The Inevitable Tea Party Candidate Elections Because Tea Party candidates are beating Republican establishment candidates in several Republican Primaries in traditionally Republican states, it is more than inevitable that we will see at least a few of these extreme right wingers make it a national office this November. I suspect that some will not be able to beat their Democratic challengers and others will be able to simply because they are in such heavily Republican states. In some cases these TP candidates are replacing senior Republicans that wield considerable power and influence. Given all that, what do you think the impact of these TP members will be on the Republican Party? Are they too extreme and too inexperienced to be effective? Interesting times we live in eh?
A couple questions before I can answer; Just which candidate is registered as a Tea Party candidate? Which Tea Party are we talking about here?
If you really don't know the difference between traditional Republican candidates and Tea Party candidates, back out of this thread slowly and keep going.
Serious question (for anyone, actually): What, in your opinion, seperates a Tea Party candidate from a "traditional" Rep candidate?
The Tea Party members focus on fiscal responsibility and smaller limited government first and foremost. And while Moen would like to project that ideology as radical right wing, it is the same ideology that this nation was founded upon. Furthermore, the Tea Party candidates do not just appeal to ultra conservative republicans. Many centrists (inlcuding democrats) and independents are drawn to these candidates because of the current economic situation and the President's socialist agenda. In essence, most everybody wants government spending to stop, and the Tea Party candidates are the ones promising to stop it. That is why they are popular. They represent a deviation from everything that is "politics as usual" which is what both the Democrat and Republican parties have become. The Tea Party candidates that beat Republicans in the primaries will not be dead meat in the November midterms and I don't think the Democrats are in a position to be underestimating anybody at this point. Everything points to a lanslide of lost Democrat seats in Congress and the few Tea Party canidates that end up on the ballots will not change that. I had an idea the other day for a political cartoon. Obama as the Captain of the Titanic with the Democratic incumbents fighting with each other for a seat in one of the lifeboats.
I think I know which "tea party" I root for. Most of their candidates are doing fine. However, there are also those who really qualify as extreme. Point being, at this stage of the game, there is no one party line attached to the "tea party". There are even some "tea parties" started by George Soros and company with the sole purpose of trying to derail the "tea party"/republicans.
I think Lehigh missed one of the main draws of the "tea party". Most have said that they will actually listen to their constituents instead of forcing what the constituents do not want down their throats.
It is pretty much accepted that the Tea Party candidates are far Right of the traditional establishment Republicans. Those who believe that they are some sort of "add-on" to what we think of as the GOP are in for a big surprise. These candidates have all expressed some pretty far fetched ideas from Rand Paul to Sharron Angle. The only reason they are kicking establishment Republican's butt is because they have set themselves apart form the GOP establishment. Remember, the only support they have received so far is from Republicans voting in primaries. The real test is in November. Can these far Right wingers draw any support from the centrists voters or heaven forbid any Democrats? I seriously doubt it but they may win in states that are heavily Republican already. Big deal! It will only decrease those states clout in the Senate and the House. Nice goin' Tea Party!
Yeah, I guess when I hear these folks talking about lower taxes & smaller government I just don't consider it extreme, it just sounds like common sense. Plus, a move to the right was fully expected after the last prez election, right? As for Rand Paul, I haven't heard him say anything much different than what is father espouses yet he has maintained a loyal following. Rand does seem to do a lot of good for the poorer people in his area & has spent a lot of his personal wealth to help people.
It is all a matter of perspective. When your party wants to tax everyone to the limit (whatever that may be) so they can buy us out of this depression, doing anything except increasing taxes sounds ultra extreme.
In the face of certain defeat, we listen to the ego of the liberal democrat. You think that having tea party congressmen is somehow going to help you when you lose control of the house (and possibly Senate). You think it is tough to get legislation passed now, wait until November buddy. And it is not pretty much accepted that the Tea Party Candidates are far right of the traditional Republican establishment. That is what the lilly liberals like yourself want the centrists to believe in order to scare them away from voting for them. In the end, it isn't going to matter what you far lefties think. The voters know you (the Democrats) will keep spending money, and the Tea Party people are claiming they won't. Pretty easy decision if you are a voter worried about the deficit. Do you even realize that their are registered democrats who identify with their party only on social issues but are essentially republicans with respect to economic policy? I have always wanted to ask this question. You and your like (TomC) strongly believe that the government is the solution to our problems. Please name three things that the government has done right over the last half century! I am having trouble coming up with one!
It seems strange to me, but to call those tea party members radicals and far right is kinda questionable...... The tea party pretty well sums up what our founders had intended all along. Small government, low taxes, read the bills and debate them before you vote on them, govern rather than rule the people. Represent your districts as the people in your districts wish to be represented. I guess Jefferson, Madison, Adams......they were radicals at the time. So, maybe being " radical " is not such a bad thing?
After 8 years of Bush and his free spending ways, and 18 months of Obama, America is pissed. It's not just Republicans, it's Dems and Indys also. Clinton balanced the budget, put welfare recipients back to work, was actually a pretty good POTUS. Repos and Dems should unite and take their partys back, and I think thats what the " tea party " is all about. Look at the debt Bush caused....then look what Obama did to it....be honest. Do you really want to continue in this direction? No? Do something about it, because neither the Repos or the Dems re going to change unless WE THE PEOPLE force them to change......
Mid terms are all about who is motivated to vote and why they are motivated to vote. I don;t see how either of those favor the current party in charge.
What's wrong with real people running for office & challenging these career politicians? Whether you are dem or rep, left or right it should just make sense. It's an "energized" type of voter who got BO elected.
Looks like another unqualified tea party favorite is finding out where the rubber meets the road. I don't know which (no pun intended) makes me shake my head more, the witches coven stuff or the born again Christian stuff. I think anybody that swings that wildly from one extreme to the other has to be unstable.
You mean like BO and Ayers, and Wright I suspect Moen's definition would be that they are in the tea party.
I didnt know Ayers and Wright were running for an elected office. I suspect a few in here would call Obama a witch(or warlock) if he had said 'Bewitched' was his favorite show. And if a GOP member found a tape of a lib running of office claiming to be a witch, some of you here would be all over that. In everyday life if someone said to me they practics witchcraft or claimed they were a witch, I'd think they were an a$$hole. her reason for being a witch Reminds me of that Woody Allen movie about communism in the '50s. Zero Mostel said he liked this girl in it, so he joined the party so he could get laid. And please dont give the arguement of teenage confusion. At 19 you know what youre doing. So I see the right is down playing the witch thing and focusing on the born again thing. So is anyone suprised that the left is doing the opposite? And if she was a dem it would be the other way around. But in all honesty,...............Ha! Who am I kidding