrights/expression/12845prs20040511.html

The ACLU of Eastern Missouri (1999) secured a favorable settlement for a nurse, Miki M. Cain, who was fired for wearing a cross-shaped lapel pin on her uniform. legalminds.lp.findlaw.com/list/news/msg00021.html

The ACLU of Iowa (1997) represented Conservative Christians in Clarke County and won the right to force a county referendum on gambling. www.aclu.org/studentsrights/expression/12852prs20050429.html

The ACLU of Pennsylvania Greater Pittsburgh Chapter (1995) secured the right of a minister from the United Methodist Church to hold meetings in the Harmony Township Borough building that was open for use by community groups.



to name a few...with the ACLU one has to remember that the motto is...I may not agree with your message, but I will defend your right to express it.

I find it abhorent that they defended NAMBLA and other real crappy institutions...but they were not defending the message...but the right to freely express it. With a group like, say, god hates fags...these people have the right to say what they say...I think its good they are out there shouting hate from the mountain tops...anyone who hears it, save aiden and real nutjobs, will see them for what they are...and we know who the hatemongers and sickos are...

I would not join a group that defended NAMBLA though...I understand why they did...but still.

 

Drusus:
OldDan asked for two!!!
(LOL)

 

okay...so its overkill

 

Thankfully... we don't have a chapter in SoDak. If I remember correctly it was voted out back in 1988 or there abouts. The closest is Fargo, ND, LOL

http://www.theroc.org/report/sd.htm