Things are Changing Radically for our Radical College Educational Industry

You interjected victim i post #18.
What victim? Can you substantiate that? It wasn't answer to the question either. Go back and fill us in, since we don't know what bizarre ideas you have rattling around in your skull.

 

Go easy on yourself. No reason to starve. Just a forum.

 

GeneWright wrote in post 8, "We're not "beginning" our professional lives. The age range of millennials is 26-41 meaning most millennials are in their mid 30s. Should we not be able to afford a house, kids, etc. by then?"

To which SmalltownMN replied in post 11, "There's only one person holding the individual back that has this in their head."

I believe that if your powers of perception do not betray you, upon reflection, you'll get the reference to many members of a generation painting themselves victims (the reference you seek), but I'll try to understand if you don't get it. Interpretation within context . . . a skill that should attend a high (kindergarten) intelligence quotient, but apparently does not.

Bizarre ideas in your mind alone, perhaps, as I think other readers got it the first time around.

 

What you write explains that you label him a victim. How does he feel about it? Gene do you consider yourself a victim regards what he refers to?

 

Bullcrap. If Gene considers himself a victim, that’s his perception. I did not call him a victim, or any of the generation to which he belongs.

 

He was talking about his group then you labeled his group? Or what generation are you talking about? Or can you refine who you were talking about and show us your evidence they identify as victims. You are still just making stuff up. Useless.

 

No, I called no one a victim. My statement was general in nature, not directed at anyone in particular, and descriptive of a class of individuals not exclusive to any particular age group. There are self-proclaimed victims of all ages.

Stop trying to make this something it isn’t, TROLL.

 

post #18 again the victim - not those victims or many other ways you could have phrased it to indicate some other meaning. i just go with what you say. Don't like it? say something else.

 

Nope . . . Yours is a narrow interpretation . . . Read it the way it’s intended to be read.

 

LOL. I have to be a mind reader and predisposed to your intent? we all read what you write. try to clearly write what you mean without room for misinterpretation.

 

That, coming from you?

 

I doubt my intent escaped most of the other members.

Try using that superior kindergarten IQ there . . . Princeton.

 

This is nothing but old news. Higher Ed has known about this demographic for years. You know what they were discussing doing about it? They plan to recruit the 40 percent of high school graduates that don't go to college. They are increasing retention rates. And they recruit overseas students to make up the losses in enrollments. Big deal overall. What you will see less of going forwards is small regional Liberal Arts institutions. Those student populations will shift to the bigger universities and colleges and add to the overall student numbers.

It's almost like Toughie is celebrating a rumored death of Higher Education. You'll die long before Higher Education. Higher Education will dance on your grave.

 

Nice . . . Bankrupt even more students with your liberal-planted delusions of grandeur.

Oh good . . . what're they going to do? Make classes easier to make sure students don't fail out? That'll fix the problem .

As American universities continue to decline in quality, and international universities take more market share, you'll see fewer quality international students matriculating here.​

Actually Joe, I think that's a
Trade Schooler dancing on yours . . . ​

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With each and every post, you demonstrate your ignorance of the topic of Higher Ed. Your personal prejudices and your anti-intellectualism motivations are all that informs you. Maybe you think by disparaging higher learning, you are taking a dig at me. Let me assure you...your poorly informed opinions are roundly rejected based on content alone.

 

You spew self-serving crap.

Your industry has feasted on the hopes of, and the ability of our youth to borrow for an education which was over-marketed to them. It's true that some will prosper . . . have prospered, as the benefit of having extended their formal education, but far too many victims lay in the wake of their own misplaced trust in your system.

If colleges and universities want credibility in making the claims they do, they should back those claims up . . . by they themselves being the creditors for the loans to students borrowing for their educations. There can be no better incentive to deliver educational excellence with a minimum of waste than to have that kind of skin in the game.

 

Not all skools* are created equal. Has any Princeton student ever needed a loan? Who attends? Got a clue? Even the slightest clue? The next 20 posts might be an eye opener for the blind.

* go ahead, jump it.

 

Princeton appears to help a lot more than other schools, but the cost is obscene, and it's not really Princeton that is helping those who cannot pay the sticker price . . . it's other student's families. Families who qualify for the tuition assistance benefit from the struggles of families which do not, and end up finding ways to pay the full obscene price on their own. Sure, you can argue it's Princeton grant money, but where exactly does that grant money come from? You got it . . . the pool of prior families who paid more.

Not including room, board and fees, Princeton tuition alone is $57K. That leaves plenty of margin to fund those grants. Sounds like redistribution of wealth to me. Who needs the government to do this, when Princeton is doing it already?

As if this wasn't bad enough, room, board and fees, which Princeton does not help with, amount to $23,000 per year. That's only, what . . . 50% more than the national average?

Y'know, if you and someone of lesser means came to my table at a show, both wanting a common Saint Gaudens Double Eagle, I could sell you one for twice the price and give the other guy his for free . . . hmm.

So Princeton, elaborate a bit more for us about the value alma mater delivers.

 

The only thing Higher Ed. has failed, is YOU. Obviously, you learned nothing.

 

Wrong . . . I took away from my higher education the knowledge and work ethic, and the critical reasoning and flexible thinking that benefitted me with a fruitful career, and at meager cost compared to the many better-regarded universities.

The only regard in which higher education has failed me is . . . in disappointing my expectation that it would continue to offer respectable payback to even more students than it used to . . . Instead, it has gone in completely the opposite direction.