This sums up how I feel about our wars

OMG! You really believe that BS, don't you?

BTW, you have yet to answer why the Dips did nothing except make matters worse for the 2 years they held control over the entire government yet you are blaming the Republicans for not fixing the economy in the single year they had control in ONLY the house. And that does not even count the four years they had the house and senate and thus controlled all legislation.

You must be terribly upset at something. warefare? eveything? pssed?

 

You just spew out of both sides of your mouth, don't you?
If one accepts what you claim that Republicans haven't passed any legislation, haven't done this, haven't done that...how can that be construed as foricing people into gov't dependence. If the Repubs aren't doing this things how can it possibly be construed as encouraging dependence?

 

So name the legislation they've passed that has done anything at all to put people back to work. Anything.

 

President Barack Obama said House and Senate passage Wednesday of three free-trade agreements was "a major win for American workers and businesses."

Wow! Where to begin?

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAna...1110122248/House-Senate-pass-trade-bills.aspx

EPA Regulatory Relief Act of 2011

VOW Act

John Boehner's plan to raise the nation's the debt ceiling and slash government spending

H.Res. 72, 810, 910, 37, 2018, 1315, 2587, 240, 2681, 225, 2273, etc.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/83059-senate-sitting-on-290-house-bills

There are 15 of them plus countless more included in that 290.

BTW, you have yet to answer why the Dips did nothing except make matters worse for the 2 years they held control over the entire government yet you are blaming the Republicans for not fixing the economy in the single year they had control in ONLY the house. And that does not even count the four years they had the house and senate and thus controlled all legislation.

 

Nice attempt to re-direct the attention from your contradictory ramble.
But, if I concede the Repubs haven't passed a jobs bill, how does that create dependence on gov't? Wouldnd't lack of gov't involvement have the opposite effect? That's what I thought. Keep the contradiction coming there buddy.

 

Without jobs, how do people live except of government help? If you want to know the truth, the cons are creating more dependence on government than anyone else. They just refuse to see it nor lend any help to those they are helping into poverty

In other words, Conservatism breeds government dependency.

 

Bocephus said it best:

"I can plow a field all day long
I can catch catfish from dusk till dawn
We make our own whiskey and our own smoke too
Ain’t too many things these ole boys can’t do
We grow good ole tomatoes and homemade wine
And a country boy can survive"

 

Fine, we'll send them out to live off the land.

 

That's your opinion, and I don't have an issue with you believing that. IMO, I am far more positive then you give me credit for and pity myself far less than you imagine. I can agree to disagree, and can leave it at that... but can you?

If, by asking me why I don't pay my fair share, or why I don't work more so I have more money, is your way of "offering" me "hope & encouragement", then thank you for the hope and encouragement... but it's not necessary, and it is unsolicited so I'd appreciate you refraining from offering them in the future. Thank you.

I've stated many times that Moen and I have disagreements on a number of issues, to him and others. The opinions I have are my own, just as his opinions are his own, and yours are yours. That I agree with certain points of his isn't an indication of "hanging on to his philosophy" any more than agreeing with you on certain points indicates an agreement with your own philosophy. I am my own keeper.

I am not on any government programs. I do not receive any support from the government. While you may say any refunds I receive are a benefit, and it is a benefit, I don't consider that support since I worked for that money... it's not given to anyone else but myself.

Thinking positive is the only way some people survive. Believe me when I say I think positive thoughts as often as possible, but I try very hard not to become delusional about my particular circumstances. I know my limits, and I know how to go beyond them, but reality ultimately has more influence on me than my beliefs.

 

I take offense at being considered Moen's meat-puppet and ... what? Oh, ok... Moen says I have to do something else now.

 

So they create a dependence by not offering anything? Hmmmm...exactly how does that work? I say the libs are like drug dealers, handing out their freebies until the population is addicted & indebted to them but in your little corner of the world it would be like a drug dealer trying to get someone addicted by not giving them the drugs? I don't get it.

 

Have you or your family ever been on the verge of starving to death? I believe that we all pay for social safety nets because we don't want people to starve to death. It's not a wonderful existence to live on public money and the downward spiral is hard to overcome but at least you don't die in the streets. I know you don't get it. That has been obvious for quite some time. The first and best solution to poverty is a job and if there are none available, the government has a duty, an obligation, a moral imperative to lend assistance to its citizens. Given that there are 24 million people looking for work and a few hundred thousand jobs being created a month on a good month by the private sector, both the state and federal governments are shedding jobs, WHAT is the alternative for these 24 million people? When you say "government" you are actually saying "us". Our fellow citizens are our responsibility. Our elderly, our children, our disabled, our mentally ill. You RW'ers would rather see them die than have to give one penny more in taxes to support these people and you justify your greed by characterizing them in one lump as lazy, drug addicts, criminals, and every other social stereotype just to justify your indifference towards people in genuine need. You're absolutely right, you don't get it! Thank God more compassionate people will prevail. Greed is its own reward.

 

And the left has made them addicts. Unfortunately, there is only one way to get them off there addiction and feeding their addiction will not work. And before you misinterpret the obvious, I am not including those not capable of supporting themselves.

 

BTW, you have yet to answer why the Dips did nothing except make matters worse for the 2 years they held control over the entire government yet you are blaming the Republicans for not fixing the economy in the single year they had control in ONLY the house. And that does not even count the four years they had the house and senate and thus controlled all legislation.

 

Given that some people would literally die without a government safety net, perhaps the problem is that liberals are making people "addicted to life"? And for ceasing to 'feed their addiction', read ceasing to feed them. If you leave people to sink or swim, some (perhaps most) will find a way to stay afloat, but some will sink. The survival of the fittest may be a useful method of ruthless social engineering and population control, but it's not much use in building a civilized society.

 

Yep. Couldn't agree more with OP. I wonder why invasions so rarely have long-term success...