The "religion of peace"...you think??

I think Aidan has a hard time with the big picture

 

Danr,I am more educated about a lot of things than you think.Your postings about Muslims goes to show that you are still buying into the negative stereotype.Osama bin Laden is not a Muslim.He is a Hell-bound crackpot!

Aidan.

 

Is there a discernible difference???

 

No offence on that. I was referring to some of your posts on the gay thing, as for the Islam thing you make better sense than most around here.

 

Yes there are arab christians living in Lebanon but a fraction of what once was. Lebanon was a Christian nation not to long ago but if anyone recalls the Syrians blew up there Christian president and sent in their army to help the other muslims who were killing and raping one christian village after another.

As for the Christians in Israel, every part of Isreal that was turned over to the PLO has had an exodus of Christian arabs into the united States and the sad thing is is that these christian arabs when offering to work for the FBI and other intelligence agencies as interpertors are turned away for muslims control those departments. It is all in the 911 commision paper. Read the parts that were not discussed on TV.

 

Yes there are arab christians living in Lebanon but a fraction of what once was. Lebanon was a Christian nation not to long ago but if anyone recalls the Syrians blew up the great leader of Maronites and Christian president, Beshir Gemayel, in 1982 and continued to use their army to help the other muslims who were killing and raping one christian village after another at the time.

As for the Christians in Israel, every part of Isreal that was turned over to the PLO has had an exodus of Christian arabs into the united States and the sad thing is is that these christian arabs when offering to work for the FBI and other intelligence agencies as interpertors are turned away for muslims control those departments. It is all in the 911 commision paper. Read the parts that were not discussed on TV.

 

Ok Andy what about Dearborn Michigan. They have a huge Muslim population, most (if not all) of them are patriotic Americans. What about these people? Are they second class citizens who are not to be trusted?

 

I guess you did not read my thread, which you did respond to months ago, on the hundreds of muslim arab americans who worked against this country. I mentioned the FBI interpetor scandals as well as mentioned the muslims in uniform that were caught aiding and abeting the enemy to muslims in american uniform killing american soldiers to the discharged muslim who became the DC sniper. Everything that I mentioned was footnoted at the time.


Basically, 911 happened because of the muslim americans.
But don't take my word for it. Just read the ex-leaders of the FBI statements that Clinton put in power, so you know it is not a republican thing, and how they couldn't clean up their own shop even as they saw what was going on because of potential law suits and political correctness.

 

Finaly Danr responds by saying no one has persecuted the Jew's since Hitler.
OK Danr what happend when Israil declared Indipendence? the Arabs attacked on all sides and the killing began that has never stoped. Jew's living in Arab countries were targeted for attack until Israil began the effort to bring them all back to Israil. If you would like documented evidence of how the Arabs treated the Jew's in there midst try doing a google search on it LOL there is tons of stuff out there.
And yes Stalin persecuted them as did other eastern European leaders who followed his example, with the exception of Tito who went out of his way to help the New state of Israil

De Orc

 

The Jews have always had more power, therefore persecute is the wrong word.

 

So are you saying that their rights need to be curtailed. What do you suggest we do about these citizens.

 

OK one tiny Country that had no real armed forces surrounded by hostile Nations all very well equipt was of course more powerful than them and Danr this was before the US started to ship in surplus WWII tanks, they bought fighter planes from Yugoslavia along with small arms as they were the only country willing to do buisness with Palastine at that time.
Now we move on to today, Israil surrounded by Countries that are to say the least not friendly towards Israil. Countries and Organisations that can rely on vast oil wealth and supiriority of numbers, Israil on the other hand can rely on the US alone, but again you say they are more powerful than the entire Arab world??
Danr you accused my posts of being out there Man wake up and smell the air cus you are living in cloud cookoo land.

De Orc

 

I have to agree with both of you, somewhat anyway. Yes, Israel is surrounded by mostly hostile countries that would like nothing better than to see it fall into the Sea. Yes, there are more Arab people than Jews and yes, there combined wealth is considerable.
However, to say all these fractious Arab countries are more militarily powerful than Israel is not only wrong, it has been proven wrong in the past. Remember the 1967 war? The Arabs got their butts handed to them in record time. Then you have to ask yourself how many of Israel’s neighbors have nukes? We don't even know how many nukes Israel has today. The presence on nuclear weapons more than tilts the power question in Israel’s favor.
So it is hard to see Israel as a defenseless little outpost all alone in the Middle East by any stretch of the imagination.

AND IT IS I-S-R-A-E-L

 

The President of Iran was toying with idea that IF a nuclear war broke out between Israel and muslims, the muslim world could absorb the losses and Israel will finally be destroyed...thereby killing off all of the Jews in Israel.

Sure millions of muslims will be killed in the exchange, but the end result would be great for the islamic cause and all those muslims killed will be awarded in heaven by allah.

Again, this is coming from an islamic radical head of state that has openl endorsed Hamas and other islamic terror groups.

 

OK Moem so again I say my grammer is not brilliant as I am dyxlecsic, but there again neither is your ability to read, I stated Israel at it's Inception! now you name me one of the surrounding countries that was freindly to them?? As for the present we do not know if Pakistan has got the Bomb yet but India believe's it to be so, and as a muslim country I am sure they would happily help there Arab cousins. The Arabs outnumber Israel in conventional wepons and manpower considrably (please feel free to deny this if you can) and lets be honest we do not know if Israel has a working delivery system for any bomb ir might posses as they have yet to launch one.
Where did I say this or imply it 'Israel as a defenseless little outpost all alone in the Middle East' they are alone apart from the US, Defensless no far from it but they could still be overrun by superior numbers & fierpower before they could deploy any bomb.
Try looking at the shock Israel recieved in the 1973 war, yes they finaly gained the upper hand but not without a great deal of aid from the US in replacement aircraft and tanks, now this was a attack by only 2 Arab countries Syria and Eygypt so no Israil is not more powerefull than it's neighbours in the conventional sence nor do they posses the same degree of wealth as the Arabs.

De Orc

Ps you might find it fun to mock my spelling but at least my argument is based on facts and conventional millitery wisdom, what is yours based on?

 

You got to be kidding. There are around one billion and two hundred million muslims in the world and around 14 to 16 million jews. The arab gulf states sit on an ocean of oil and the jews turned desert into farms to get by for most of its existance. If it wasn't for the Christian United States of America supporting Israel now then there would be no Israel. Maybe that is why Christianity is also under attack in this nation. Weaken the Christian faith here and then the support for Israel will erode as well.

By the way the jewish losses in ratio to the population in its wars against the muslims would be unthinkable by Americans today.

 

Isreal IS a powerhouse and has been for a while.

 

How many of these "citizens" spoke out against 911 vs making excuses or shifting blame. How many of these "citizens" activitly support terrorist groups by sending money overseas. Hundreds of millions of dollars a year are sent to the very people who are killing American soldiers today by these "citizens".
Now if someone gets off the plane tommorrow for economic reasons and gets citizenship in one of those mass swearings or by marriage then doe that mean that person will truly think of themselves as being an American?

 

The true ability of the jewish people to fight over there is that they know if they lose, then they are all dead. They fight to protect not only their lives in battle but also the lives of their children and their sisters and mothers at home.

 

I simply do not believe that you are ignorant of Isreali military prowess.