Told you so...

Alwayslost,

Midas made this comment for only a couple of individuals on the list who appear to be/are "ahem, Muslim Terror Apologists" certainly not you or I...

Ben

 

Pardon me, too much herb and bud.

 

Muslim Terrorist Apologist, Anyone that doesn't agree with Midas and his extreme narrow-minded views and hate speeches towards Muslims. Anyone who can't lump all Muslims into one group and mentally line them all up against the wall and shoot them. Anyone that can't see that the Quran is followed to the letter and all Muslims are just waiting to slit the throat of some infidel in their sleep. Anyone that doesn't go to a coin forum and rant and rave about "Muslim animals" behind the safety, security and anonymity of a computer screen. Anyone who dares to think for themselves without giving into fear and bigotry.

 

I see both sides of this coin...

 

You just can't make this up!

Meanwhile, the islamic cancer continues...

Gaza Christians warned to submit to Islam

Gaza-based Muslim groups affiliated with Hamas and possibly Al Qaeda have warned local Christians that Hamas' military conquest of the volatile coastal strip means they must now fully submit to Islamic ritual law.

In an interview with WorldNetDaily, Sheikh Abu Saqer, leader of the group Jihadia Salafiya, said that Gaza's Muslims “expect our Christian neighbors to understand the new Hamas rule means real changes. They must be ready for Islamic rule if they want to live in peace in Gaza.”

“Missionary activity” will no longer be tolerated, and those suspected of trying to covert local Muslims to Christianity will be “harshly punished,” said Abu Saqer. Additionally, the consumption of alcohol is now prohibited in Gaza, and all women must fully cover themselves in public.

In order to ensure compliance with these regulations, Abu Saqer announced the formation of a new “military wing” that will a close eye on the subjects of “Hamastan.”
Following last week's unprovoked assault on a Catholic church and school in Gaza City, most are unconvinced that even full submission to Gaza's new conservative Muslim overlords will afford any degree of peace and security to the area's tiny Christian population.

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More proof of "true" muslims in ACTION when muslims are in control!

Told ya so!

 

You know, I think that the eyes of the free world are beginning to see whats really been going on. There are fewer and fewer "Peace at any Price" Antiwar Evil American Imperialism types everyday in our country. Like I said before they are beginning to sing a new tune and have shed (and hidden) their pink tee-shirts. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:


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Of Course there are still a few around...

 

Are you guessing that the antiwar folks have decreased or are you just expressing your opinion as fact again?

 

What the pro-war at any cost crowd can't understand is that the more they talk and the more they do, the more people are convinced to withdraw from the Middle East. The Constitution only authorizes the federal government to defend the nation, not spread democracy [or even Christianity] by force to nations that reject it. Nothing that goes on in Gaza, Syria, Iran, etc. has any impact on American national security and can be watched carefully from a distance, but ignored.

 

^^^Not Pro-War (but you'd prefer it if everyone thought so) but Pro Defense, Pro National Defense is the stance many Military, Former Military, and Conservative Americans take.

PRO NATIONAL DEFENSE

 

It's important to be able to distinguish between defense and offense. The good news for the pro-war crowd is that it looks like war in the Middle East will expand to at least Iran, and possibly beyond before Bush leaves office. The pieces are in place and all that is necessary is a triggering event. Iran never attacked the US and is no threat to our national security. It doesn't seem to matter. Being pro-war in the Middle East is not conservative. It is neoconservative. People had better learn the difference before it is too late.

 

That's right...if your see your enemy cocking their gun (as in Iran's case, nukes), you don't sit back and take it...you let these muslim animals have it before they can lay destruction on your country.

After all, if you look at the history of this terrorist religion, do you really think these animals are simply going to go away and stop their jihad nonsense?

Islam IS what it IS...always have, always will be.

Don't believe me??...then take the word of muslim scholars like this one:

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In his book, "Jurisprudence in Muhammad’s Biography", the Azhar scholar, Dr. Muhammad Sa’id Ramadan al-Buti says the following (page 134, 7th edition):

"The Holy War, as it is known in Islamic Jurisprudence, is basically an offensive war. This is the duty of Muslims in every age when the needed military power becomes available to them. This is the phase in which the meaning of Holy War has taken its final form. Thus the apostle of God said: ‘I was commanded to fight the people until they believe in God and his message ..."’

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Dr. Buti deduces from Muhammad’s statement that this is the concept of offensive war—this is Holy War as it is known in islamic jurisprudence. Notice by his statement also that this matter is a duty incumbent on every muslim in every age. The time will come when East and West, as well as politicians and military personnel all over the world will realize that the real military danger is the Islamic community.

When the needed military power becomes available to Muslims, they will wage wars and invade other countries!

Told you so!

 

you really are full of hate, let me ask you this: do you advocate genocide against Islam?

 

Almost forgot this source...ANOTHER muslim scholar who tells islam for what IT IS!:

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"The Book of the Islamic State" by Taqiy al-Din al-Nabahan was published in 1953. It encapsulates the entire issue in simple, plain style and in explicitly few words. It will suffice to quote four self-explanatory paragraphs which need no comment because they are obvious.

On pages 112, 113, and 117, Taqiy al-Din says,

"The foreign policy of Islamic states must be to carry the Islamic mission to the world by way of holy war. This process has been established through the course of the ages from the time the apostle settled down until the end of the last Islamic state which was ruled by Islamic law.

This process has never been changed at all. The apostle Muhammad, from the time he founded the state in the city Yathrib, prepared an army and began holy war to remove the physical barriers which hinder the spread of Islam.

"He subdued the tribe of Quraysh as a body, along with other similar groups until Islam prevailed all over the Arabian peninsula. Then the Islamic state started to knock at the doors of other states to spread Islam. Whenever it found that the nature of the existing system in these states was a barrier which prevented the spread of the mission, they saw it as inevitable that the system be removed. So holy war continued as a means of spreading Islam. Thus by holy war, countries and regions were conquered. By holy war, kingdoms and states were removed and Islam ruled the nations and peoples.

"The glorious Qur’an has revealed to Muslims the reasons for fighting and the ordinance of holy war and it declares that it is to carry the message of Islam to the entire world. There are several verses which command the Muslims to fight for the cause of Islam. Therefore, carrying the Islamic mission is the basis on which the Islamic state was established, the Islamic army was founded, and holy war was ordained. All the conquests were achieved accordingly. Fulfilling the Islamic mission will restore the Islamic state to the Muslims."

Then he adds on pages 113, 114, and 115,

"If holy war is the established, unchangeable means of spreading Islam, then political activities become a necessity before initiating the fight. If we besiege the infidels, we would call them to embrace Islam first. If they accept Islam, they become part of the Islamic community, but if they reject Islam, they have to pay the poll-tax. If they pay it, they spare their blood and properties, but if they refuse to pay the poll-tax, then fighting them becomes lawful."

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Please note that these same words and principles are confirmed by all the muslim scholars who are well acquainted with the saying and deeds of the terrorist muhammad and his successors.

Told you so!

 

Midas, thank you for providing so much evidence and support for the cause of non-interventionism. Those are very good reasons for us to stay out of the region.

 

Unfortunately, this cancer is spreading itself here, in Africa, the Far East, England, France, and all points in between where these animals are using OUR freedoms to develop and shove down their islamic idealogy.

I suggest that moderate muslims (not muslim enough muslims) should spend more time trying to reach the "radical" uslims and convert them with the same zeal used to try and deflect blame onto other peoples and faiths.

I don't know how you'll do it with no authoritative hiearachy and with those kinds of hate passages in the koran...so good luck with that.

 

OMG I will laugh at that all day, ROTFLMAS good point CS

 

There you have it in a nutshell. The cancer that is spreading is here among us -- the people of the United States for whom war is more important than peace, winning is more important than national security, and hate is extreme. Now, the warmongering neoconservatives are even admitting that their goal of global hegemony cannot be achieved without replacing the limited representative government of the American Republic with an authoritarian state. These people are willing to see their nation and our political traditions that were fought for completely obliterated from the face of the earth so they can pursue their goal. These people are NOT patriots. They aren't even Americans. THEY are the real enemy of the American Repbulic, and not the Middle East.

 

It's interesting to note that for the first 3,100 years of recorded history, from 2,500 BC to 600 AD, there isn't a single documented case to be found anywhere in the world of Arabs leaving Arabia to conquer or plunder any country.

But then this terrorist religion called islam started and then muslims did what good muslims do...invade and plunder

Muslims mention these conquests and killings them with pride, and they are glad to explain and demonstrate how the islamic armies attacked (offensive) all the Persian lands and part of the Byzantine territories and occupied them.

They will tell you how these islamic terrorist armies took over Syria, Jordan, Palestine, Egypt, Iraq, Turkey, and, of course, Libya and all of Africa until the islamic army reached the borders of China and the regions of Iran.

Even Spain had fallen into their hands for hundreds of years. Muslims proceeded then toward France, but they were stopped in the battle of Tours at the hands of Charles Martel.

[Now, muslims are destroying France from within]

These islamic wars were offensive wars of the first degree.

Islam dominated these countries. So what has happened?

Nowadays, all muslim countries belong to the under-developed third world because that is the nature of "true" islam.

So...you really think these muslim animals are going to stop???



Their muslim history is clear, the koran is clear, and the nature of islam is clear...you need to learn from it

...told you so!

 

So let me get this straight, you do NOT like Muslims?
:mouth: :kewl: :goof: hya: :desk: :headbang: :whistle: :kewl: :mouth:

 

I agree 100% Cloudsweeper, the best offence is the best defense, at least in chess.