We're our own worst enemy

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bonedigger, Nov 25, 2005.

  1. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger Another Wandering Celt

    Yesterday two liquor stores were trashed in Oakland, Ca. The criminals who destroyed this private property reportedly shouted "Muslim's shouldn't be selling liquor to Black Muslims." What's so significant in that you ask? Nothing much except the all too coincidental knee-jerk announcement by "The Nation Of Islam, yep Louis Farrakhan's outfit" that they had NOTHING to do with it and cleared all their members of any wrongdoing. Personally, I'd leave that up to the police, but that's just me.

    There are cracks in our nations armor, the enemy it appears is within and dividing us as a nation. Rest assured ALLAH is behind a great deal of it...

    Bone
     
  2. Steve E

    Steve E New Member

    Naw. Muslims would NEVER do anything to stir up trouble.:)
     
  3. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger Another Wandering Celt

    Where is the Duke when you need him? Osama would be one less problem I reckon, PILGRIM, LMAO
     
  4. quick dog

    quick dog New Member

    That kind of stuff happens in Los Angeles and Oakland all the time. These guys just happened to be wearing penguin costumes. I would not be surprised if the store owners were actually Hindus or Sikhs? You know how these things get confusing. :vanish:
     
  5. Danr

    Danr New Member

    I may be wrong here but I am pretty sure John Wayne was a draft dodger. I think the real hero was Jimmy Stewart. I am sure you will correct me if I am wrong.
     
  6. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    So you know about Jimmy Stewart.
     
  7. quick dog

    quick dog New Member

    Lee Majors and a few others were real.
     
  8. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    You can bet your sweet pea-tuty we will! It would be so simple for you to look these things up before spouting off and showing your true colors.

    The closest Wayne ever came to military action was a three-month entertainment tour of Pacific bases that he went on in 1944. His childhood dream--to become a naval officer--was never realized, although he did come close to receiving an appointment to Annapolis. Later, during World War II, he was rejected for military service. He was never a cowboy, either.

    A world of diffference between "draft dodger" and being "rejected".
     
  9. rambozo

    rambozo New Member

    ouch but which one is worst?? :pencil:
     
  10. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger Another Wandering Celt

    Does it matter if he served or not?
     
  11. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Not if you are well connected
     
  12. OldDan

    OldDan New Member

    When there is a call to arms by your country and you:
    1) even though missing the fingers on your right hand, offer to go and fight. They reject you on the grounds of not being able to defend yourself on the battle field. or:
    2) receive a call from your draft board and the first thing you do is buy a ticket on the midnight special to Canada. Never report and don't return to this country until the Democrats are in the White House.

    You be the judge.. which one is worse?
     
  13. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Not really to me but a lot of people around here are into that sort of thing. The truth is that the people I know who were in the thick of it see no glory in war at all, they think war is stupid. Most people who are into the war thing were never in the thick of it. I think it is ironic though that people hold up JW as a hero because of his roles and look at a guy like jimmy Stewart as wimpy again because of his roles.
     
  14. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger Another Wandering Celt

    I think he was a hero. He epitomized all that was American, what it stood for. Everything that was Good, Hardworking, and Honest in my eyes as well as many other boys of that time. As a kid when his westerns came out we pined and pleaded with out folks to drive 40 miles to Crockett, Tx on a Saturday afternoon so we could see a matinee with him, Rooster Cogburn, etc. Wonderful memories. Yes, he was a hero to many boys and still is to many men. One of my favorites was "The Cowboys." The night he died I was in a Country Club/Dance Hall in Huntsville Texas (19yrs old) and they announced he'd passed. They played the ballad of the Green Berets and I danced with the only gal in the whole place. The waitress, LOL.

    Now this fellow??? -- Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base
     
  15. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger Another Wandering Celt

    War, hahaha, during my first four years in the Air Force my thoughts and plans were to do my time and punch out, but after a while I realized that the country was/is in grave danger and war is an UGLY byproduct of it. Here is a odd fact. When I went in in 1982 I worked on Ground Launched Cruise and Minute Man II Missiles, yes the Nukes in the silos and up until the time they were removed with the SALT 1 and SALT 2 (Ronald Reagan 1991ish) treaties there was no war the US was involved in. Now without this deterrent just look at us.

    War is an evil, a necessary evil I'm afraid. This world is a dangerous place...
     
  16. Steve E

    Steve E New Member

    Both were heroes in most Americans eyes.
     
  17. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

     
  18. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger Another Wandering Celt

     
  19. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    I know that movie well. But who was really braver in that movie. The character played by John Wayne who was good with a gun but stayed out of everything for the most part or the character played by Jimmy Stewart who knew nothing of guns but was willing to put his life on the line to make a difference.

    By the way my favorite movie of Wayne's was his last, "The Shootest" which also had his friend Jimmy Stewart in it as the doctor. If I remember correctly.

    That movie showed guts on Wayne's part in many ways.
     

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