Thornton Wilder on Four Pages of Joyce

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  1. mimus

    mimus Guest

    "I am about to show that pages 404 through 407 [of James Joyce's
    _Finnegan's Wake_] are largely concerned with Giordano Bruno's trial and
    torture and with his death at the stake, which took place on 17 February
    1600 in the Campo dei Fiori at Rome. Interwoven with this material are at
    least five other themes: the seven colors of the spectrum; the entrance of
    Shaun the Post in the first act of Boucicault's play Arrah-na-Pogue; the
    composition of a pack of playing cards; some events of the last days of
    Christ's life, together with the liturgical offices which commemorate
    them; and the account of a barrel of Guinness stout rolling down the
    Liffey to Dublin Bay."

    < Thornton Wilder

    http://www.themodernword.com/joyce/joyce_paper_wilder.html


    <insert <reel>s as necessary>

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    mp 10

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    The hell with the Galactic Overlords
    and their tastes in literature.

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  2. On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:47:36 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >"I am about to show that pages 404 through 407 [of James Joyce's
    >_Finnegan's Wake_] are largely concerned with Giordano Bruno's trial and
    >torture and with his death at the stake, which took place on 17 February
    >1600 in the Campo dei Fiori at Rome. Interwoven with this material are at
    >least five other themes: the seven colors of the spectrum; the entrance of
    >Shaun the Post in the first act of Boucicault's play Arrah-na-Pogue; the
    >composition of a pack of playing cards; some events of the last days of
    >Christ's life, together with the liturgical offices which commemorate
    >them; and the account of a barrel of Guinness stout rolling down the
    >Liffey to Dublin Bay."
    >
    >< Thornton Wilder
    >
    >http://www.themodernword.com/joyce/joyce_paper_wilder.html
    >
    >
    ><insert <reel>s as necessary>


    hes stoned.

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  3. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:09:51 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:

    > On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:47:36 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>"I am about to show that pages 404 through 407 [of James Joyce's
    >>_Finnegan's Wake_] are largely concerned with Giordano Bruno's trial and
    >>torture and with his death at the stake, which took place on 17 February
    >>1600 in the Campo dei Fiori at Rome. Interwoven with this material are at
    >>least five other themes: the seven colors of the spectrum; the entrance of
    >>Shaun the Post in the first act of Boucicault's play Arrah-na-Pogue; the
    >>composition of a pack of playing cards; some events of the last days of
    >>Christ's life, together with the liturgical offices which commemorate
    >>them; and the account of a barrel of Guinness stout rolling down the
    >>Liffey to Dublin Bay."
    >>
    >>< Thornton Wilder
    >>
    >>http://www.themodernword.com/joyce/joyce_paper_wilder.html
    >>
    >>
    >><insert <reel>s as necessary>

    >
    > hes stoned.


    It was the Guinness that was the tipoff, wasn't it?

    --
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    smeeter 11 or maybe 12

    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    Nobody murders my drinking buddies but me.

    < Laumer
     
  4. On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:19:02 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:09:51 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:47:36 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>"I am about to show that pages 404 through 407 [of James Joyce's
    >>>_Finnegan's Wake_] are largely concerned with Giordano Bruno's trial and
    >>>torture and with his death at the stake, which took place on 17 February
    >>>1600 in the Campo dei Fiori at Rome. Interwoven with this material are at
    >>>least five other themes: the seven colors of the spectrum; the entrance of
    >>>Shaun the Post in the first act of Boucicault's play Arrah-na-Pogue; the
    >>>composition of a pack of playing cards; some events of the last days of
    >>>Christ's life, together with the liturgical offices which commemorate
    >>>them; and the account of a barrel of Guinness stout rolling down the
    >>>Liffey to Dublin Bay."
    >>>
    >>>< Thornton Wilder
    >>>
    >>>http://www.themodernword.com/joyce/joyce_paper_wilder.html
    >>>
    >>>
    >>><insert <reel>s as necessary>

    >>
    >> hes stoned.

    >
    >It was the Guinness that was the tipoff, wasn't it?


    indeed.

    --
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  5. Shirley

    Shirley Guest

    "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:0c-dnVqnpNOdrFLanZ2dnUVZ_rCtnZ2d@giganews.com...
    > "I am about to show that pages 404 through 407 [of James Joyce's
    > _Finnegan's Wake_] are largely concerned with Giordano Bruno's trial and
    > torture and with his death at the stake, which took place on 17 February
    > 1600 in the Campo dei Fiori at Rome. Interwoven with this material are at
    > least five other themes: the seven colors of the spectrum; the entrance of
    > Shaun the Post in the first act of Boucicault's play Arrah-na-Pogue; the
    > composition of a pack of playing cards; some events of the last days of
    > Christ's life, together with the liturgical offices which commemorate
    > them; and the account of a barrel of Guinness stout rolling down the
    > Liffey to Dublin Bay."
    >
    > < Thornton Wilder
    >
    > http://www.themodernword.com/joyce/joyce_paper_wilder.html
    >
    >
    > <insert <reel>s as necessary>


    I could not read this post without first administering a good dose of pain
    medicine.
    >
    > --
    > tinmimus99@hotmail.com
    >
    > smeeter 11 or maybe 12
    >
    > mp 10
    >
    > mhm 29x13
    >
    > The hell with the Galactic Overlords
    > and their tastes in literature.
    >
    > < _The Day of the Burning_
    >
     
  6. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

    dave hillstrom wrote:
    > On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:47:36 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>"I am about to show that pages 404 through 407 [of James Joyce's
    >>_Finnegan's Wake_] are largely concerned with Giordano Bruno's trial and
    >>torture and with his death at the stake, which took place on 17 February
    >>1600 in the Campo dei Fiori at Rome. Interwoven with this material are at
    >>least five other themes: the seven colors of the spectrum; the entrance of
    >>Shaun the Post in the first act of Boucicault's play Arrah-na-Pogue; the
    >>composition of a pack of playing cards; some events of the last days of
    >>Christ's life, together with the liturgical offices which commemorate
    >>them; and the account of a barrel of Guinness stout rolling down the
    >>Liffey to Dublin Bay."
    >>
    >>< Thornton Wilder
    >>
    >>http://www.themodernword.com/joyce/joyce_paper_wilder.html
    >>
    >><insert <reel>s as necessary>

    >
    > hes stoned.
    >

    He should be offered a posthumous membership in the flonk with psoting
    privileges in related froups.

    --
    nuts
     
  7. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:49:37 -0500, Shirley wrote:

    > "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:0c-dnVqnpNOdrFLanZ2dnUVZ_rCtnZ2d@giganews.com...
    >
    >> "I am about to show that pages 404 through 407 [of James Joyce's
    >> _Finnegan's Wake_] are largely concerned with Giordano Bruno's trial and
    >> torture and with his death at the stake, which took place on 17 February
    >> 1600 in the Campo dei Fiori at Rome. Interwoven with this material are at
    >> least five other themes: the seven colors of the spectrum; the entrance of
    >> Shaun the Post in the first act of Boucicault's play Arrah-na-Pogue; the
    >> composition of a pack of playing cards; some events of the last days of
    >> Christ's life, together with the liturgical offices which commemorate
    >> them; and the account of a barrel of Guinness stout rolling down the
    >> Liffey to Dublin Bay."
    >>
    >> < Thornton Wilder
    >>
    >> http://www.themodernword.com/joyce/joyce_paper_wilder.html
    >>
    >>
    >> <insert <reel>s as necessary>

    >
    > I could not read this post without first administering a good dose of pain
    > medicine.


    Really? it made me kind of numb anyway . . . .

    Well, call it "dazed".

    Did it again just now.

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    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    Let's get the hell out of here while we can still pass
    our Rorschasch tests.

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  8. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:56:54 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:

    > dave hillstrom wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:47:36 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> "I am about to show that pages 404 through 407 [of James Joyce's
    >>> _Finnegan's Wake_] are largely concerned with Giordano Bruno's trial
    >>> and torture and with his death at the stake, which took place on 17
    >>> February 1600 in the Campo dei Fiori at Rome. Interwoven with this
    >>> material are at least five other themes: the seven colors of the
    >>> spectrum; the entrance of Shaun the Post in the first act of
    >>> Boucicault's play Arrah-na-Pogue; the composition of a pack of playing
    >>> cards; some events of the last days of Christ's life, together with
    >>> the liturgical offices which commemorate them; and the account of a
    >>> barrel of Guinness stout rolling down the Liffey to Dublin Bay."
    >>>
    >>> < Thornton Wilder
    >>>
    >>> http://www.themodernword.com/joyce/joyce_paper_wilder.html
    >>>
    >>> <insert <reel>s as necessary>

    >>
    >> hes stoned.

    >
    > He should be offered a posthumous membership in the flonk with psoting
    > privileges in related froups.


    Should I repost my "Wildcaps" _FW_-quotes-post in memoriam?

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    tinmimus99@hotmail.com

    smeeter 11 or maybe 12

    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    "Ah*ooh*ah*ooh*ah*ooh*ah*ooh*ah."

    < _Shaun of the Dead_
     
  9. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

    mimus wrote:
    > On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:56:54 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >
    >>dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:47:36 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>"I am about to show that pages 404 through 407 [of James Joyce's
    >>>>_Finnegan's Wake_] are largely concerned with Giordano Bruno's trial
    >>>>and torture and with his death at the stake, which took place on 17
    >>>>February 1600 in the Campo dei Fiori at Rome. Interwoven with this
    >>>>material are at least five other themes: the seven colors of the
    >>>>spectrum; the entrance of Shaun the Post in the first act of
    >>>>Boucicault's play Arrah-na-Pogue; the composition of a pack of playing
    >>>>cards; some events of the last days of Christ's life, together with
    >>>>the liturgical offices which commemorate them; and the account of a
    >>>>barrel of Guinness stout rolling down the Liffey to Dublin Bay."
    >>>>
    >>>>< Thornton Wilder
    >>>>
    >>>>http://www.themodernword.com/joyce/joyce_paper_wilder.html
    >>>>
    >>>><insert <reel>s as necessary>
    >>>
    >>>hes stoned.

    >>
    >>He should be offered a posthumous membership in the flonk with psoting
    >>privileges in related froups.

    >
    > Should I repost my "Wildcaps" _FW_-quotes-post in memoriam?
    >

    Is this an earwig year?

    --
    nuts
     
  10. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:58:40 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:

    > mimus wrote:
    >
    >> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:56:54 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>
    >>> dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:47:36 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> "I am about to show that pages 404 through 407 [of James Joyce's
    >>>>> _Finnegan's Wake_] are largely concerned with Giordano Bruno's trial
    >>>>> and torture and with his death at the stake, which took place on 17
    >>>>> February 1600 in the Campo dei Fiori at Rome. Interwoven with this
    >>>>> material are at least five other themes: the seven colors of the
    >>>>> spectrum; the entrance of Shaun the Post in the first act of
    >>>>> Boucicault's play Arrah-na-Pogue; the composition of a pack of
    >>>>> playing cards; some events of the last days of Christ's life,
    >>>>> together with the liturgical offices which commemorate them; and the
    >>>>> account of a barrel of Guinness stout rolling down the Liffey to
    >>>>> Dublin Bay."
    >>>>>
    >>>>> < Thornton Wilder
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://www.themodernword.com/joyce/joyce_paper_wilder.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>> <insert <reel>s as necessary>
    >>>>
    >>>> hes stoned.
    >>>
    >>> He should be offered a posthumous membership in the flonk with psoting
    >>> privileges in related froups.

    >>
    >> Should I repost my "Wildcaps" _FW_-quotes-post in memoriam?

    >
    > Is this an earwig year?


    <tremble>

    What's that?

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    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    You want a job and a lizard to ride?

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  11. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

    mimus wrote:
    > On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:58:40 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >
    >>mimus wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:56:54 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:47:36 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>"I am about to show that pages 404 through 407 [of James Joyce's
    >>>>>>_Finnegan's Wake_] are largely concerned with Giordano Bruno's trial
    >>>>>>and torture and with his death at the stake, which took place on 17
    >>>>>>February 1600 in the Campo dei Fiori at Rome. Interwoven with this
    >>>>>>material are at least five other themes: the seven colors of the
    >>>>>>spectrum; the entrance of Shaun the Post in the first act of
    >>>>>>Boucicault's play Arrah-na-Pogue; the composition of a pack of
    >>>>>>playing cards; some events of the last days of Christ's life,
    >>>>>>together with the liturgical offices which commemorate them; and the
    >>>>>>account of a barrel of Guinness stout rolling down the Liffey to
    >>>>>>Dublin Bay."
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>< Thornton Wilder
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>http://www.themodernword.com/joyce/joyce_paper_wilder.html
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>><insert <reel>s as necessary>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>hes stoned.
    >>>>
    >>>>He should be offered a posthumous membership in the flonk with psoting
    >>>>privileges in related froups.
    >>>
    >>>Should I repost my "Wildcaps" _FW_-quotes-post in memoriam?

    >>
    >>Is this an earwig year?

    >
    > <tremble>
    >
    > What's that?
    >

    Some years are locust years, some are ant years, some are silverfish
    years...

    These things tend to affect the literature of the period - the old
    testament being an example (frogs and locusts).

    I remember one significant _Wildcaps_ passage regarding earwigs. If
    this were an earwig year (somewhat overdue in New England, I believe),
    a repost would be most appropriate.

    --
    nuts
     
  12. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:16:26 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:

    > mimus wrote:
    >
    >> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:58:40 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>
    >>> mimus wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:56:54 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:47:36 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "I am about to show that pages 404 through 407 [of James Joyce's
    >>>>>>> _Finnegan's Wake_] are largely concerned with Giordano Bruno's
    >>>>>>> trial and torture and with his death at the stake, which took
    >>>>>>> place on 17 February 1600 in the Campo dei Fiori at Rome.
    >>>>>>> Interwoven with this material are at least five other themes: the
    >>>>>>> seven colors of the spectrum; the entrance of Shaun the Post in
    >>>>>>> the first act of Boucicault's play Arrah-na-Pogue; the composition
    >>>>>>> of a pack of playing cards; some events of the last days of
    >>>>>>> Christ's life, together with the liturgical offices which
    >>>>>>> commemorate them; and the account of a barrel of Guinness stout
    >>>>>>> rolling down the Liffey to Dublin Bay."
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> < Thornton Wilder
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> http://www.themodernword.com/joyce/joyce_paper_wilder.html
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> <insert <reel>s as necessary>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> hes stoned.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> He should be offered a posthumous membership in the flonk with
    >>>>> psoting privileges in related froups.
    >>>>
    >>>> Should I repost my "Wildcaps" _FW_-quotes-post in memoriam?
    >>>
    >>> Is this an earwig year?

    >>
    >> <tremble>
    >>
    >> What's that?

    >
    > Some years are locust years, some are ant years, some are silverfish
    > years...
    >
    > These things tend to affect the literature of the period - the old
    > testament being an example (frogs and locusts).
    >
    > I remember one significant _Wildcaps_ passage regarding earwigs. If
    > this were an earwig year (somewhat overdue in New England, I believe), a
    > repost would be most appropriate.


    I don't remember ants being cyclic, at least the I think about three kinds
    we have 'round here.

    And isn't it bound to be an earwig-year _somewhere_?

    <goes off looking for "Wildcaps" post>

    <launch-siren>

    <launch>

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    mp 10

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  13. "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:0c-dnVqnpNOdrFLanZ2dnUVZ_rCtnZ2d@giganews.com...
    > "I am about to show that pages 404 through 407 [of James Joyce's
    > _Finnegan's Wake_] are largely concerned with Giordano Bruno's trial and
    > torture and with his death at the stake, which took place on 17 February
    > 1600 in the Campo dei Fiori at Rome. Interwoven with this material are at
    > least five other themes: the seven colors of the spectrum; the entrance of
    > Shaun the Post in the first act of Boucicault's play Arrah-na-Pogue; the
    > composition of a pack of playing cards; some events of the last days of
    > Christ's life, together with the liturgical offices which commemorate
    > them; and the account of a barrel of Guinness stout rolling down the
    > Liffey to Dublin Bay."
    >
    > < Thornton Wilder
    >
    > http://www.themodernword.com/joyce/joyce_paper_wilder.html
    >
    >
    > <insert <reel>s as necessary>


    Bizzy lil sucker, wasn't he?

    Smee

    >
    > --
    > tinmimus99@hotmail.com
    >
    > smeeter 11 or maybe 12
    >
    > mp 10
    >
    > mhm 29x13
    >
    > The hell with the Galactic Overlords
    > and their tastes in literature.
    >
    > < _The Day of the Burning_
    >
     
  14. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:11:40 +0000, pscissons wrote:

    > "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:0c-dnVqnpNOdrFLanZ2dnUVZ_rCtnZ2d@giganews.com...
    >
    >> "I am about to show that pages 404 through 407 [of James Joyce's
    >> _Finnegan's Wake_] are largely concerned with Giordano Bruno's trial and
    >> torture and with his death at the stake, which took place on 17 February
    >> 1600 in the Campo dei Fiori at Rome. Interwoven with this material are at
    >> least five other themes: the seven colors of the spectrum; the entrance of
    >> Shaun the Post in the first act of Boucicault's play Arrah-na-Pogue; the
    >> composition of a pack of playing cards; some events of the last days of
    >> Christ's life, together with the liturgical offices which commemorate
    >> them; and the account of a barrel of Guinness stout rolling down the
    >> Liffey to Dublin Bay."
    >>
    >> < Thornton Wilder
    >>
    >> http://www.themodernword.com/joyce/joyce_paper_wilder.html
    >>
    >>
    >> <insert <reel>s as necessary>

    >
    > Bizzy lil sucker, wasn't he?
    >
    > Smee


    Well, it took Joyce seventeen years of pretty much daily work on
    _Finnegan's Wake_-- what he himself called his "daily damnation", and
    likened writing a book (especially _that_ book) to having a disease-- to
    finish it, so it's not too surprising that it's what is sometimes called
    "intricately worked".

    Regardless of what it _looks_ and _sounds_ like.

    There's a story that Joyce was dictating some of _FW_ to Beckett and
    someone knocked on the door and Joyce said "Come in" and Beckett
    transcribed it and later on read-back Joyce said "Waitaminnit, what's that
    'Come in'?" and they thought about it and realized what had happened and
    Joyce said "Leave it in" and they did.

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