Which one will be BO's Watergate??

The difference here is that BO is directly involved in each one of these scandals whereas the Bush era scandals (if they were indeed scandals at all) seemed to involve people other than Bush, right?

With Solyndra, Light Squared, that Scandanavian electric car deal, etc, they were major campaign donors who rec'd billions in taxpayer money, some against better advice.

 

Translation: Others have done wrongs. Therefore, Obama can do all the wrongs he wants.
WOW! I guess that also means Bush/Cheney did nothing consequential either!

 

Bush, Jr.'s administration was directly involved in some of the scandals. Some were very similar to the scandals you accuse Obama to be involved in. Time will tell, but I'd say Jr.'s administration will prove far more corrupt than Obama's. Of course, it's a given that you disagree, and the final verdict will take several more years to arrive, even if Obama winds-up a one-termer.

Nice touch on the "if they were scandals at all" thing... you're ability to deny Republican scandals in the face of a seemingly insurmountable amount of evidence to the contrary is impressive lol

 

I've said this many, many times... but of course you didn't listen. When someone or something is wrong with Obama, liberals, or Democrats, I have no problem saying so. Haven't I in the past? Granted, I haven't as much as you would like, or as strenuously as you'd like, but haven't I said some things about Obama, some liberal ideas, some Democratic principals... haven't I called some of their wrongs? Accusing me of letting Obama do whatever he wants, because I posted a massive list of Republican scandals, is bs, but not unexpected from you people. You people are nuts that way lol

So, I could say something nice about Jr. (but not Cheney... EVER! ...his beliefs and actions are so repellant to me that it restricts my ability to do so), I could easily. But that wouldn't appease your sheer hatred would it? You need an all-out condemnation of all-things Obama, of all-things liberal, of all-things Democratic. I can't do that 'cause I'm not an extremist. I see both sides as doing some things good and some things bad. Here we generally focus on the bad. Vile, frothing-at-the-mouth vitriol (nod to Coin), is the norm here, so if you want me to admit that Jr. or Dick did anything consequential you should expect me to post the negative consequences... especially to counter one of the million (wrong) negative-of Obama-liberals-Democrats posts you extremists put out there. I mean really... what do you expect?

SO, ...do you deny all the scandals Republicans faced during the Jr. years? Did they never happen? Are they inconsequential to your point about these "Obama" scandals? Got anything good to say about Obama? I'll take a guess and say you'd reply something like "Yeah! In about a year he'll be gone!"...or am I mistaken?

 

You say Bush's administration was involved in the "scandals" you listed whereas I say BO is involved in these current scandals. Big, big difference.

 

I never said anything about Bush's ills one way or the other. You did. If you had read what I said, I did not even disagree with you - all-be-it just to maintain the peace. When confronted with Obama's scandals, all you could do was point to Bush's problems and make excuses for Obama.

BTW, those "unexpected flood of cheaper knock-off panels coming from China" were already on the market and your nemesis Bush foresaw them. That is exactly why his administration dropped that project.

 

True, if the allegations are themselves true. And if Jr. himself wasn't involved directly in any scandal... but he was. Several in fact.

 

I did say that if the AG was involved in illegal activities than he should be fired and on trial for it, and I'd say the same for Obama if he has been involved directly with an illegal act. I haven't seen the evidence to say he has been or not, though I do see a lot of misinformation out there, and know that bs is the norm for radical extremist Republican think tanks to post, so what info out there tends to be untrustworthy. And I'd say the same for Jr. and Dick, who should have been imprisoned for their direct involvement with illegal activities, and the info for those crimes is less ambiguous. But of course, that's not the focus of the thread is it? The focus is on "how to make Obama appear to be the worst President ever"... and that means any talk about Jr. or Dick or any Republicans is taboo.

But, how about an experiment to prove my point, how about I say something nice about Jr.? He created the largest marine preserve (in Hawaii) and protected vast areas of Alaska from the oil companies. Can you say anything nice about Obama?

 

Actually, I don't think BO needs any help appearing "to be the worst President ever".

 

Who cares? There is more value in speculating about who will be voted off the island. It amazes me that people honestly think that in the long term it really matters whether the Republicans are in charge or the Democrats are. The destination is the same. All the Dems are doing is trying to give us an upgrade on the flight.

 

From my pov Reagan and Jr. will be way higher on the list of worst Presidents, any fair and balanced list of course. Extremist Republicans will of couse scream differently, but they are nuts so who cares? lol

 

There always seems to be a scandal in a presidency. Every presidency. I do think the AG should be prosecuted just so we can find out the truth about what actually happened. Solyndra, you have a point, but still, I do not believe it was monitored closely enough. Other than those two problems, I don't see much in the Obama presidency. Now, you are right about Bush's eight years in office and he did bring us to the brink of financial ruin because he instituted things and congress passed things that were never paid for. Talk about Obama all you want, but he sure hasn't done that.

 

What? Are you kidding? We borrowed for BO's stimulus packages, we borrowed for cash-for-clunkers, we borrowed so that he could give billions to his cronies, we borrowed so that he could extend unemployment coverage up to 2 years....

 

Nothing nice to say about Obama then? I think that I've made my point. I can say a nice thing or two about Jr. and most Republicans, yet you guys can't say one nice thing about Obama? That's extremist behavior. It's absolutely fine to be partisan, but hard-lining isn't going to solve America's issues, so I also call that behavior unAmerican.

...not counting you here eric... you're new here and have shown a willingness to see more than one side of an issue. I'm talking to the hard-liners... they know who they are lol

 

I don't know if you're counting me or not, but here it goes:

1) His daughters love him.

2) He has a great golf swing.

3) He doesn't wait till the last minute to fill in his March Madness brackets.

That's three. Read 'em and weep.

 

I don't doubt that he's a good father to his children.

 

I used to vote who I agreed with the most. Now I would vote for anyone who shows any signs of being independent of the power elite and honest regardless if I agree or disagree with them.

 

He hasn't been caught with an intern & his wife's lover hasn't turned up dead!

 

HM... check, Coin... check, David.....(oy)....check... but half of that is for being funny.

Thank you.

 

Who on the forum would care to name a single President in the past shall we say 50 years who has not recieved large donations from someone and then that someones company recieved a contract? Now this is simply for David what proof of corruption do you have relating to President Obama? I do not wish to hear guilt by association just simple facts that can be veryfied that President Obama is Corrupt
The taking of a donation is not proof of corruption David or all politicians would be guilty of it, nor is knowing another who is corrupt proof that one is themselfs corrupt
How many here know of a person who has commited a crime? does that in turn make you a criminal?