U.S. Diplomats Killed in Libya

Obama hadn't attended an Intel Meeting since Sept. 5. Why not? Perhaps he should have attended especially considering there's information coming out now that the State Department had 48 hours notice of an imminent attack. It's still too early to know all the details, but it's beginning to look like the State Department knew about these attacks beforehand. Should that be proven, the blood on Obama's (and Hillary's) hands will never come off.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/rep...-to-libya-consulate-attack-but-failed-to-act/

 

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Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Obama, it's time to wake up and smell the global jihad​

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When the men who killed our ambassador to Libya were in the final stages of their preparation, Hillary Clinton was in the Cook Islands, being regaled by locals in traditional dress. Her seemingly endless world tour has prioritized symbolism and pageantry over substance. So too has the administration of her boss, Barack Obama, and the costs are now becoming clear.​

This explains why Obama’s chief diplomat said of the Libya attack: “I asked myself—how could this happen? How could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction?”​

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Madam secretary, it is time for you and your boss to wake up and smell the global jihad. ​

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There are people in this world—and not a small number of them—who share the vision bin Laden had and have the will and means to act. No amount of apologizing for America, embracing our adversaries or mistreating our allies will change that. ​

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It is worth recalling that Cairo, the city where a mob entered the US embassy compound and burned an American flag, was the epicenter of what critics call Obama’s “apology tour.” It was there that he apologized for critical steps American officials took in the Middle East to defend against the Soviets eight years before Obama was born. It was there that he criticized his own nation’s response to 9/11.​

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That was the reason US diplomats in Cairo instinctively put out an apologetic condemnation of those who “hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.” They were simply channeling the Obama view of the world.​

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Hillary also said that the attack was the result of a “small and savage group.” ​

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Wrong again. ​

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Viewed correctly, the attack was perpetrated by a very large group. Terrorism as we have known it since 9/11 is but the violent vanguard of the Islamist political ideology. This ideology unifies diverse terrorists from Jemmah Islamiyah in Indonesia to Al-Shabaab in Somalia to Boko Haram in Nigeria to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt to the Haqqani network in Afghanistan and Pakistan.​

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While the groups are diverse and at times antagonistic toward each other, their hatred of America unites them, and they work toward a generally common goal. Behind them is a large body of people who cheer on and support Islamists—a minority of Muslims, but hardly a body of people we should ignore.​

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The American people have instinctively understood this threat since Islamists took over Iran and took our diplomats hostage there in 1979. Our political class never has never understood this.​

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Instead, our foreign policy establishment, led by presidents of both parties, has spoken of “violent extremists” as if they had no common thread or clear ideological motivation. More recently, President Obama has thumped his chest about killing Al Qaeda’s founder and implied that Al Qaeda is our only real enemy. This is convenient and politically correct—but it is wrong.​

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If we killed everyone in Al Qaeda tomorrow, we would still have a problem that Obama, Hillary and the Washington foreign policy establishment refuse to recognize. There is a tyrannical political force in the world that is waging war on us wherever it can—both politically and militarily.​

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On Obama’s watch, the Islamists have done very well. They have taken over Egypt and are set to take over Syria and its chemical weapons arsenal without a change in US policy. They look ahead to the day U.S. forces leave Afghanistan—which Obama has conveniently announced to them. And in the country where modern Islamism first came to life at the nation-state level, Iran, the government is set to gain a nuclear weapons capability—another Obama legacy.​

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Hillary ought to park the plane and understand that diplomacy—or more accurately statecraft—ought to be about recognizing and fighting these problems. Pageantry, apologies and photo ops are obviously not getting it done.​

Christian Whiton was a State Department senior adviser from 2003-2009. He is principal at DC International Advisory. Follow him on Twitter @ChristianWhiton.​

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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/13/mrs-clinton-and-mr-obama-it-time-to-wake-up-and-smell-global-jihad/#ixzz26UIFc2J0​

 

November 21, 2007 Sen.Obama says he is uniquely qualified to bring stability to America's relationships in the Muslim world.

October 9, 2009 The 2009 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to U.S. PresidentObama"for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples", citing Obama's a "new climate" in international relations fostered by Obama, especially in reaching out to the Muslim world.

September 21, 2011 Obama addresses United Nations: “This year has been a time of extraordinary transformation. More nations have stepped forward to maintain international peace and security. And more individuals are claiming their universal right to live in freedom and dignity.One year ago, Egypt had known one President for nearly 30 years. But for 18 days, the eyes of the world were glued to Tahrir Square, where Egyptians from all walks of life — men and women, young and old, Muslim and Christian — demanded their universal rights. We saw in those protesters the moral force of non-violence that has lit the world …. and we knew that change had come to Egypt and to the Arab world.In the months that followed, the will of the coalition proved unbreakable, and the will of the Libyan people could not be denied. Forty-two years of tyranny was ended in six months. From Tripoli to Misurata to Benghazi — today, Libya is free. Yesterday, the leaders of a new Libya took their rightful place beside us, and this week, the United States is reopening our embassy in Tripoli.”

September 8th, 2012 AP headline was: "Terror Takes Backseat; Americans Safer Now."

September 11, 2012 Cairo, Egypt. Muslims storm United States Embassy burn embassy and American flag and raise Al-quida flag.

September 11, 2012 Benghazi, Libya preplanned attack on safehouse kills United States Ambassador Stevens and two former navy seals and one other American.

September 14, 2012 Anti-American protest spread to over 20 countries

September 14,2012 An energized President Obama smiling at fundraiser: "In August, we finally outraised Mitt Romney and the Republicans. Don't let it be the last time."

 

OK, someone is lying. The Obama administration previously stated there was no "actionable intelligence" leading up to the attack on the Libyan consulate in Benghazi. However, we now know that's not true. The President or, at least, the Secretary of State should have immediately ordered additional security at our consulate after the first attack on June 6th. But, that was never accomplished. Someone is not only lying, but it appears that ineptitude has cost the lives of four Americans.

1. On June 6, an IED was thrown at the perimeter of the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi. ​

2. On June 11, the British ambassador's motorcade came under attack by a rocket-propelled grenade, or RPG. Two security personnel were injured. ​

3. On June 18, armed gunmen attacked the Tunisian consulate and burned its flag. ​

4. On Aug. 5, five weeks before the assault on the U.S. Consulate, the International Committee of the Red Cross building in Benghazi was also struck by RPGs. ​

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...d-repeatedly-in-benghazi-in-run-up-to-deadly/​

 

A business man in my area, a true-believer in the gospel of the right wing, asked a question recently, in a most serious way:

Another person in my area truly believes God created the universe 5,000 years ago or so (she was more specific, but she is also insane...so I generalize here). I can tolerate such insanity from people since they cause no real harm. The people who kill, because they believe their religion is being represented in a way they do not believe in?...That is something I refuse to tolerate.

 

Whether it is an Muslim turned Atheist Author or a bunch of Cartoonists or a Jew or a Christian...it doesn't seem to matter much. It seems disgustingly easy for these extremist Muslims to turn into active (usually mass) murderers.

 

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Libyan President el-Megarif reportedly eyes Al Qaeda in 'preplanned' attack on US consulate​

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Libyan President Mohammed el-Megarif said he believes Al Qaeda is responsible for the deadly attack at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi that killed four Americans and said roughly 50 people have arrested in connection with the violence, according to two broadcast interviews Sunday.​

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Megarif, president of the Libyan National Congress, also reportedly differed with the Obama administration’s position that the attacks Tuesday were sparked by an anti-Islamic video on the Internet.​

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In an interview with NPR, Megarif said foreigners have been infiltrating his country over the past few months, which has been undergoing major changes since the uprising against the late dictator Muammar al-Qaddafi. ​

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Megarif says the attackers, who he believes are connected to Al Qaeda, used the protests at the consulate as a cover to attack the U.S. Consulate on the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.​

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"We firmly believe that this was a precalculated, preplanned attack that was carried out specifically to attack the U.S. Consulate," Megarif told NPR.​

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U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other U.S. staffers were killed in the attacks.​

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"Our friend and friend of all Libyans and all residents of Benghazi and we feel very, very, very," deep sadness, Megarif told NPR.​

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Megarif said in a separate interview with CBS News that Libyan authorities have arrested about 50 people in connection with the attack.​

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The Americans were killed when attackers fired on the U.S. consulate with rocket-propelled grenades and set it on fire.​

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Megarif said on CBS’ “Face the Nation” that "a few" of those who joined in the attack were foreigners, who had entered Libya "from different directions, some of them definitely from Mali and Algeria."​

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"The others are affiliates and maybe sympathizers," he added in the CBS interview.​

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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/16/libyan-president-megaryef-al-qaeda-behind-deadly-attack-on-us-consulate/#ixzz26ePqMYy7​

 

That's funny, but I will swear I heard Carney, Clinton, and Obama it was just because of that film. Somebody must be mistaken.

 

Yes, I wonder just who it is?

 

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McCain, Rogers: Obama’s policy of 'disengagement' led to attack on U.S. posts​

Capitol Hill Republican leaders said Sunday the Obama administration’s foreign policy of “disengagement” in the Middle East led to the attacks on U.S. posts in the region.​

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Michigan Rep. Mike Rogers and Arizona Sen. John McCain, the ranking Republican on the Senate Committee on Armed Services, suggested President Obama pulling troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq, while offering less than total support for Israel’s effort to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, has left an exploitable void in the region.​

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“The Middle East believes there is a disengagement policy with the U.S.,” Rogers, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said on “Fox News Sunday."​

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He argued Obama has made no significant foreign policy speech since the one in Cairo, Egypt, in 2009 and acknowledged the region poses “difficult” problems -- including the absence of stabilized, democratic governments to replace the recently deposed dictatorships.​

“But you cannot solve (the problems) by stepping back,” Rogers said. “It has to be a combination of showing strength and showing up.”​

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He also questioned why the United States appears to be in an “open fight” with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu about how far the country will go to help stop Iran from achieving nuclear capability.​

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“Shouldn't we be telling Iranians that there are lines they can't cross?” he asked.​

The campaign for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said the administration faced serious questions Sunday about its record of leadership in the world.​

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Campaign spokesman Ryan Williams said those questions include concerns about "America’s waning influence abroad, and the failure of its outreach efforts in the Middle East and North Africa."​

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McCain said he had "no doubt" the attacks last week on roughly 20 U.S. Middle East posts -- including the fatal one Libya -- were the result of America's shift in foreign policy to one of "disengagement."​

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"Prior to 9/11, we had a policy of containment,” McCain said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” “Then after 9/11, it was a confrontation with the terrorists and Al Qaeda. Now it's disengagement. We're leaving Iraq. We're leaving Afghanistan. We're leaving the area. The people in the area are having to adjust. And they believe the United States is weak, and they are taking appropriate action."​

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McCain argued members of the Obama administration and others who right now think the attacks were sparked by an anti-Muslim video on the Internet are “ignoring the facts.”​

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"Most people don't bring rocket-propelled grenades and heavy weapons to a demonstration,” he said. “That was an act of terror. And for anyone to disagree with that fundamental fact, I think, is really ignoring the facts. … And they used pretty good tactics: indirect fire, direct fire, and obviously they were successful."​

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McCain said the real underlying cause is the struggle within the Arab world between the Islamists and the forces of moderation.​

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“And they want America disengaged," he said.​

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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/16/mccain-rogers-obamas-policy-disengagement-led-to-attack-on-us-posts/#ixzz26fZquQWj​

 

http://www.partisanlines.com/thread...e-libya-all-over-again.3838/page-2#post-71937

Now, this is what former UN Ambassador John Bolton said on 09/14/12:

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"The administration's entire theory of the region is now seen to have broken down completely. Their belief was that the Arab spring would bring sweetness and light and democracy and provide an alternative to terrorism. In fact, the Arab spring has simply unleashed these radical forms of Islam that we see being demonstrated in the streets all over the region and manifested again in the terrorist assassination of our diplomats in Libya."​

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John Bolton is right on the money on this. If anyone thinks the Arab Spring was about democracy, he's an idiot. Obama's hands-off approach to the Middle East has led to the current violence in that region. Has that hands-off approach also led to the deaths of our diplomats at the Libyan consulate?​

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There was no and will be no Arab Spring, Summer or Fall. And, unless you want to stay there forever in active war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and eventually Iran, disengagement is the only logical choice. You aren't changing any of them and you will never kill them all. You will only breed more. Let them go back to killing themselves. We have enough problems without theirs.

 

That may be true, but we can't usher in an Arab Spring and hope for the best while simultaneously disengaging from the region. The area is too volatile and our current leadership has, in my opinion, failed to recognize that fact. Horrible consequences have been the result.

 

I am certainly no proponent of participating in any so-called Arab Spring, Summer, Fall or Winter so that's an easy choice for me. If they want seasons, let them get them themselves.

 

The other meme comes from former Bush speechwriter Marc Thiessen, who has, since the demise of the Bush administration, fashioned himself as a foreign policy expert and chief antagonist of Obama anti-terror policies. Coming after a long line of other specious, nakedly partisan and easily discredited accusations comes this: Obama has skipped almost half of his presidential daily intelligence briefings. Columnist Dana Milbank, who is employed by the same Washington Post that published Thiessen’s briefing nonsense, easily dispatched with this:

In reality, Obama didn’t “attend” these meetings, because there were no meetings to attend: The oral briefings had been mostly replaced by daily exchanges in which Obama reads the materials and poses written questions and comments to intelligence officials. This is how it was done in the Clinton administration, before Bush decided he would prefer to read less. Bush’s results — Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, and the failure to find Osama bin Laden — suggest this was not an obvious improvement.

Read more: http://www.partisanlines.com/threads/fox-news-spreads-new-obama-myths.4613/#ixzz26jxfXkzI


You people will be suckered by anything Fox News says. Too funny and too sad at the same time.

 

It might be time for Obama to start attending some scheduled briefings instead of merely scanning over the info on his iPad. I mean, really, this entire situation could have been avoided had there been no question whatsoever regarding his attendance at daily briefings.

 

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More conflicting reports.​

No demonstration before attack on US Consulate, source says​

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An intelligence source on the ground in Libya told Fox News that there was no demonstration outside the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi prior to last week's attack -- challenging the Obama administration's claims that the assault grew out of a "spontaneous" protest against an anti-Islam film. ​

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The intelligence source said no protests were happening before the attackers struck at about 9:35 p.m. local time last Tuesday. The account backs up claims by a purported Libyan security guard who told McClatchy Newspapers late last week that the area was quiet before the attack. ​

"There wasn't a single ant outside," the unnamed guard, who was being treated in a hospital, said in the interview. ​

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These details appear to conflict with accounts from the Obama administration that the attack spawned from an out-of-control protest. The Libyan president also said Sunday that the strike was planned in advance. ​

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But a senior Obama administration official told Fox News on Monday morning that the Libyan president's comments are not consistent with "the consensus view of the U.S. intelligence community," which has been investigating the incident, and are accordingly not credible. ​

"He doesn't have the information we have," the U.S. official said of Libyan President Mohammed el-Megarif. ""He doesn't have the (data) collection potential that we have." ​

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The Libyan leader told CBS News' "Face the Nation" on Sunday that the government in Tripoli harbors "no doubt" that the Sept. 11 attack that killed U.S. ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans was "preplanned, predetermined." That assessment conflicted directly with the preliminary conclusion offered on Sunday by U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, who appeared on all five Sunday morning talk shows. ​

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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/17/obama-administration-libyan-president-clash-over-explanation-on-consulate/#ixzz26kW85aKk​

 

Perhaps there was too many words in the above post for you to plow through. So let me boil it down for you.

In reality, Obama didn’t “attend” these meetings, because there were no meetings to attend: The oral briefings had been mostly replaced by daily exchanges in which Obama reads the materials and poses written questions and comments to intelligence officials...

Geesh!

 

How did that plan work for Obama? Maybe he should change the readings and responses with face to face communications. I can guarantee that it would be no worse in Egypt, Libya, Iran, Indonesia, Sudan, Nigeria, etc.

 

I don't get it. I thought BO was supposed to bring the world together? It seems more fractured now than ever...even domestically he has everyone fighting with each other. And what about that Nobel Peace prize? Premature maybe?