THE Humanity! Beer Prices Going UP

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:56:35 -0800, Aratzio wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:46:33 -0500, in the land of
> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:13:14 -0800, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:47:01 -0500, in the land of
>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>>>got double secret probation for writing:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:03:19 -0800, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:18:51 -0500, in the land of
>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>>>>>got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:21:23 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, in
>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Aratzio
>>>>>>><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> bloviated:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for *good*
>>>>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Who cares about the history of beer you tards, the future of beer is
>>>>>>>EXPENSIVE! We must do something now. We must form a working group to
>>>>>>>discuss the ramificatios of the price and the negative impact by said
>>>>>>>price with respect to our daily budgets. What must we trim from our
>>>>>>>budget to insure an adequate BEER supply. Is there a Beer Futures
>>>>>>>market where we can make long term strategic buys to lock in current
>>>>>>>prices in the very changing Beer financial market.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Stop discussing history, start planning the future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>TAKE BACK OUR BEER!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>theyre selling six packs of schlitz malt liquor at the quickie mart
>>>>>>for $3.99.
>>>>>
>>>>>They still make Shitz?
>>>>
>>>>dunno, but the strohs brewery certainly makes quite a bit of malt
>>>>liquor.
>>>
>>>You do know Strohs spelled backwrds is Shorts
>>
>>which is fine with me. filtering through the undies of the dallas
>>cheerleaders would be a grand sales point.
>
> Strohs is from Chicago, yer prolly gettin the Chicago Bears, not
> thecheerleaders.

That sounds even worse than Option A.

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commercials where you have to eat something.

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:04:27 -0800, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:26:32 -0500, in the land of
>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:57:04 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:46:08 -0800, in
>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, ???hw??f <snuhwolf@netscape.net>
>>>bloviated:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:14:52 -0800
>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wasted precious bandwith with:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:38:20 -0500, in the land of
>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom
>>>>> <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>
>>>>> >On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:24:48 -0800, Aratzio
>>>>> ><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:01:55 -0500, in the land of
>>>>> >>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom
>>>>> ><DaVe@MeOw.OrG>>got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:09:26 GMT, Aratzio
>>>>> ><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>>>wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:24:05 -0500, in
>>>>> >>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom
>>>>> ><DaVe@MeOw.OrG>>>>bloviated:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, Aratzio
>>>>> ><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>>>>>wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for
>>>>> >*good*>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>good thing i brew my own fermented beverages.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>And the cost is going up, IF you can get the good hops
>>>>> >anymore.>>
>>>>> >>>which is why MEAD is so appealing now! hah! NO HOPS!!!!!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>Yeah, honey is going up faster than the hops, what with all the
>>>>> >bees>dying off.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >a world without flowers and their fruits would be a tragedy
>>>>> >indeed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, all the dead people would smell
>>>>>
>>>>Who said "kill the bees and the rest follow"?
>>>>I think it was Einstein...
>>>>WHY IS THERE A alt.free.newsservers.aratzio???
>>>>You got some 'splainin to do...
>>>
>>>Bowtie, in one of his psychotic fits newgrouped it in my honor.
>>>
>>>At least he didn't go for any of my sock puppets, like Far Canal.
>>
>>that was so funny. 400+ groups newgrouped in one extremely
>>unmedicated night by the bowtie. oh, how we laughed.
>
>I think it was over a week or so. We were scoring at home. Fred Hall
>won with like 110.

I still haven't decided if that was an honor or not. It was certainly
funny.

If only I could transfer those scores to the Rangers. We'd win the
World Series. About the only way that will ever happen.

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>through virus and worm laden posts. No need to fight through personal
>vendettas, and obscenity laden posts.

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in August 2004

 

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:54:20 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
employed an infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number of
typewriter to say:

>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:37:35 -0600, in
>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, BostonBlackie?
><gangster@hell-flame-wars.org> bloviated:
>
>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:28:04 -0500, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>>employed an infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number of
>>typewriter to say:
>>
>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:05:24 -0600, BostonBlackie?
>>><gangster@hell-flame-wars.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:24:05 -0500, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>>>>employed an infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number of
>>>>typewriter to say:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for *good*
>>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>>
>>>>>good thing i brew my own fermented beverages.
>>>>
>>>>If you harvest your own hops and cure them in a smoker, you'll have
>>>>something like this
>>>>
>>>>http://www.schlenkerla.de/rauchbier/beschreibunge.html
>>>
>>>mmmmmmmmmmmm
>>>
>>>mabye i should look into getting whole hops instead of pellets some
>>>time, and give that a try.
>>
>>I can't get that brew in my state of residence. So I save my fix for
>>my annual pilgrimage to northern Germany. They don't drink it up
>>there, so we have it delivered via DHL to where I'm staying. I'll
>>bring back a 10 pack of battles (5L) with me and probably consume
>>another 20L while there.
>
>Last time I was in northern europe I had a beer called Kaiser Doppel
>Malt. Don't know whether it was just beer-o'clock and I wanted a beer
>or whether it really was the best beer I have ever tasted. I prefer to
>think the latter.

I'll see if I can find any and give it try. It would have to be
pretty special to be more tasty than the smokebeer.
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friend."
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mimus wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:15:37 -0600, Dennis M. Hammes wrote:
>
>
>>dave hillstrom wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:04:48 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:54:59 -0600, TheBookman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:07:23 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:15:36 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:09:26 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:24:05 -0500, in
>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>>>>>>>>bloviated:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for *good*
>>>>>>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>good thing i brew my own fermented beverages.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And the cost is going up, IF you can get the good hops anymore.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You can substitute several things for hops with good results, including
>>>>>>>catnip and pot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Not to mention all the horrible other things you can wrestle into the
>>>>>>>boil-bags.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>indeed. hops were not used in beer until rather recently, i believe
>>>>>>between 700 AD and 1,000 AD. before that, they used all kinds of
>>>>>>stuff, including hot red pepper.
>>>>>
>>>>>Unless you're referring to red peppecorns (unlikely or at least very
>>>>>uncommon, IMO, given the expense), red (chile) peppers cannot have been
>>>>>used to flavor beer before 1492CE, since they originated from the "New
>>>>>World", along with potatoes and tomatoes.
>>>>>
>>>>>HTH.
>>>>
>>>>Didn't, like, the Toltecs or Olmecs or anyone brew beer?
>>>
>>>sure they did.
>>>
>>>everyone brewed beer of some sort.
>>>
>>>although its still somewhat up in the air about whether beer, wine, or
>>>mead were first on the human fermentables calendar. the probability
>>>is beer or mead, which ferment far faster than wine, but who knows?
>>>were talking like 8000 BC or more back in history.
>>
>>Right, and cereal grains date back only to 5000 BCE and the founding
>>of Jericho around the discovery of Emmer wheat, or 3000> BCE and rice
>>in the Orient.
>>
>>Honey is relatively rare (until commercial hay-fields) and incurs
>>some difficulty in the harvest, particulary for a people without
>>ready (made from scratch) fire. Honey is also self-preserving, and
>>will not ferment unless diluted and forced.
>> Berries are likely first of that group, are more common than
>>fruits, esp. the modern, large-pulp varieties, and several will
>>produce all season.
>> However one wonders if Adam actually ate apple or got plonked on
>>natural cider (cf. Frost's "The Cow in Apple-Time"), hence the
>>Injunction.
>>
>>However, the most-likely "first" is one of the known root-starches.
>>The earliest under cultivation were various water-lilies (lotus,
>>e.g.) in the Tigris, Nile, Indus, etc.
>> What makes it difficult is that written records postdate Jericho,
>>and that the materials of undistilled booze are ephemeral and the
>>tools common pots, obviating archeological evidence.
>
>
> I can't believe our distant African forebears didn't take careful notice
> of the elephants getting fried on fermented fruit . . . .
>

Considering that /Australopithecus/ is known to have made (split, not
shaped) tools and used (not made) fire, I'd have to put the
accidental discovery and cultivation (of method, not material) of
/some/ form of natural booze between 3- and 1 million BP.
That's considering the objects and equations.
The evidence is so ephemeral it wouldn't persist ten years.

Considering that /neanderthalensis/ buried his dead with wildflowers,
proving he knew and cultivated ritual, I'd be perfectly willing to
include the cultivation of booze (method, not material; there's /no/
evidence that he did more than collect and packrat what was
available) by 400,000 BP.

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mimus wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:43:28 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
>
>
>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:36:31 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:15:37 -0600, Dennis M. Hammes wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>dave hillstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:04:48 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:54:59 -0600, TheBookman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:07:23 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:15:36 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:09:26 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:24:05 -0500, in
>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>>>>>>>>>>bloviated:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for *good*
>>>>>>>>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>good thing i brew my own fermented beverages.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>And the cost is going up, IF you can get the good hops anymore.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You can substitute several things for hops with good results, including
>>>>>>>>>catnip and pot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Not to mention all the horrible other things you can wrestle into the
>>>>>>>>>boil-bags.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>indeed. hops were not used in beer until rather recently, i believe
>>>>>>>>between 700 AD and 1,000 AD. before that, they used all kinds of
>>>>>>>>stuff, including hot red pepper.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Unless you're referring to red peppecorns (unlikely or at least very
>>>>>>>uncommon, IMO, given the expense), red (chile) peppers cannot have been
>>>>>>>used to flavor beer before 1492CE, since they originated from the "New
>>>>>>>World", along with potatoes and tomatoes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>HTH.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Didn't, like, the Toltecs or Olmecs or anyone brew beer?
>>>>>
>>>>>sure they did.
>>>>>
>>>>>everyone brewed beer of some sort.
>>>>>
>>>>>although its still somewhat up in the air about whether beer, wine, or
>>>>>mead were first on the human fermentables calendar. the probability
>>>>>is beer or mead, which ferment far faster than wine, but who knows?
>>>>>were talking like 8000 BC or more back in history.
>>>>
>>>>Right, and cereal grains date back only to 5000 BCE and the founding
>>>>of Jericho around the discovery of Emmer wheat, or 3000> BCE and rice
>>>>in the Orient.
>>>>
>>>>Honey is relatively rare (until commercial hay-fields) and incurs
>>>>some difficulty in the harvest, particulary for a people without
>>>>ready (made from scratch) fire. Honey is also self-preserving, and
>>>>will not ferment unless diluted and forced.
>>>> Berries are likely first of that group, are more common than
>>>>fruits, esp. the modern, large-pulp varieties, and several will
>>>>produce all season.
>>>> However one wonders if Adam actually ate apple or got plonked on
>>>>natural cider (cf. Frost's "The Cow in Apple-Time"), hence the
>>>>Injunction.
>>>>
>>>>However, the most-likely "first" is one of the known root-starches.
>>>>The earliest under cultivation were various water-lilies (lotus,
>>>>e.g.) in the Tigris, Nile, Indus, etc.
>>>> What makes it difficult is that written records postdate Jericho,
>>>>and that the materials of undistilled booze are ephemeral and the
>>>>tools common pots, obviating archeological evidence.
>>>
>>>I can't believe our distant African forebears didn't take careful notice
>>>of the elephants getting fried on fermented fruit . . . .
>>
>>oh, im sure they did. but theres a difference between finding
>>something like that in nature and actually being able to create it on
>>your own.
>
>
> "Srb subscribed to a theory of great antiquity concerning the foundation
> of civilization, a theory beyond proof, but sufficiently within the bounds
> of possibility to merit endorsement. Civilization depends on stable
> living conditions for populations of some size that will allow them to
> build, invent, coin, keep records, and stock supplies for making war.
> Civilization in this sense is not possible for migrant populations, that
> is, populations whose staff of life is roots, berries and wild animal
> carcasses, the search for which keeps them eternally on the move.
> Civilization is the offspring of the invention of agriculture. But why
> did man take up agriculture? Not to allow himself to build, invent, coin,
> keep records, and stock rocks. That could not be foreseen. No, the
> invention of agriculture was to save men trouble in collecting the
> wherewithal for making beer. And when he drank beer, which he liked to
> do, Srb relished the thought that he was secretly preserving civilization."
>
> < Alexi Panshin, _Star Well_
>

Heh. *applause*

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dave hillstrom wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:15:37 -0600, "Dennis M. Hammes"
> <scrawlmark@arvig.net> wrote:
>
>
>>dave hillstrom wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:04:48 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:54:59 -0600, TheBookman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:07:23 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:15:36 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:09:26 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:24:05 -0500, in
>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>>>>>>>>bloviated:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for *good*
>>>>>>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>good thing i brew my own fermented beverages.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And the cost is going up, IF you can get the good hops anymore.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You can substitute several things for hops with good results, including
>>>>>>>catnip and pot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Not to mention all the horrible other things you can wrestle into the
>>>>>>>boil-bags.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>indeed. hops were not used in beer until rather recently, i believe
>>>>>>between 700 AD and 1,000 AD. before that, they used all kinds of
>>>>>>stuff, including hot red pepper.
>>>>>
>>>>>Unless you're referring to red peppecorns (unlikely or at least very
>>>>>uncommon, IMO, given the expense), red (chile) peppers cannot have been
>>>>>used to flavor beer before 1492CE, since they originated from the "New
>>>>>World", along with potatoes and tomatoes.
>>>>>
>>>>>HTH.
>>>>
>>>>Didn't, like, the Toltecs or Olmecs or anyone brew beer?
>>>
>>>
>>>sure they did.
>>>
>>>everyone brewed beer of some sort.
>>>
>>>although its still somewhat up in the air about whether beer, wine, or
>>>mead were first on the human fermentables calendar. the probability
>>>is beer or mead, which ferment far faster than wine, but who knows?
>>>were talking like 8000 BC or more back in history.
>>>
>>
>>Right, and cereal grains date back only to 5000 BCE and the founding
>>of Jericho around the discovery of Emmer wheat, or 3000> BCE and rice
>>in the Orient.
>>
>>Honey is relatively rare (until commercial hay-fields) and incurs
>>some difficulty in the harvest, particulary for a people without
>>ready (made from scratch) fire. Honey is also self-preserving, and
>>will not ferment unless diluted and forced.
>> Berries are likely first of that group, are more common than
>>fruits, esp. the modern, large-pulp varieties, and several will
>>produce all season.
>> However one wonders if Adam actually ate apple or got plonked on
>>natural cider (cf. Frost's "The Cow in Apple-Time"), hence the
>>Injunction.
>>
>>However, the most-likely "first" is one of the known root-starches.
>>The earliest under cultivation were various water-lilies (lotus,
>>e.g.) in the Tigris, Nile, Indus, etc.
>> What makes it difficult is that written records postdate Jericho,
>>and that the materials of undistilled booze are ephemeral and the
>>tools common pots, obviating archeological evidence.
>
>
> making it even harder, one theory has that people travelling around
> even pre civilization would make containers out of skins for water.
> the theory says that they might even put in fruits or honey for taste,
> which of course would have wild yeast on it, and so by seeming magic,
> a skin here or there would produce an alcoholic elixer. and of course
> that skin would become imbued with yeast such that pretty much any
> water/sugar addition would do the trick! and yer just not gonna find
> a skin like this in the archeological record.
>

Perzakly.
But the funny thing about statistics is this, that if a thing has
only a chance in a billion of happening, it's fuken well gonna happen.

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Aratzio wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:18:51 -0500, in the land of
> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>
>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:21:23 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, in
>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Aratzio
>>><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> bloviated:
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>
>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for *good*
>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Who cares about the history of beer you tards, the future of beer is
>>>EXPENSIVE! We must do something now. We must form a working group to
>>>discuss the ramificatios of the price and the negative impact by said
>>>price with respect to our daily budgets. What must we trim from our
>>>budget to insure an adequate BEER supply. Is there a Beer Futures
>>>market where we can make long term strategic buys to lock in current
>>>prices in the very changing Beer financial market.
>>>
>>>Stop discussing history, start planning the future.
>>>
>>>TAKE BACK OUR BEER!
>>
>>theyre selling six packs of schlitz malt liquor at the quickie mart
>>for $3.99.
>
>
> They still make Shitz?
>

"Teh Galaxy's Finest Malt Liquor!"

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dave hillstrom wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:03:19 -0800, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:18:51 -0500, in the land of
>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>>got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:21:23 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, in
>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Aratzio
>>>><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> bloviated:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>>
>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for *good*
>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Who cares about the history of beer you tards, the future of beer is
>>>>EXPENSIVE! We must do something now. We must form a working group to
>>>>discuss the ramificatios of the price and the negative impact by said
>>>>price with respect to our daily budgets. What must we trim from our
>>>>budget to insure an adequate BEER supply. Is there a Beer Futures
>>>>market where we can make long term strategic buys to lock in current
>>>>prices in the very changing Beer financial market.
>>>>
>>>>Stop discussing history, start planning the future.
>>>>
>>>>TAKE BACK OUR BEER!
>>>
>>>theyre selling six packs of schlitz malt liquor at the quickie mart
>>>for $3.99.
>>
>>They still make Shitz?
>
>
> dunno, but the strohs brewery certainly makes quite a bit of malt
> liquor.
>

Stroh's resurrects almost /any/ old logo if there's enough call
through the distribs. Remember "Billy Beer"?
I even see Blatz back on the shelf on occasion.

--
-------(m+
~/)_|
Gresham's Law is not worth a Continental.
http://scrawlmark.org

 

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:33:30 -0600, Fred Hall <fkhall@gmail.com>
employed an infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number of
typewriter to say:

>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:04:27 -0800, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:26:32 -0500, in the land of
>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>>got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:57:04 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:46:08 -0800, in
>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, ???hw??f <snuhwolf@netscape.net>
>>>>bloviated:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:14:52 -0800
>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wasted precious bandwith with:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:38:20 -0500, in the land of
>>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom
>>>>>> <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:24:48 -0800, Aratzio
>>>>>> ><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:01:55 -0500, in the land of
>>>>>> >>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom
>>>>>> ><DaVe@MeOw.OrG>>got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:09:26 GMT, Aratzio
>>>>>> ><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>>>wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:24:05 -0500, in
>>>>>> >>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom
>>>>>> ><DaVe@MeOw.OrG>>>>bloviated:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, Aratzio
>>>>>> ><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for
>>>>>> >*good*>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>good thing i brew my own fermented beverages.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>And the cost is going up, IF you can get the good hops
>>>>>> >anymore.>>
>>>>>> >>>which is why MEAD is so appealing now! hah! NO HOPS!!!!!
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>Yeah, honey is going up faster than the hops, what with all the
>>>>>> >bees>dying off.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >a world without flowers and their fruits would be a tragedy
>>>>>> >indeed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, all the dead people would smell
>>>>>>
>>>>>Who said "kill the bees and the rest follow"?
>>>>>I think it was Einstein...
>>>>>WHY IS THERE A alt.free.newsservers.aratzio???
>>>>>You got some 'splainin to do...
>>>>
>>>>Bowtie, in one of his psychotic fits newgrouped it in my honor.
>>>>
>>>>At least he didn't go for any of my sock puppets, like Far Canal.
>>>
>>>that was so funny. 400+ groups newgrouped in one extremely
>>>unmedicated night by the bowtie. oh, how we laughed.
>>
>>I think it was over a week or so. We were scoring at home. Fred Hall
>>won with like 110.
>
>I still haven't decided if that was an honor or not. It was certainly
>funny.
>
>If only I could transfer those scores to the Rangers. We'd win the
>World Series. About the only way that will ever happen.

Sad, but true. After they saddled themselves with A-Rod rather than
filling the real needs at the time, they crippled their ability to fix
the real problems.
--
Boston Blackie?
mhm 29x8

"Enemy to those who make him an enemy. Friend to those who have no
friend."
--from the intro to the Boston Blackie radio show (1945)

"You don't have to be a member of the KKK to be a wizard under the sheets"

Proud member of the I am Spooge lits

 

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:02:08 -0600, Dennis M. Hammes wrote:

> dave hillstrom wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:15:37 -0600, "Dennis M. Hammes"
>> <scrawlmark@arvig.net> wrote:
>>
>>>dave hillstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:04:48 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:54:59 -0600, TheBookman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:07:23 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:15:36 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:09:26 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:24:05 -0500, in
>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>>>>>>>>>bloviated:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for *good*
>>>>>>>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>good thing i brew my own fermented beverages.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And the cost is going up, IF you can get the good hops anymore.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You can substitute several things for hops with good results, including
>>>>>>>>catnip and pot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Not to mention all the horrible other things you can wrestle into the
>>>>>>>>boil-bags.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>indeed. hops were not used in beer until rather recently, i believe
>>>>>>>between 700 AD and 1,000 AD. before that, they used all kinds of
>>>>>>>stuff, including hot red pepper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Unless you're referring to red peppecorns (unlikely or at least very
>>>>>>uncommon, IMO, given the expense), red (chile) peppers cannot have been
>>>>>>used to flavor beer before 1492CE, since they originated from the "New
>>>>>>World", along with potatoes and tomatoes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>HTH.
>>>>>
>>>>>Didn't, like, the Toltecs or Olmecs or anyone brew beer?
>>>>
>>>>sure they did.
>>>>
>>>>everyone brewed beer of some sort.
>>>>
>>>>although its still somewhat up in the air about whether beer, wine, or
>>>>mead were first on the human fermentables calendar. the probability
>>>>is beer or mead, which ferment far faster than wine, but who knows?
>>>>were talking like 8000 BC or more back in history.
>>>
>>>Right, and cereal grains date back only to 5000 BCE and the founding
>>>of Jericho around the discovery of Emmer wheat, or 3000> BCE and rice
>>>in the Orient.
>>>
>>>Honey is relatively rare (until commercial hay-fields) and incurs
>>>some difficulty in the harvest, particulary for a people without
>>>ready (made from scratch) fire. Honey is also self-preserving, and
>>>will not ferment unless diluted and forced.
>>> Berries are likely first of that group, are more common than
>>>fruits, esp. the modern, large-pulp varieties, and several will
>>>produce all season.
>>> However one wonders if Adam actually ate apple or got plonked on
>>>natural cider (cf. Frost's "The Cow in Apple-Time"), hence the
>>>Injunction.
>>>
>>>However, the most-likely "first" is one of the known root-starches.
>>>The earliest under cultivation were various water-lilies (lotus,
>>>e.g.) in the Tigris, Nile, Indus, etc.
>>> What makes it difficult is that written records postdate Jericho,
>>>and that the materials of undistilled booze are ephemeral and the
>>>tools common pots, obviating archeological evidence.
>>
>> making it even harder, one theory has that people travelling around
>> even pre civilization would make containers out of skins for water.
>> the theory says that they might even put in fruits or honey for taste,
>> which of course would have wild yeast on it, and so by seeming magic,
>> a skin here or there would produce an alcoholic elixer. and of course
>> that skin would become imbued with yeast such that pretty much any
>> water/sugar addition would do the trick! and yer just not gonna find
>> a skin like this in the archeological record.
>
> Perzakly.
> But the funny thing about statistics is this, that if a thing has
> only a chance in a billion of happening, it's fuken well gonna happen.

No no no, that's only if it's a million to one against.

(The Adams-Pratchett Axiom of Improbability.)

--
tinmimus99@hotmail.com

smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

"The math is easy," said Chaos.

< _Thief of Time_

 

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:13:58 -0600, in rec.arts.poems, "Dennis M.
Hammes" <scrawlmark@arvig.net> bloviated:

>Aratzio wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:18:51 -0500, in the land of
>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:21:23 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, in
>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Aratzio
>>>><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> bloviated:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>>
>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for *good*
>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Who cares about the history of beer you tards, the future of beer is
>>>>EXPENSIVE! We must do something now. We must form a working group to
>>>>discuss the ramificatios of the price and the negative impact by said
>>>>price with respect to our daily budgets. What must we trim from our
>>>>budget to insure an adequate BEER supply. Is there a Beer Futures
>>>>market where we can make long term strategic buys to lock in current
>>>>prices in the very changing Beer financial market.
>>>>
>>>>Stop discussing history, start planning the future.
>>>>
>>>>TAKE BACK OUR BEER!
>>>
>>>theyre selling six packs of schlitz malt liquor at the quickie mart
>>>for $3.99.
>>
>>
>> They still make Shitz?
>>
>
>"Teh Galaxy's Finest Malt Liquor!"

ICK

Next up a review of Pabst

ICK

 

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:16:46 -0600, in rec.arts.poems, "Dennis M.
Hammes" <scrawlmark@arvig.net> bloviated:

>dave hillstrom wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:03:19 -0800, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:18:51 -0500, in the land of
>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>>>got double secret probation for writing:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:21:23 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, in
>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Aratzio
>>>>><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> bloviated:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for *good*
>>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Who cares about the history of beer you tards, the future of beer is
>>>>>EXPENSIVE! We must do something now. We must form a working group to
>>>>>discuss the ramificatios of the price and the negative impact by said
>>>>>price with respect to our daily budgets. What must we trim from our
>>>>>budget to insure an adequate BEER supply. Is there a Beer Futures
>>>>>market where we can make long term strategic buys to lock in current
>>>>>prices in the very changing Beer financial market.
>>>>>
>>>>>Stop discussing history, start planning the future.
>>>>>
>>>>>TAKE BACK OUR BEER!
>>>>
>>>>theyre selling six packs of schlitz malt liquor at the quickie mart
>>>>for $3.99.
>>>
>>>They still make Shitz?
>>
>>
>> dunno, but the strohs brewery certainly makes quite a bit of malt
>> liquor.
>>
>
>Stroh's resurrects almost /any/ old logo if there's enough call
>through the distribs. Remember "Billy Beer"?
> I even see Blatz back on the shelf on occasion.

Old Frothingschloss (sp) "The stale pale ale with the head on the
bottom"

When you see Regal Crown Select in quart bottles you know you have hit
the mother lode of nasty beer.

 

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:24:32 -0600, in rec.arts.poems, BostonBlackie?
<gangster@hell-flame-wars.org> bloviated:

>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:33:30 -0600, Fred Hall <fkhall@gmail.com>
>employed an infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number of
>typewriter to say:
>
>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:04:27 -0800, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:26:32 -0500, in the land of
>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>>>got double secret probation for writing:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:57:04 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:46:08 -0800, in
>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, ???hw??f <snuhwolf@netscape.net>
>>>>>bloviated:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:14:52 -0800
>>>>>>Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wasted precious bandwith with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:38:20 -0500, in the land of
>>>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom
>>>>>>> <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:24:48 -0800, Aratzio
>>>>>>> ><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:01:55 -0500, in the land of
>>>>>>> >>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom
>>>>>>> ><DaVe@MeOw.OrG>>got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:09:26 GMT, Aratzio
>>>>>>> ><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>>>wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:24:05 -0500, in
>>>>>>> >>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom
>>>>>>> ><DaVe@MeOw.OrG>>>>bloviated:
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, Aratzio
>>>>>>> ><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for
>>>>>>> >*good*>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>good thing i brew my own fermented beverages.
>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>And the cost is going up, IF you can get the good hops
>>>>>>> >anymore.>>
>>>>>>> >>>which is why MEAD is so appealing now! hah! NO HOPS!!!!!
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>Yeah, honey is going up faster than the hops, what with all the
>>>>>>> >bees>dying off.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >a world without flowers and their fruits would be a tragedy
>>>>>>> >indeed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, all the dead people would smell
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Who said "kill the bees and the rest follow"?
>>>>>>I think it was Einstein...
>>>>>>WHY IS THERE A alt.free.newsservers.aratzio???
>>>>>>You got some 'splainin to do...
>>>>>
>>>>>Bowtie, in one of his psychotic fits newgrouped it in my honor.
>>>>>
>>>>>At least he didn't go for any of my sock puppets, like Far Canal.
>>>>
>>>>that was so funny. 400+ groups newgrouped in one extremely
>>>>unmedicated night by the bowtie. oh, how we laughed.
>>>
>>>I think it was over a week or so. We were scoring at home. Fred Hall
>>>won with like 110.
>>
>>I still haven't decided if that was an honor or not. It was certainly
>>funny.
>>
>>If only I could transfer those scores to the Rangers. We'd win the
>>World Series. About the only way that will ever happen.
>
>Sad, but true. After they saddled themselves with A-Rod rather than
>filling the real needs at the time, they crippled their ability to fix
>the real problems.

I still remember trying to tell people back in '99/'00 that Bush was a
moron. I knew this because I remembered that he took one of the worst
franchises in baseball and made them even worse. How can you fuck up
the Rangers? You have to REALLY work at that.

 

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:56:54 +0000, Aratzio wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:13:58 -0600, in rec.arts.poems, "Dennis M.
> Hammes" <scrawlmark@arvig.net> bloviated:
>
>>Aratzio wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:18:51 -0500, in the land of
>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>>> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:21:23 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, in
>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Aratzio
>>>>><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> bloviated:
>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for *good*
>>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>>
>>>>>Who cares about the history of beer you tards, the future of beer is
>>>>>EXPENSIVE! We must do something now. We must form a working group to
>>>>>discuss the ramificatios of the price and the negative impact by said
>>>>>price with respect to our daily budgets. What must we trim from our
>>>>>budget to insure an adequate BEER supply. Is there a Beer Futures
>>>>>market where we can make long term strategic buys to lock in current
>>>>>prices in the very changing Beer financial market.
>>>>>
>>>>>Stop discussing history, start planning the future.
>>>>>
>>>>>TAKE BACK OUR BEER!
>>>>
>>>>theyre selling six packs of schlitz malt liquor at the quickie mart
>>>>for $3.99.
>>>
>>> They still make Shitz?
>>
>>"Teh Galaxy's Finest Malt Liquor!"
>
> ICK
>
> Next up a review of Pabst
>
> ICK

Beast, man. Milwaukee's Best. By the (cheap) pitcher.

--
tinmimus99@hotmail.com

smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

I recognize no authority but the Constitution of the
United States (some parts of it) and the bouncer at
Jack's and Charlie's.

< Benchley

 

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:04:23 -0500, in
alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
bloviated:

>On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:56:54 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:13:58 -0600, in rec.arts.poems, "Dennis M.
>> Hammes" <scrawlmark@arvig.net> bloviated:
>>
>>>Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:18:51 -0500, in the land of
>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>>>> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:21:23 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, in
>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Aratzio
>>>>>><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> bloviated:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for *good*
>>>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Who cares about the history of beer you tards, the future of beer is
>>>>>>EXPENSIVE! We must do something now. We must form a working group to
>>>>>>discuss the ramificatios of the price and the negative impact by said
>>>>>>price with respect to our daily budgets. What must we trim from our
>>>>>>budget to insure an adequate BEER supply. Is there a Beer Futures
>>>>>>market where we can make long term strategic buys to lock in current
>>>>>>prices in the very changing Beer financial market.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Stop discussing history, start planning the future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TAKE BACK OUR BEER!
>>>>>
>>>>>theyre selling six packs of schlitz malt liquor at the quickie mart
>>>>>for $3.99.
>>>>
>>>> They still make Shitz?
>>>
>>>"Teh Galaxy's Finest Malt Liquor!"
>>
>> ICK
>>
>> Next up a review of Pabst
>>
>> ICK
>
>Beast, man. Milwaukee's Best. By the (cheap) pitcher.

Old Milwaukee

ICK

Red, White & Blue

ICK

 

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:57:04 GMT
Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wasted precious bandwith with:

> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:46:08 -0800, in
> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, ???hw??f
> <snuhwolf@netscape.net> bloviated:
>
> >On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:14:52 -0800
> >Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wasted precious bandwith with:
> >
> >> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:38:20 -0500, in the land of
> >> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom
> >> <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> got double secret probation for writing:
> >>
> >> >On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:24:48 -0800, Aratzio
> >> ><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:01:55 -0500, in the land of
> >> >>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom
> >> ><DaVe@MeOw.OrG>>got double secret probation for writing:
> >> >>
> >> >>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:09:26 GMT, Aratzio
> >> ><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>>>wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:24:05 -0500, in
> >> >>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom
> >> ><DaVe@MeOw.OrG>>>>bloviated:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, Aratzio
> >> ><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>>>>>wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price
> >for> >*good*>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>good thing i brew my own fermented beverages.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>And the cost is going up, IF you can get the good hops
> >> >anymore.>>
> >> >>>which is why MEAD is so appealing now! hah! NO HOPS!!!!!
> >> >>
> >> >>Yeah, honey is going up faster than the hops, what with all
> >the> >bees>dying off.
> >> >
> >> >a world without flowers and their fruits would be a tragedy
> >> >indeed.
> >>
> >> Yeah, all the dead people would smell
> >>
> >Who said "kill the bees and the rest follow"?
> >I think it was Einstein...
> >WHY IS THERE A alt.free.newsservers.aratzio???
> >You got some 'splainin to do...
>
> Bowtie, in one of his psychotic fits newgrouped it in my honor.
>
> At least he didn't go for any of my sock puppets, like Far Canal.


I like pizza. Sometimes I put ha-la-peen-yoz on it.

--
www.smirkingchimp.com

 

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:58:55 GMT
Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wasted precious bandwith with:

> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:16:46 -0600, in rec.arts.poems, "Dennis M.
> Hammes" <scrawlmark@arvig.net> bloviated:
>
> >dave hillstrom wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:03:19 -0800, Aratzio
> ><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:18:51 -0500, in the land of
> >>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom
> ><DaVe@MeOw.OrG>>>got double secret probation for writing:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:21:23 GMT, Aratzio
> ><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>>>>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, in
> >>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Aratzio
> >>>>><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> bloviated:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for
> >*good*>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Who cares about the history of beer you tards, the future of
> >beer is>>>>EXPENSIVE! We must do something now. We must form a
> >working group to>>>>discuss the ramificatios of the price and the
> >negative impact by said>>>>price with respect to our daily
> >budgets. What must we trim from our>>>>budget to insure an
> >adequate BEER supply. Is there a Beer Futures>>>>market where we
> >can make long term strategic buys to lock in current>>>>prices in
> >the very changing Beer financial market. >>>>
> >>>>>Stop discussing history, start planning the future.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>TAKE BACK OUR BEER!
> >>>>
> >>>>theyre selling six packs of schlitz malt liquor at the quickie
> >mart>>>for $3.99.
> >>>
> >>>They still make Shitz?
> >>
> >>
> >> dunno, but the strohs brewery certainly makes quite a bit of
> >malt> liquor.
> >>
> >
> >Stroh's resurrects almost /any/ old logo if there's enough call
> >through the distribs. Remember "Billy Beer"?
> > I even see Blatz back on the shelf on occasion.
>
> Old Frothingschloss (sp) "The stale pale ale with the head on the
> bottom"
>
> When you see Regal Crown Select in quart bottles you know you have
> hit the mother lode of nasty beer.
>
Old Millwakee is pretty horrid....

Moose Drool isa micro brew here that gets accolades.

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On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:37:42 -0800, ???hw??f wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:58:55 GMT
> Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wasted precious bandwith with:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:16:46 -0600, in rec.arts.poems, "Dennis M.
>> Hammes" <scrawlmark@arvig.net> bloviated:
>>
>>>dave hillstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:03:19 -0800, Aratzio
>>><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:18:51 -0500, in the land of
>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom
>>><DaVe@MeOw.OrG>>>got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:21:23 GMT, Aratzio
>>><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, in
>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Aratzio
>>>>>>><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> bloviated:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for
>>>*good*>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Who cares about the history of beer you tards, the future of
>>>beer is>>>>EXPENSIVE! We must do something now. We must form a
>>>working group to>>>>discuss the ramificatios of the price and the
>>>negative impact by said>>>>price with respect to our daily
>>>budgets. What must we trim from our>>>>budget to insure an
>>>adequate BEER supply. Is there a Beer Futures>>>>market where we
>>>can make long term strategic buys to lock in current>>>>prices in
>>>the very changing Beer financial market. >>>>
>>>>>>>Stop discussing history, start planning the future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>TAKE BACK OUR BEER!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>theyre selling six packs of schlitz malt liquor at the quickie
>>>mart>>>for $3.99.
>>>>>
>>>>>They still make Shitz?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> dunno, but the strohs brewery certainly makes quite a bit of
>>>malt> liquor.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Stroh's resurrects almost /any/ old logo if there's enough call
>>>through the distribs. Remember "Billy Beer"?
>>> I even see Blatz back on the shelf on occasion.
>>
>> Old Frothingschloss (sp) "The stale pale ale with the head on the
>> bottom"
>>
>> When you see Regal Crown Select in quart bottles you know you have
>> hit the mother lode of nasty beer.
>>
> Old Millwakee is pretty horrid...

It's better than Millwaukee's Beast.

>
> Moose Drool isa micro brew here that gets accolades.

Moose Drool's a nice example of a brown ale. Maybe not world-class, but at
least as good as, say, Frankenheim, IMO.

The same brewery also makes "Slow Elk", which is a nice little oatmeal
stout. Either one is worth a try, but beware serving them at 'normal'
american beer temperatures, which are cold enough to suppress their
flavors.

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On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:13:03 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:04:23 -0500, in
>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
>bloviated:
>
>>On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:56:54 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:13:58 -0600, in rec.arts.poems, "Dennis M.
>>> Hammes" <scrawlmark@arvig.net> bloviated:
>>>
>>>>Aratzio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:18:51 -0500, in the land of
>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>>>>> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:21:23 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, in
>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Aratzio
>>>>>>><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> bloviated:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for *good*
>>>>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Who cares about the history of beer you tards, the future of beer is
>>>>>>>EXPENSIVE! We must do something now. We must form a working group to
>>>>>>>discuss the ramificatios of the price and the negative impact by said
>>>>>>>price with respect to our daily budgets. What must we trim from our
>>>>>>>budget to insure an adequate BEER supply. Is there a Beer Futures
>>>>>>>market where we can make long term strategic buys to lock in current
>>>>>>>prices in the very changing Beer financial market.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Stop discussing history, start planning the future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>TAKE BACK OUR BEER!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>theyre selling six packs of schlitz malt liquor at the quickie mart
>>>>>>for $3.99.
>>>>>
>>>>> They still make Shitz?
>>>>
>>>>"Teh Galaxy's Finest Malt Liquor!"
>>>
>>> ICK
>>>
>>> Next up a review of Pabst
>>>
>>> ICK
>>
>>Beast, man. Milwaukee's Best. By the (cheap) pitcher.
>
>Old Milwaukee
>
>ICK
>
>Red, White & Blue
>
>ICK

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Re: THE Humanity! Beer Prices Going UP while those fuckers who control the gasoline KEEP GETTING RICHER


"dave hillstrom" <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in message
news:1i9vr350re0vc7c94a4ip8l6v3hgtaupsd@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:13:03 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:04:23 -0500, in
>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
>>bloviated:
>>
>>>On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:56:54 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:13:58 -0600, in rec.arts.poems, "Dennis M.
>>>> Hammes" <scrawlmark@arvig.net> bloviated:
>>>>
>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:18:51 -0500, in the land of
>>>>>> alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>>>>>> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:21:23 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:22:01 GMT, in
>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Aratzio
>>>>>>>><a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> bloviated:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://www.mercurynews.com/foodheadlines/ci_8311983
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hop and Barley prices have increased dramatically, price for *good*
>>>>>>>>>beer is going up. Bud-water and Curs unaffected.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Who cares about the history of beer you tards, the future of beer is
>>>>>>>>EXPENSIVE! We must do something now. We must form a working group to
>>>>>>>>discuss the ramificatios of the price and the negative impact by
>>>>>>>>said
>>>>>>>>price with respect to our daily budgets. What must we trim from our
>>>>>>>>budget to insure an adequate BEER supply. Is there a Beer Futures
>>>>>>>>market where we can make long term strategic buys to lock in current
>>>>>>>>prices in the very changing Beer financial market.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Stop discussing history, start planning the future.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>TAKE BACK OUR BEER!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>theyre selling six packs of schlitz malt liquor at the quickie mart
>>>>>>>for $3.99.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They still make Shitz?
>>>>>
>>>>>"Teh Galaxy's Finest Malt Liquor!"
>>>>
>>>> ICK
>>>>
>>>> Next up a review of Pabst
>>>>
>>>> ICK
>>>
>>>Beast, man. Milwaukee's Best. By the (cheap) pitcher.
>>
>>Old Milwaukee
>>
>>ICK
>>
>>Red, White & Blue
>>
>>ICK
>
> NATIONAL BOHEMIAN, BALTIMORES BEER YEAH YEAH YEAH!!!!!!!!!
>
> NATI-BO GO GO GO!!!!!!!
>


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