the gift of life

Discussion in 'Chatter' started by Steve Leyland, Dec 9, 2007.

  1. -----WaRNinG not for the faint of heart-----

    i was shown this and had to share it, i know there is a lot of reading
    there but
    Please read before viewing picture - it's worth it!

    A picture began circulating in November. It should be 'The Picture of the
    Year,' or perhaps, 'Picture of the Decade.' It won't be. In fact,unless you
    obtained a copy of the US paper which published it, you probably would
    never have seen it.

    The picture is that of a 21-week-old unborn baby named Samuel Alexander
    Armas, who is being operated on by surgeon named Joseph Bruner.

    The baby was diagnosed with spina bifida and would not survive if removed
    from his mother's womb. Little Samuel's mother, Julie Armas, is an
    obstetrics nurse in Atlanta . She knew of Dr. Bruner's remarkable
    surgical procedure. Practicing at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in
    Nashville, he performs these special operations while the baby is still in
    the womb.

    During the procedure, the doctor removes the uterus via C-section and makes
    a small incision t o operate on the baby. As Dr.Bruner completed the
    surgery on Samuel, the little guy reached his tiny, but fully developed
    hand through the incision and firmly grasped the surgeon's finger.
    Dr.Bruner was reported as saying that when his finger was grasped, it was
    the most emotional moment of his life, and that for an instant during the
    procedure he was just frozen, totally immobile.

    The photograph captures this amazing event with perfect clarity. The
    editors titled the picture, 'Hand of Hope.' The text explaining the picture
    begins, 'The tiny hand of 21-week- old fetus Samuel Alexander Armas emerges
    from the mother's uterus to grasp the finger of Dr. Joseph Bruner as if
    thanking the doctor for the gift of life.'

    Little Samuel's mother said they 'wept for days' when they saw the picture.
    She said, 'The photo reminds us pregnancy isn't about disability or an
    illness, it's about a little person.' Samuel was born in perfect health,
    the operation 100 percent successful.< BR>
    Now see the actual picture, and it is awesome...incredible....and hey, pass
    it on. The world needs to see this one!

    http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7852/image0011os3.jpg

    --
    Steve Leyland
    mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41 Most Hated Usenetizen Of All Time#1
    Top Asshole on the Net#4 Usenet Ruiner#11 Lits Slut#1
    Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)

    =^MEOW MEOW ARMY^=

    Love has reasons that reason knows nothing of.
    ======================================================================
    "Oh, and by the by ... although it is not my particular responsibility
    to do so, I do nevertheless apologize for Mr. Leyland, who seems
    convinced that anyone who might pass by this doorway to our little
    gallery is a child rapist. In a sense, he is much like the ratty
    kitty he claims to be in his interminable signature line ... he
    wanders about and stops occassionally at the stoop here to spray and
    defecate, then moves on and is gone for a few days or so ... no doubt
    spraying, defecating and retching up hairballs elsewhere ... then
    returns to mark his "territory" again. I realise he is little more
    than a malodorous nusiance, but a nuisance nevertheless."

    HMS Victor Victorian, pedophile posting naked pictures of young boys,
    alt.fan.utb.naughty-boy
    ======================================================================
    "Warning to all:
    Steve Leyland is a trolling twat of the highest order. Killfile the muppet
    now and move on.
    Even the briefest of searches on his past UseNet posts will reveal the
    truth. You have been warned.
    *plonk*"

    bear, uk.rec.motorcycles
    ======================================================================
    "I didn't delete any part of your meaningless, pointless, worthless
    post in order to clearly demonstrate that you are the nemesis of
    Usenet: the crossposting, non-editing, diagram-creating worthless,
    dickless, brainless, gutless, mindless, ball-less, spineless, flaccid,
    obese, fish-belly pale, ugly, VD-ridden, moronic, bald, hunch-backed,
    flat-footed, odoriferous, obnoxious, fecal-smelling, buck-toothed,
    physically handicapped, fungus-infected, HIV positive, mud-packing,
    masturbating, whining, simpering, self-important, arrogant, egomaniacal
    POS that takes up more bandwidth than a despicable binary-poster, and
    for no apparent reason beyond seeing his own defecatory vomitus
    slithering down the screen in vile green rivulets."

    Admiral Halsey, alt.sailing.asa
    ======================================================================
    "I went to the Garden of Love,
    And saw what I never had seen;
    A Chapel was built in the midst,
    Where I used to play on the green.

    And the gates of this Chapel were shut
    And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
    So I turned to the Garden of Love
    That so many sweet flowers bore.

    And I saw it was filled with graves,
    And tombstones where flowers should be;
    And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
    And binding with briars my joys and desires."

    William Blake.
    ======================================================================
    "Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right
    includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive
    and impart information and ideas
    through any media and regardless of frontiers."
    Universal Declaration of Human Rights, article 19.
    ======================================================================
    "When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
    people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in deeds,
    not words, and make the land green again.
    They shall be known as Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the
    environment."


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    meow
     
  2. SNIPER }} } Recognized mental state of Schizoid Pedo Riske Toy (AKA Steve Leyland etc.)

    ))))))))))))) Schizoid Pedo Riske Toy ((((((((((((((((((((
    PEDOPHILE James Riske (aka Steve Leyland etc.)

    ==>> coward pedo James Riske... .. .
    Cross Post FLOODER *MI5 Persecution/MI5Victim*

    Schizoid pedo James Riske,
    ))(( Your conviction that you have lost touch with reality
    is TRUE!
    ))(( Your conviction that you are better than others
    is FALSE!
    ))(( Your conviction that others are out to get you
    is TRUE!
    ))(( Your Neglect of personal hygiene
    is natural for you.
    ))(( Your Strange statements or behavior
    is natural for you.
    ))(( Your Hallucinations and confusion
    is natural for you.
    ))(( There is no cure for your diagnosed
    Paranoid Schizophrenia

    HTH
    newbie SNIPER
    ______________________________________________________
    Usenet Supermarket ^^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^
    ================================================
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    Only the best just for Bubba - 100% guaranteed!
    PEDOPHILE James Riske
    AKA Steve Leyland prime AKA bobandcarole. . AKA Fred Hall..etc...
    ... AKA () Weakling SLUT () LEROY KNEVIL news:alt.flame.niggers
    AKA J(ohn|ane) Doe & George Orwell => nic Kiddy Porn collectors
    =================================================
    * Proof of meat juicy freshness *
    <> wrongfully considers being expert at 1mas?quer?ade of nics
    <> cross posts like a SISSY <> phoniness of a fat ass twit
    <> literacy of a moron <> diagnosed Paranoid Schizophrenia
    <> buffoonery of a Usenet loser <> masturbates to Kiddy Porn
    <> obvious low life loser in personal life <> threatens like a sissy
    <> continuous low life loser on Usenet <> pouts like a baby
    <> SQUEALS Like a Pig! <<= juicy & tender! fresh, never frozen..
    =================================================
    FREE *** fresh pedo meat sampler **
    The pitiful schizoid Pedophile James Riske foams from the mouth
    with lurid and vile posts regarding Sex and Children... ..
    ... .. . all over this newsgroup HERE: ... ..
    ... .. news:alt.flame.niggers
    Like elsewhere on Usenet, witness the crazed pedo Riske continue
    the charade and mas?quer?ade of nic posting scripted phony target nics
    and then posting self scripted attacking nics to the targets.
    Watch the insane pedo Riske use these self scripted Stooge nics:
    < > Riske stooge nic >>> LEROY KNEVIL
    < > Riske stooge nic >>> OGExtremeOne
    < > Riske stooge nic >>> ^tiligibar^
    < > Riske stooge nic >>> Mr.Wonderful
    Like elsewhere on the Usenet, witness the moron and crazed pedo
    James Riske use coward Usenet flood cross posts with frothing at the
    mouth intensity. And watch the insane James Riske spew out continuous
    vulgar and vile posts regarding sex with children. FRESH Riske pedo meat!
    ==================================================
     
  3. stupid pedo fanboi

    Once upon a time in a magickal land far far away the being called newbie
    SNIPER stirred from its deep slumber and pronounced to usenet:

    : ))))))))))))) Schizoid Pedo Riske Toy ((((((((((((((((((((
    : PEDOPHILE James Riske (aka Steve Leyland etc.)

    hahaha stupid pedo fanboi.
    aww, did I spank your child rapist froup, fuckhead?

    sniper eh?

    <aims red dot>
    BLAM.

    :
    : ==>> coward pedo James Riske... .. .
    : Cross Post FLOODER *MI5 Persecution/MI5Victim*
    :
    : Schizoid pedo James Riske,
    : ))(( Your conviction that you have lost touch with reality
    : is TRUE!
    : ))(( Your conviction that you are better than others
    : is FALSE!
    : ))(( Your conviction that others are out to get you
    : is TRUE!
    : ))(( Your Neglect of personal hygiene
    : is natural for you.
    : ))(( Your Strange statements or behavior
    : is natural for you.
    : ))(( Your Hallucinations and confusion
    : is natural for you.
    : ))(( There is no cure for your diagnosed
    : Paranoid Schizophrenia
    :
    : HTH
    : newbie SNIPER
    : ______________________________________________________
    : Usenet Supermarket ^^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^
    : ================================================
    : f r e s h meat for Bubba
    : Only the best just for Bubba - 100% guaranteed!
    : PEDOPHILE James Riske
    : AKA Steve Leyland prime AKA bobandcarole. . AKA Fred Hall..etc...
    : .. AKA () Weakling SLUT () LEROY KNEVIL news:alt.flame.niggers
    : AKA J(ohn|ane) Doe & George Orwell => nic Kiddy Porn collectors
    : =================================================
    : * Proof of meat juicy freshness *
    : <> wrongfully considers being expert at 1mas?quer?ade of nics
    : <> cross posts like a SISSY <> phoniness of a fat ass twit
    : <> literacy of a moron <> diagnosed Paranoid Schizophrenia
    : <> buffoonery of a Usenet loser <> masturbates to Kiddy Porn
    : <> obvious low life loser in personal life <> threatens like a
    : sissy <> continuous low life loser on Usenet <> pouts like a baby
    : <> SQUEALS Like a Pig! <<= juicy & tender! fresh, never frozen..
    : =================================================
    : FREE *** fresh pedo meat sampler **
    : The pitiful schizoid Pedophile James Riske foams from the mouth
    : with lurid and vile posts regarding Sex and Children... ..
    : ... .. . all over this newsgroup HERE: ... ..
    : ... .. news:alt.flame.niggers
    : Like elsewhere on Usenet, witness the crazed pedo Riske continue
    : the charade and mas?quer?ade of nic posting scripted phony target nics
    : and then posting self scripted attacking nics to the targets.
    : Watch the insane pedo Riske use these self scripted Stooge nics:
    : < > Riske stooge nic >>> LEROY KNEVIL
    : < > Riske stooge nic >>> OGExtremeOne
    : < > Riske stooge nic >>> ^tiligibar^
    : < > Riske stooge nic >>> Mr.Wonderful
    : Like elsewhere on the Usenet, witness the moron and crazed pedo
    : James Riske use coward Usenet flood cross posts with frothing at the
    : mouth intensity. And watch the insane James Riske spew out continuous
    : vulgar and vile posts regarding sex with children. FRESH Riske pedo
    : meat! ==================================================

    --
    Steve Leyland
    mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41 Most Hated Usenetizen Of All Time#1
    Top Asshole on the Net#4 Usenet Ruiner#11 Lits Slut#1
    Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)

    =^MEOW MEOW ARMY^=

    The past is present in the future.
    ======================================================================
    "Oh, and by the by ... although it is not my particular responsibility
    to do so, I do nevertheless apologize for Mr. Leyland, who seems
    convinced that anyone who might pass by this doorway to our little
    gallery is a child rapist. In a sense, he is much like the ratty
    kitty he claims to be in his interminable signature line ... he
    wanders about and stops occassionally at the stoop here to spray and
    defecate, then moves on and is gone for a few days or so ... no doubt
    spraying, defecating and retching up hairballs elsewhere ... then
    returns to mark his "territory" again. I realise he is little more
    than a malodorous nusiance, but a nuisance nevertheless."

    HMS Victor Victorian, pedophile posting naked pictures of young boys,
    alt.fan.utb.naughty-boy
    ======================================================================
    "Warning to all: Steve Leyland is a trolling twat of the highest order.
    Killfile the muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on
    his past UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been warned.
    *plonk*"

    bear, uk.rec.motorcycles
    ======================================================================
    "I didn't delete any part of your meaningless, pointless, worthless
    post in order to clearly demonstrate that you are the nemesis of
    Usenet: the crossposting, non-editing, diagram-creating worthless,
    dickless, brainless, gutless, mindless, ball-less, spineless, flaccid,
    obese, fish-belly pale, ugly, VD-ridden, moronic, bald, hunch-backed,
    flat-footed, odoriferous, obnoxious, fecal-smelling, buck-toothed,
    physically handicapped, fungus-infected, HIV positive, mud-packing,
    masturbating, whining, simpering, self-important, arrogant, egomaniacal
    POS that takes up more bandwidth than a despicable binary-poster, and
    for no apparent reason beyond seeing his own defecatory vomitus
    slithering down the screen in vile green rivulets."

    Admiral Halsey, alt.sailing.asa
    ======================================================================
    "I went to the Garden of Love,
    And saw what I never had seen;
    A Chapel was built in the midst,
    Where I used to play on the green.

    And the gates of this Chapel were shut
    And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
    So I turned to the Garden of Love
    That so many sweet flowers bore.

    And I saw it was filled with graves,
    And tombstones where flowers should be;
    And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
    And binding with briars my joys and desires."

    William Blake.
    ======================================================================
    ?Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this
    right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to
    seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and
    regardless of frontiers.? Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
    article 19.
    ======================================================================
    "When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
    people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
    deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known as
    Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."


    |\ _.-'~~""'~`'~)
    /, ~-,__,,,.'~ ,-;;--''
    |,4) ./ ' ; ;/'
    '-~~;'@ ( ; ;
    _.--'' _.-_..' .;.'
    (,_..----''' (,..--''


    meow
     
  4. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

    Steve Leyland wrote:
    > -----WaRNinG not for the faint of heart-----
    >
    > i was shown this and had to share it, i know there is a lot of reading
    > there but
    > Please read before viewing picture - it's worth it!
    >
    > A picture began circulating in November. It should be 'The Picture of the
    > Year,' or perhaps, 'Picture of the Decade.' It won't be. In fact,unless you
    > obtained a copy of the US paper which published it, you probably would
    > never have seen it.
    >
    > The picture is that of a 21-week-old unborn baby named Samuel Alexander
    > Armas, who is being operated on by surgeon named Joseph Bruner.
    >
    > The baby was diagnosed with spina bifida and would not survive if removed
    > from his mother's womb. Little Samuel's mother, Julie Armas, is an
    > obstetrics nurse in Atlanta . She knew of Dr. Bruner's remarkable
    > surgical procedure. Practicing at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in
    > Nashville, he performs these special operations while the baby is still in
    > the womb.
    >
    > During the procedure, the doctor removes the uterus via C-section and makes
    > a small incision t o operate on the baby. As Dr.Bruner completed the
    > surgery on Samuel, the little guy reached his tiny, but fully developed
    > hand through the incision and firmly grasped the surgeon's finger.
    > Dr.Bruner was reported as saying that when his finger was grasped, it was
    > the most emotional moment of his life, and that for an instant during the
    > procedure he was just frozen, totally immobile.
    >
    > The photograph captures this amazing event with perfect clarity. The
    > editors titled the picture, 'Hand of Hope.' The text explaining the picture
    > begins, 'The tiny hand of 21-week- old fetus Samuel Alexander Armas emerges
    > from the mother's uterus to grasp the finger of Dr. Joseph Bruner as if
    > thanking the doctor for the gift of life.'
    >
    > Little Samuel's mother said they 'wept for days' when they saw the picture.
    > She said, 'The photo reminds us pregnancy isn't about disability or an
    > illness, it's about a little person.' Samuel was born in perfect health,
    > the operation 100 percent successful.< BR>
    > Now see the actual picture, and it is awesome...incredible....and hey, pass
    > it on. The world needs to see this one!
    >
    > http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7852/image0011os3.jpg
    >

    So we're hacking into unanesthetized wimmins to have spiritual moments
    with unanesthetized fetusses living and breathing in uteri wot are
    "removed" (and presumably laying on a table in the next room or
    somesuch).

    hmmm.

    hmmm.

    Praise be.

    --
    nuts
     
  5. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:00:55 +0000, Steve Leyland wrote:

    > The picture is that of a 21-week-old unborn baby . . . .
    >
    > During the procedure, the doctor removes the uterus via C-section and
    > makes a small incision t o operate on the baby. As Dr.Bruner completed
    > the surgery on Samuel, the little guy reached his tiny, but fully
    > developed hand through the incision and firmly grasped the surgeon's
    > finger. Dr.Bruner was reported as saying that when his finger was
    > grasped, it was the most emotional moment of his life, and that for an
    > instant during the procedure he was just frozen, totally immobile.


    Take a look at the EEG at 21 weeks and then go on pretending there's any
    thinking at all going on . . . .

    You don't even get broad slow jellyfish-like waves until about seven
    months (ontogeny probably recapitulates phylogeny here, too).

    And the brain continues developing for a _year_ after birth-- it's the
    most complex organ _by far_-- at which point things finally start working
    well enough that learning to move around and talk become possible . . . .

    In short, based on EEG and anatomical studies and behavioral observation,
    the above in at least its implicit import is most politely and accurately
    described as "'pro-life' propaganda".

    As the expression "unborn baby" flags it at the very start.

    --
    tinmimus99@hotmail.com

    smeeter 11 or maybe 12

    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    Hoc est ratio?

    < Lucilius
     
  6. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

    mimus wrote:
    > On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:00:55 +0000, Steve Leyland wrote:
    >
    >>The picture is that of a 21-week-old unborn baby . . . .
    >>
    >>During the procedure, the doctor removes the uterus via C-section and
    >>makes a small incision t o operate on the baby. As Dr.Bruner completed
    >>the surgery on Samuel, the little guy reached his tiny, but fully
    >>developed hand through the incision and firmly grasped the surgeon's
    >>finger. Dr.Bruner was reported as saying that when his finger was
    >>grasped, it was the most emotional moment of his life, and that for an
    >>instant during the procedure he was just frozen, totally immobile.

    >
    > Take a look at the EEG at 21 weeks and then go on pretending there's any
    > thinking at all going on . . . .
    >
    > You don't even get broad slow jellyfish-like waves until about seven
    > months (ontogeny probably recapitulates phylogeny here, too).
    >
    > And the brain continues developing for a _year_ after birth-- it's the
    > most complex organ _by far_-- at which point things finally start working
    > well enough that learning to move around and talk become possible . . . .
    >
    > In short, based on EEG and anatomical studies and behavioral observation,
    > the above in at least its implicit import is most politely and accurately
    > described as "'pro-life' propaganda".
    >
    > As the expression "unborn baby" flags it at the very start.
    >

    Grilled cheese samwidges can change your life without developing an EEG.
    It's the way of miracles.

    snopes.com has the root story. I'd look up the link but I have to pee
    and go shopping.

    --
    nuts
     
  7. "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:7Z-dnYnGJJi5pcHanZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@giganews.com...
    > On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:00:55 +0000, Steve Leyland wrote:
    >
    > > The picture is that of a 21-week-old unborn baby . . . .
    > >
    > > During the procedure, the doctor removes the uterus via C-section and
    > > makes a small incision t o operate on the baby. As Dr.Bruner completed
    > > the surgery on Samuel, the little guy reached his tiny, but fully
    > > developed hand through the incision and firmly grasped the surgeon's
    > > finger. Dr.Bruner was reported as saying that when his finger was
    > > grasped, it was the most emotional moment of his life, and that for an
    > > instant during the procedure he was just frozen, totally immobile.

    >
    > Take a look at the EEG at 21 weeks and then go on pretending there's any
    > thinking at all going on . . . .
    >
    > You don't even get broad slow jellyfish-like waves until about seven
    > months (ontogeny probably recapitulates phylogeny here, too).
    >
    > And the brain continues developing for a _year_ after birth-- it's the
    > most complex organ _by far_-- at which point things finally start working
    > well enough that learning to move around and talk become possible . . . .
    >
    > In short, based on EEG and anatomical studies and behavioral observation,
    > the above in at least its implicit import is most politely and accurately
    > described as "'pro-life' propaganda".
    >
    > As the expression "unborn baby" flags it at the very start.


    Some things go beyond the technical, mimus. You'd do well to remember that.

    Smee

    >
    > --
    > tinmimus99@hotmail.com
    >
    > smeeter 11 or maybe 12
    >
    > mp 10
    >
    > mhm 29x13
    >
    > Hoc est ratio?
    >
    > < Lucilius
    >
     
  8. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

    pscissons@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    > "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:7Z-dnYnGJJi5pcHanZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@giganews.com...
    >
    >>On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:00:55 +0000, Steve Leyland wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>The picture is that of a 21-week-old unborn baby . . . .
    >>>
    >>>During the procedure, the doctor removes the uterus via C-section and
    >>>makes a small incision t o operate on the baby. As Dr.Bruner completed
    >>>the surgery on Samuel, the little guy reached his tiny, but fully
    >>>developed hand through the incision and firmly grasped the surgeon's
    >>>finger. Dr.Bruner was reported as saying that when his finger was
    >>>grasped, it was the most emotional moment of his life, and that for an
    >>>instant during the procedure he was just frozen, totally immobile.

    >>
    >>Take a look at the EEG at 21 weeks and then go on pretending there's any
    >>thinking at all going on . . . .
    >>
    >>You don't even get broad slow jellyfish-like waves until about seven
    >>months (ontogeny probably recapitulates phylogeny here, too).
    >>
    >>And the brain continues developing for a _year_ after birth-- it's the
    >>most complex organ _by far_-- at which point things finally start working
    >>well enough that learning to move around and talk become possible . . . .
    >>
    >>In short, based on EEG and anatomical studies and behavioral observation,
    >>the above in at least its implicit import is most politely and accurately
    >>described as "'pro-life' propaganda".
    >>
    >>As the expression "unborn baby" flags it at the very start.

    >
    > Some things go beyond the technical, mimus. You'd do well to remember that.
    >
    > Smee
    >


    And sometimes they're just made-up crap:

    "Some opponents of abortion have claimed that the baby reached through
    the womb and grabbed the doctor's hand."

    "Not true", Bruner says. "Samuel and his mother, Julie, were under
    anesthesia and could not move"

    "The baby did not reach out", Bruner says. "The baby was anesthetized.
    The baby was not aware of what was going on".

    http://www.snopes.com/photos/medical/thehand.asp

    Lyin' for baaaaybe Jeeeezus. - Itsagoodthing.

    --
    nuts
     
  9. Aratzio

    Aratzio Guest

    On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:51:51 GMT, in
    alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, <pscissons@sbcglobal.net>
    bloviated:

    >
    >"mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >news:7Z-dnYnGJJi5pcHanZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@giganews.com...
    >> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:00:55 +0000, Steve Leyland wrote:
    >>
    >> > The picture is that of a 21-week-old unborn baby . . . .
    >> >
    >> > During the procedure, the doctor removes the uterus via C-section and
    >> > makes a small incision t o operate on the baby. As Dr.Bruner completed
    >> > the surgery on Samuel, the little guy reached his tiny, but fully
    >> > developed hand through the incision and firmly grasped the surgeon's
    >> > finger. Dr.Bruner was reported as saying that when his finger was
    >> > grasped, it was the most emotional moment of his life, and that for an
    >> > instant during the procedure he was just frozen, totally immobile.

    >>
    >> Take a look at the EEG at 21 weeks and then go on pretending there's any
    >> thinking at all going on . . . .
    >>
    >> You don't even get broad slow jellyfish-like waves until about seven
    >> months (ontogeny probably recapitulates phylogeny here, too).
    >>
    >> And the brain continues developing for a _year_ after birth-- it's the
    >> most complex organ _by far_-- at which point things finally start working
    >> well enough that learning to move around and talk become possible . . . .
    >>
    >> In short, based on EEG and anatomical studies and behavioral observation,
    >> the above in at least its implicit import is most politely and accurately
    >> described as "'pro-life' propaganda".
    >>
    >> As the expression "unborn baby" flags it at the very start.

    >
    >Some things go beyond the technical, mimus. You'd do well to remember that.
    >
    >Smee


    Yet MOST things are exactly as explained *technically*.

    If this were a rhesus monkey would people ascribe the same level of
    miracle?
     
  10. Pisano

    Pisano Guest

    On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:25:34 GMT, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
    wrote:

    >On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:51:51 GMT, in
    >alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, <pscissons@sbcglobal.net>
    >bloviated:
    >
    >>
    >>"mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>news:7Z-dnYnGJJi5pcHanZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@giganews.com...
    >>> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:00:55 +0000, Steve Leyland wrote:
    >>>
    >>> > The picture is that of a 21-week-old unborn baby . . . .
    >>> >
    >>> > During the procedure, the doctor removes the uterus via C-section and
    >>> > makes a small incision t o operate on the baby. As Dr.Bruner completed
    >>> > the surgery on Samuel, the little guy reached his tiny, but fully
    >>> > developed hand through the incision and firmly grasped the surgeon's
    >>> > finger. Dr.Bruner was reported as saying that when his finger was
    >>> > grasped, it was the most emotional moment of his life, and that for an
    >>> > instant during the procedure he was just frozen, totally immobile.
    >>>
    >>> Take a look at the EEG at 21 weeks and then go on pretending there's any
    >>> thinking at all going on . . . .
    >>>
    >>> You don't even get broad slow jellyfish-like waves until about seven
    >>> months (ontogeny probably recapitulates phylogeny here, too).
    >>>
    >>> And the brain continues developing for a _year_ after birth-- it's the
    >>> most complex organ _by far_-- at which point things finally start working
    >>> well enough that learning to move around and talk become possible . . . .
    >>>
    >>> In short, based on EEG and anatomical studies and behavioral observation,
    >>> the above in at least its implicit import is most politely and accurately
    >>> described as "'pro-life' propaganda".
    >>>
    >>> As the expression "unborn baby" flags it at the very start.

    >>
    >>Some things go beyond the technical, mimus. You'd do well to remember that.
    >>
    >>Smee

    >
    >Yet MOST things are exactly as explained *technically*.
    >
    >If this were a rhesus monkey would people ascribe the same level of
    >miracle?



    Apparently you wouldn't.
     
  11. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:51:51 +0000, pscissons wrote:

    > "mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:7Z-dnYnGJJi5pcHanZ2dnUVZ_umlnZ2d@giganews.com...
    >
    >> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:00:55 +0000, Steve Leyland wrote:
    >>
    >> > The picture is that of a 21-week-old unborn baby . . . .
    >> >
    >> > During the procedure, the doctor removes the uterus via C-section and
    >> > makes a small incision t o operate on the baby. As Dr.Bruner completed
    >> > the surgery on Samuel, the little guy reached his tiny, but fully
    >> > developed hand through the incision and firmly grasped the surgeon's
    >> > finger. Dr.Bruner was reported as saying that when his finger was
    >> > grasped, it was the most emotional moment of his life, and that for an
    >> > instant during the procedure he was just frozen, totally immobile.

    >>
    >> Take a look at the EEG at 21 weeks and then go on pretending there's any
    >> thinking at all going on . . . .
    >>
    >> You don't even get broad slow jellyfish-like waves until about seven
    >> months (ontogeny probably recapitulates phylogeny here, too).
    >>
    >> And the brain continues developing for a _year_ after birth-- it's the
    >> most complex organ _by far_-- at which point things finally start working
    >> well enough that learning to move around and talk become possible . . . .
    >>
    >> In short, based on EEG and anatomical studies and behavioral observation,
    >> the above in at least its implicit import is most politely and accurately
    >> described as "'pro-life' propaganda".
    >>
    >> As the expression "unborn baby" flags it at the very start.

    >
    > Some things go beyond the technical, mimus. You'd do well to remember that.


    Yeah, they're called "lies".

    --
    tinmimus99@hotmail.com

    smeeter 11 or maybe 12

    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    You want a job and a lizard to ride?

    < _The Einstein Intersection_
     
  12. BuZZard

    BuZZard Guest

    "Steve Leyland" <steveREMOVEDOTINVALIDTOREPLY@meow.org.invalid> wrote in
    message news:fjg3rc$jac$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
    > -----WaRNinG not for the faint of heart-----
    >
    > i was shown this and had to share it, i know there is a lot of reading
    > there but
    > Please read before viewing picture - it's worth it!
    >
    > A picture began circulating in November. It should be 'The Picture of the
    > Year,' or perhaps, 'Picture of the Decade.' It won't be. In fact,unless
    > you
    > obtained a copy of the US paper which published it, you probably would
    > never have seen it.
    >
    > The picture is that of a 21-week-old unborn baby named Samuel Alexander
    > Armas, who is being operated on by surgeon named Joseph Bruner.
    >
    > The baby was diagnosed with spina bifida and would not survive if removed
    > from his mother's womb. Little Samuel's mother, Julie Armas, is an
    > obstetrics nurse in Atlanta . She knew of Dr. Bruner's remarkable
    > surgical procedure. Practicing at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in
    > Nashville, he performs these special operations while the baby is still in
    > the womb.
    >
    > During the procedure, the doctor removes the uterus via C-section and
    > makes
    > a small incision t o operate on the baby. As Dr.Bruner completed the
    > surgery on Samuel, the little guy reached his tiny, but fully developed
    > hand through the incision and firmly grasped the surgeon's finger.
    > Dr.Bruner was reported as saying that when his finger was grasped, it was
    > the most emotional moment of his life, and that for an instant during the
    > procedure he was just frozen, totally immobile.
    >
    > The photograph captures this amazing event with perfect clarity. The
    > editors titled the picture, 'Hand of Hope.' The text explaining the
    > picture
    > begins, 'The tiny hand of 21-week- old fetus Samuel Alexander Armas
    > emerges
    > from the mother's uterus to grasp the finger of Dr. Joseph Bruner as if
    > thanking the doctor for the gift of life.'
    >
    > Little Samuel's mother said they 'wept for days' when they saw the
    > picture.
    > She said, 'The photo reminds us pregnancy isn't about disability or an
    > illness, it's about a little person.' Samuel was born in perfect health,
    > the operation 100 percent successful.< BR>
    > Now see the actual picture, and it is awesome...incredible....and hey,
    > pass
    > it on. The world needs to see this one!
    >
    > http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7852/image0011os3.jpg
    >


    awww.. that baby was reaching for its first doobie.
     

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