Which candidate do you side with?

More opinions from those who matter not. Unsurprising!

 

I'm not any kind of "ist" that I care to be associated with. All of these labels mean entirely different things to those using the labels as pejoratives and those using them as self-defining political monikers. So even if you say you are some type of “ist”, the other side simply hears what they want to hear and you end up reinforcing their idiotic beliefs. Sure I have plenty of beliefs but who needs a dumbass label.

 

So what's the difference between a regular Socialist and a "National Socialist"? Regular Socialists hate government? You're unusually clueless this morning even for you.

 

I've asked him in past posts for his definition of what a Socialist is and he has admitted that he really doesn't know and can't define it but he knows it when he sees it. He fits in with the party that isn't going to be told what to do by fact checkers. Facts have little to do with ideologically based narratives. They are right because they are right and that is all you need to know.

 

All lies.

 

The difference between regular Socialists and National Socialists is that while both want extremely strong governmental control even to the detriment of the freedom of the populace, National Socialists like to kill Jews while they're at it.

 

He doesn't have the courage to admit it publically!

 

Read lil joe moen's post....that's a "dumbass label"

 

I rest my case. This is one of those times when Twain was absolutely right about shutting up.

 

So you do want to kill the Jews also?

 

If asked, I typically label myself as having strong Libertarian leanings because that is certainly true. But, from the mix of percentages I got in this exercise, it is a little more mixed than just that. But that doesn't mean I think that labels are "meaningless". Some people absolutely fit simpler, ready made 'labels'...whether they like it or not.

There was a time in my life when I would have asbsolutely scored much differently on something like this than I do today. Probably 98% Republican and everything else less than a third of that. I certainly could have simply been labeled a Republican or Right Winger. And it would have been true...whether I would have liked it or not.

 

I see. And you say that you consider me more of a National Socialist. Which by your own definition would make me someone who likes to kill Jews. You are the most amazing freak I think I've ever come across. And that's counting David.

 

I don't think ALL National Socialists advocated killing Jews, so you can put yourself into that sub-category if you'd like. One would be hard pressed to find another ideology within the last century that advocated as much governmental control as the National Socialists. Well, other than the modern Democratic Party perhaps.

 

But... You said that the feature that distinguished "Socialists" from "National Socialists" was that the latter "liked" not just advocated, but liked, killing Jews. You also specifically said that the authoritarianism is shared. If authoritarianism is characteristic of both then it can not be a distinguishing feature of either if you are comparing the two. So we are left with Jew killing. And you said that you considered me a National Socialist, i.e. in your mind one who liked killing Jews.

So based on your own words this is what you think of me. Just wanted to clarify this. And it's fine. I find what people like you think more curious that offensive. And it's only right to cut some slack to the senile, the harmlessly looney and the very young. I imagine you fall into at least one of those categories.

 

Well it's possible that Joe and I disagree. Hard as that might be for a zombie like you to grasp. It's also possible that he was referring to the way you call everyone who doesn't agree with you a Socialist. In which case he is right. As it is used indiscriminately by a dumb ass RWers, it is a dumb ass label.

 

That's where you and I diverge. I don't find you personally offensive (or even curious, for that matter) because I don't know you on a personal level. However, on a philosophical level I find your political ideals to be very offensive. Socialism is anathema to me. You're an admitted Socialist. I believe liberal, left-wing Socialistic ideals are destroying the foundations of America and incrementally nibbling away at the freedoms we currently enjoy. Big Socialist-type government does not equal more freedom. Even bigger Socialist-type government (e.g., the totalitarian, dictatorial government of the National Socialists) equal even less freedom. Less freedom means that government can run amok as witnessed with the wanton act of murder of millions of Jews. Many current Democrat politicians in America, including our president, would like to see more of a socialist-type government implemented via executive fiat, executive order, reconciliation, bribery, back room deals and other tactics used to get what they, and only they, want. That leads to too much power and, possibly, absolute power. The old saw is that absolute power corrupts absolutely (again, as witnessed with the National Socialists). Now, the National Socialists didn't begin by killing Jews, it was a natural progression of their ultimate power mixed with personal hatred, patriotism, national identity, etc. But, it certainly progressed to killing Jews. Now, I see Democrats today following the path to Socialism which, God forbid, leads to absolute power, they will then have the ability to dictate everything (see the NDAA, for an example). Perhaps your tangential path to Socialism may be different than the one followed by the National Socialists, but "big government" is still the lynchpin. But, you "big government" ideals are not what will save America. Quite the opposite in fact. The irony of America is that it allows anyone to adhere to any particular political ideology, even one that could ultimately destroy America. Let's hope you don't follow that path. You might wind up killing Jews and liking it.

 

lil joe moen labeled your earlier post "dumbass"....I will give this post the same label.

 

(looks at "Socialist!" label)...Yeah but, you really need to make sure the label is accurate...(opens lid, peers inside)...Yep, just like I figured...I see a few migrant workers, ...a Chevy Impala, ....and (Hello!) a scantily-clad lass with a bottle of Tequila! (Opens lid, begins to climb inside, stops for parting words)...could you shut the lid for me, please? Thanks.

(stops again)...Oh, and this probably should be labelled as "Misc." ...(shuts lid)

 

Like when I look in the mirror...yep, still a white boy.

Truthfully, though, I think people tend to more easily label others than see or acknowledge the labels that apply to themselves.

 

Well I don't think I'll attempt to add anything to the above. It's pretty amazing and I think beyond my power to address. But I do promise to be vigilant regarding the emergence of any urges to kill Jews. I sure it's one of those things that at first you think you can take or leave alone but before you know it, it's gotten a grip on you.