More reason for concern as BO's "Summer of Recovery" grinds to a halt: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38590170/ns/business-eye_on_the_economy/?GT1=43001 Let's face it folks, BO's big government power grab just isn't working. The very people he is supposed to be fooling...errr...I mean convincing aren't taking the bait & just aren't confident in the schemes BO has concocted. The libs can continue their disdain for business & for the wealthy (the wealthy who aren't libs) but until confidence is restored in the people creating jobs we are just going to drift aimlessly.
Hmm, I'm finding myself strangely tempted to agree with you here David, I may have to reinforce the tinfoil on my helmet so those beams from the mothership aren't' getting into my thoughts.... But, yea there is a crisis of confidence most definitely, but I wouldn't say it starts and stops at Obama's door. There's a crisis of confidence in the economy. There's a crisis of confidence in our government at all levels. There's a crisis of confidence in our corporate leaders. There's a crisis of confidence in our military leaders. Dunno what it takes to get this country to the boiling point, seems that these days the people pretty much just roll over and take it whatever the costs.
Maybe when you get to your boiling point & get tired of "rolling over" you'll begin to see the absurdity in which we have been immersed. Then, perhaps, some hapless, clueless moron will take "mothership" & "tinfoil" digs at you. Remember, those of us who saw BO for what what he was (and actually turned out to be) back in '08 were called paranoid.
They will hit the boiling point just as soon as you take their Lindsy news, Mel news, People magazine, and that genre away from them.
Actualy David those of us who said that we would never vote for him but were willing to give the man a chance when he had been elected by a Majority of the US voters were called Obama Worshipers and brain washed I can say that over here there are signs of economic recovery including in those banks that were bailed out by the goverment (Aqll showing healthy profits for the 1st time in a few years) but there again our opposition parties did not spend all there time trying to derail the goverment of the day when the crisis realy hit home. That is a big difference
I guess that would be similar to the feeling that the majority of America thought of the last republican prez that saw him for what he actually was...a criminal.
Since when do you care what the majority believes? The majority would think you're a nut job for chasing that 9/11 wind mill (are you still outrunning the Men in Black) or for calling yourself a Libertarian (remember that one?) or for advocating the elimination of our Free Market (what would you replace it with again? Oh, still can't answer?). The majority opposes BO's agenda and believes he is ruining our country.
Did you conduct your own poll or did you just assume that your opinion is that of the majority. For the record, your opinion is that of the lunatic fringe, not the majority.
I think that's a good point. I'm sure our economy would be doing better if the Republicans weren't actively trying to screw things up just to make Obama look bad.
Why is it that Democrats can't recognize that they are equally as disruptive and anti-administration when there is a Republican president in office. In addition, Democrats have the luxury of having the liberal media on their side. For instance, you barely hear about the steadily increasing casualty rate in Afghanistan over the last year. If this was a Republican administration, the first thing on every national news report would be an update the death count in the war. That reason is complete bunk. Last time I checked, our current Democratic president has a Democrat controlled Congress in both House and Senate. If people think he has been ineffective in his first two years, just wait for November when the Republicans take back the House. After that, Obama's approval rating might reach the same depths as W's.
So says Sparky...For the record...who died and left you boss? What would you call the majority? Spooky and Sparky? That about it? You and him are arm in arm but I didn't realize that constituted a majority....even for this forum. Lunatic fringe as defined by an alcohol soaked brain rather.
I know it is hard to remember what happened yesterday in the circus so I have quoted what you wrote. You said the majority of America thinks George Bush was a criminal. It has nothing to do with me being the boss, you being a clown, or DeOrc being unfair. You made the statement, it is in black and white. My question was did you conduct your own poll? I have never seen a poll that showed that the majority of Americans think George Bush was a criminal. In fact, you are the only person I have ever encountered who has made such a claim, hence the lunatic fringe comment. If you had said that the majority of Americans thought W was a bad President, I would have been in full agreement. But you didn't. You made a moronic statement (nothing unusual), got called out by me, and then acted like a little kid throwing a temper tantrum. So now that you have been beat down again, I wonder what is coming next. My prediction is that I will never see the post because DeOrc will have to edit your clownspeak.
Bad President, criminal, murderer...what's the difference? The man's a lying, crime ridden, republican. Apples and oranges. The majority thinks exactly that.
If you print that out and keep it, I am quite sure you will never have to serve on a jury in your life.
I have to say that your political parties do seem (regardless of who is in office) to have a uncany ability to disagree with each other and it seems they dont care what it costs your country in the process as long as they can say to the voters "LOOK AT ME I STOOD AGAINST Insert your own bill of choice" LOL and I use to think that British Mp's were bad and party 1st yet we allways seem to get a concensus when it realy matters (in recent years)
Not only does it happen, it is what was intended to happen. On forums such as this, most of the members represent one extreme or the other. Tom & Moen are as anti-Republican as I have ever seen and David seems equally as anti-Democrat. You don't see many centrist posting on this forum becuase for the most part, they are no enraged by the policies of either side because they are in the middle. Our system of government was designed to create conflict between the opposing ideologies which would ensure that nothing radical (left or right) ever gets passed. The end result of most legislation is a watered down version of the original plan that appeals to majority of Americans who fall in the middle no matter what their political affiliation. And while the radicals on both sides constantly cry foul, America is kept safe from itself and the radicals who seem to always speak the loudest and longest.
Well, just one point of clarification here...I do not, I repeat, do not have a problem with someone merely because they are a democrat. My issue is with liberals. Liberals know, deep down, that the policies they espouse have been histoically unsuccessful and they are bad for the country- they are only interested in their own selfish agendas.
Excellent points made here guys and it only reafirms my belief that there should be MORE than TWO parties running this country. Unfortunately money plays such a huge part in getting in.