Voting fraud & ID's revisited

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/295431/why-we-need-voter-id-laws-now-john-fund

Wonder if Holder still feels the same way?

 

HAHAHA.... That's hilarious and certainly demonstrates why Voter ID laws should be implemented.

 

Doesn't seem like the leftists have come up with a response to this yet, have they? As soon as Rachel Maddow can come up with an excuse I'm sure moen will cut & paste it here.

 

If he doesn't quote one of the LW talking heads, he'll just say something like, "The polling place was Breitbarted" or some other such nonsense.

 

A better title for this thread might be "Why republicans are intent on making it legal for themselves to tweak voting laws, so that thay can win elections they otherwise wouldn't have."

It's more relevant.

 

Voting laws need a bit of tweaking from time to time in order to keep fraud from ocurring. Republicans and democrats have equal legal footing in the process so what's your point?

 

You do realize that the supreme court has blessed requiring ID's to be used, don't you? And it was not even a 5-4 vote!

 

As expected, both David and rlm failed to see the point. Coin must be in the bathroom or something.

But what the hell, just for fun I'll make it even more clear, not that I expect David, rlm, or coin to see it that way though.... them being right-wing extremists an' all.

The reason the republican party is intent to make it a law that photo IDs be required to vote is so that less democrats will vote in the elections that follow after the law takes effect, which improves the chances that republicans, and republican supported propositions, will win or pass. This is particularly true, and is a particularily despicable and corrupt sign of the decay of America's voting system, in states where the ratio of republican and democratic voters is nearly the same.

Ok you three, you can take your hands off your ears and open your eyes... Hey!... HEY!!!... (Throws a shoe at 'em, to get their attention, and also just to throw a shoe at 'em)... you can blah, blah, blah all you want now... it's safe. You won't hear or see anything else from me that you'd want to ignore... except for...

...Rrrrrrrrooooooommmmmmnnnnneeeeyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!

 

So, at the core of your argument, democrats are less capable (or less willing?) of following the simple, common-sense rules that apply to voting? Or are they just too stupid to find their way to the registration office? That's sounds a bit insulting to me.

 

Duck and weave David... duck and weave. You look at my comment and come to conclusions that lay in the realm of the unreal... again. In your fantasy only would any of your comments above be considered true, with the exception of the last sentence, which may be your subconscious telling you that you are being ridiculous and insulting where you shouldn't be... but that's just a guess.

Reality: republicans are legally corrupting the voting system.
But David sees: pink elephants

 

So now it is your turn. Why and how does requiring an ID discriminate against the Democrats?

 

In this day & age who wouldn't have an ID?

 

You know why. Also, since I have already explained how in previous threads, I will not do so here. The information is easy to find however, at least to those willing to type a few words into a search box. Sites like wikipedia have semi-decent articles, and are a good start for a basic understanding of the argument for and against the IDs as well as related issues:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disfranchisement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_disenfranchisement

 

So you have no opinion of your own?

BTW, I found this most interesting in your reference;

 

No offense, but your reference to a previous comment I made in another thread ...where I suggested that you didn't have an official opinion on the Martin/Zimmerman case ...is like saying "I know you are, but what am I?" But, the difference here is that I did state an opinion there and you didn't, and that I actually have posted my opinion on photo IDs, and you know that.

There is a similar thread on this site about the debate on voter ID laws, and I posted my opinions there. I have simply chosen not to "repost" my opinions here on this "rethread". You know this is true, so why the poor attempt to mislead people to believe otherwise? Habit?

Voter fraud is what republicans are saying is happening without these Photo ID laws. Republicans are saying we need those laws to prevent voter fraud. What you quoted does not support the republican position... it supports mine lol

..."little polling place fraud"... supports the opponents to photo ID laws, and not the republicans. So I'm fine with your choice of quote, and I can honestly say I agree with you on that point.

 

You need to read that quote again. However, the main point I was making was that the opinions are mostly political. One side is based on research (among experts, "there is widespread but not unanimous agreement that there is little polling place fraud". The report was based on research conducted by a Republican elections lawyer and another expert with liberal leanings.) But the when the Democrats took over, "The final version released to the public, however, stated that there was "a great deal of debate on the pervasiveness of fraud."

Yep! The final version supports you position - despite the facts.

 

Was there ever a question of that? No need to answer lol

Ahhhh... the "republicans-had-it-under-control-until-democrats-became-involved" defense... used only by republicans. That's definitely not a one-sided argument, now is it? That was satire by the way.

The truth is: voter fraud is not as big of an issue as republicans make it out to be. The truth is: republicans want photo ID laws passed since the laws will result in a net-benefit for their party. The truth is: republicans are corrupting the voting system.

 

Truth is, you cannot support a word there. Remember, the fraud was based on expert opinion and was researched. The lack of fraud was based on someone fear at best.

 

I really have to highlight part of your comment:

Not picking at the structure here but it's odd. I may be mistaking it for something else. If you are saying "The lack of fraud was based on someone's fear", are you suggesting that someone was afraid that there was not enough evidence of fraud? Or what? If that's correct, I'd agree... if you were referring to how republican politician's fear that the lack of proof of voter fraud is an issue for them.

 

I wanted to address this separately:

Untrue. There is ample evidence that shows voter fraud is an extremely rare occurance and I have posted some of that in another thread. There is also ample evidence that republicans are corrupting the system by pushing for unnecessary laws that benefit their party, and I've posted some of that evidence as well.

The truth is: you are republican, or at the very least a republican supporter. As such, you are less capable of seeing the truth here on this issue. Worse, you support the party without question and, in effect, willfully ignore the truth.