The Bastards Killed Benazir Bhutto

On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:07:33 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:

> mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:HrOdnfnqVKOvvODanZ2dnUVZ_r6rnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
>> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:17:10 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
>>
>>> mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:GqydnS2YW4rMx-nanZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:56:53 -0500, mimus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:11:41 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim Weaver <tmw99999leavemealone@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:Xns9A13BDBCB57830Z0thecheeseclub0Z0@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mimus wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the
>>>>>>>> "frontier" regions to either cooperate with destroying the
> Taliban
>>>>>>>> and al Qaeda there or he'll allow the Americans (who are more
> than
>>>>>>>> irritated with those regions serving as sanctuaries for said
>>>>>>>> assholes) in there from Afghanistan . . . .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Go clean up that tribal area.
>>>>>>> 2) Let us do it.
>>>>>>> 3) We'll do it, together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads to
>>>>>>> option four.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt
> quite
>>>>>>>> cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more
> than
>>>>>>>> credible threat.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would be interesting for sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my thought on Musharraf is this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> he is an American sponsored former coo leader and
>>>>>> now dictator.
>>>>>
>>>>> He's getting big bucks from China, now, too, apparently.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note he didn't move against the "Red Mosque" and its kidnappings in
>>>>> the capital itself of people for "trial" under "Islamic law"--
> think
>>>>> of some church near you starting to kidnap people and put them on
>>>>> "trial" under the Old Testament-- until they kidnapped some Chinese
> .
>>>>> . . .
>>>>>
>>>>>> why work with him
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, there was Benazir Bhutto . . . .
>>>>>
>>>>> And the other major opposition figure is head of the "Pakistan
> Muslim
>>>>> League-N"-- I don't know what the "N" stands for, but I infer from
>>>>> the "Muslim" that the PML-N or maybe (N) is not exactly a
> secularist
>>>>> party.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know why it is that there doesn't seem to be anyone else in
>>>>> Bhutto's party, the Pakistan People's Party, that is able to
> command
>>>>> attention.
>>>>>
>>>>> Surely they've got a few ex-military-officers that know that if no
>>>>> one else is going to do it, you gotta do it ("Oh, _no_") (I presume
>>>>> the Pakistani Army teaches its officer cadets that, regardless of
>>>>> whatever kind of political and/or incompetent and/or corrupt mess
> the
>>>>> Army actually is).
>>>>>
>>>>>> principles suck when they are neither black nor white
>>>>>
>>>>> Americans get hardened to the "the least of evils" argument every
>>>>> Election Day . . . .
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, actually, a lot of them stay home and get drunk.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the choice between a relatively mild dictator and
>>>>> something/anything like Saudi Arabia and their moral offspring the
>>>>> Taliban, that's no choice:
>>>>>
>>>>> Work with the dictator to scrag the theocrats, and then lushly
>>>>> pension the dictator off.
>>>>
>>>> Here's a neat glimpse of Life on the Afghani-Pakistani Frontier I
> just
>>>> ran across-- the English is a little shaky but the picture is still
>>>> clear enough to be appalling:
>>>>
>>>> "PARACHINAR: Two FC personnel among thirteen Taliban killed while
>>>> twenty two others sustained serious injuries in the ongoing shootout
>>>> at different places sources said on Wednesday. So far fifteen
> persons
>>>> had been killed with forty other injured in the interne sign among
> the
>>>> warring groups in the area. Till now thirteen Taliban are said to
> have
>>>> been killed among fifty one others and ninety five individuals have
>>>> received serious wounds in the battle. According to the details
> fierce
>>>> fighting is continuing at Sada, Khar Kalay, Balish Khel, Sangeena ,
>>>> Alizai, Tungi, Chardewaal, Bagan, Makhezai, Mengak, Maqbal,
>>>> Kanjalizai, Satikot, Terimangal and Pevaar, heavy weapons including
>>>> martor guns, missiles, Rocket Launchers and Machine Guns are being
>>>> used freely from both sides, while the government is like a silent
>>>> spectator over the bloody clashes. The sources added that on Tuesday
>>>> night hundreds of Taliban hailing from Waziristan agency attacking
> at
>>>> Alizai, Tungi, Chardewaal, Mengak areas where Turi tribesmen are
>>>> residing suffered heavy loss at the hands of the Turi tribesmen
> while
>>>> retaliating the charging Taliban on there respective areas."
>>>>
>>>> http://www.thefrontierpost.com/News.aspx?ncat=ts&nid=696
>>>>
>>>> Sounds very much like the Taliban are attempting to conquer another
>>>> tribal area there, and things aren't going so well for them quite at
>>>> this moment.
>>>>
>>>> It also sounds, rather shockingly, like the Pakistani Army is
> refusing
>>>> to assist those tribesmen, at least with boots on the ground,
> although
>>>> it also sounds like those tribesmen are at least as loaded for bear
> as
>>>> the Taliban are, wot they have to be getting that stuff from
>>>> somewhere.
>>>>
>>>> Still, air-support would be nice. A lick or two of artillery.
> Those
>>>> little touches that can turn a fight.
>>>>
>>>> Even though that means someone smert enough to be able to work out
>>>> coordinates on a map and use a radio has to get close enough to see
> .
>>>> . . .
>>>>
>>>> Traditionally either a sergeant or a second lieutenant . . . .
>>>
>>> oh my
>>>
>>> big new year
>>>
>>> ability to maintain a serious conversation impaired.
>>
>> O-K
>>
>> WHERE, ACCORDING TO THE LETTERS AND THE NUMBERS ON THE SIDES OF THE
> MAP,
>> DO YOU THINK YOU ARE
>>
>> OVER
>
> am i on earth?

What color is teh sky?

--
tinmimus99@hotmail.com

smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

I wonder what I have been up to.

< _Beyond Apollo_

 

mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:cpidnXVyA6UyyODanZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d@giganews.com:

> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:07:33 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
>
>> mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:HrOdnfnqVKOvvODanZ2dnUVZ_r6rnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>
>>> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:17:10 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
>>>
>>>> mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:GqydnS2YW4rMx-nanZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:56:53 -0500, mimus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:11:41 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim Weaver <tmw99999leavemealone@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:Xns9A13BDBCB57830Z0thecheeseclub0Z0
@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mimus wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the
>>>>>>>>> "frontier" regions to either cooperate with destroying the
>> Taliban
>>>>>>>>> and al Qaeda there or he'll allow the Americans (who are more
>> than
>>>>>>>>> irritated with those regions serving as sanctuaries for said
>>>>>>>>> assholes) in there from Afghanistan . . . .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Go clean up that tribal area.
>>>>>>>> 2) Let us do it.
>>>>>>>> 3) We'll do it, together.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads
to
>>>>>>>> option four.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt
>> quite
>>>>>>>>> cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more
>> than
>>>>>>>>> credible threat.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would be interesting for sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my thought on Musharraf is this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> he is an American sponsored former coo leader and
>>>>>>> now dictator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He's getting big bucks from China, now, too, apparently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note he didn't move against the "Red Mosque" and its kidnappings
in
>>>>>> the capital itself of people for "trial" under "Islamic law"--
>> think
>>>>>> of some church near you starting to kidnap people and put them on
>>>>>> "trial" under the Old Testament-- until they kidnapped some
Chinese
>> .
>>>>>> . . .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> why work with him
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, there was Benazir Bhutto . . . .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the other major opposition figure is head of the "Pakistan
>> Muslim
>>>>>> League-N"-- I don't know what the "N" stands for, but I infer
from
>>>>>> the "Muslim" that the PML-N or maybe (N) is not exactly a
>> secularist
>>>>>> party.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know why it is that there doesn't seem to be anyone else
in
>>>>>> Bhutto's party, the Pakistan People's Party, that is able to
>> command
>>>>>> attention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Surely they've got a few ex-military-officers that know that if
no
>>>>>> one else is going to do it, you gotta do it ("Oh, _no_") (I
presume
>>>>>> the Pakistani Army teaches its officer cadets that, regardless of
>>>>>> whatever kind of political and/or incompetent and/or corrupt mess
>> the
>>>>>> Army actually is).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> principles suck when they are neither black nor white
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Americans get hardened to the "the least of evils" argument every
>>>>>> Election Day . . . .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, actually, a lot of them stay home and get drunk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for the choice between a relatively mild dictator and
>>>>>> something/anything like Saudi Arabia and their moral offspring
the
>>>>>> Taliban, that's no choice:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Work with the dictator to scrag the theocrats, and then lushly
>>>>>> pension the dictator off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a neat glimpse of Life on the Afghani-Pakistani Frontier I
>> just
>>>>> ran across-- the English is a little shaky but the picture is
still
>>>>> clear enough to be appalling:
>>>>>
>>>>> "PARACHINAR: Two FC personnel among thirteen Taliban killed while
>>>>> twenty two others sustained serious injuries in the ongoing
shootout
>>>>> at different places sources said on Wednesday. So far fifteen
>> persons
>>>>> had been killed with forty other injured in the interne sign among
>> the
>>>>> warring groups in the area. Till now thirteen Taliban are said to
>> have
>>>>> been killed among fifty one others and ninety five individuals
have
>>>>> received serious wounds in the battle. According to the details
>> fierce
>>>>> fighting is continuing at Sada, Khar Kalay, Balish Khel, Sangeena
,
>>>>> Alizai, Tungi, Chardewaal, Bagan, Makhezai, Mengak, Maqbal,
>>>>> Kanjalizai, Satikot, Terimangal and Pevaar, heavy weapons
including
>>>>> martor guns, missiles, Rocket Launchers and Machine Guns are being
>>>>> used freely from both sides, while the government is like a silent
>>>>> spectator over the bloody clashes. The sources added that on
Tuesday
>>>>> night hundreds of Taliban hailing from Waziristan agency attacking
>> at
>>>>> Alizai, Tungi, Chardewaal, Mengak areas where Turi tribesmen are
>>>>> residing suffered heavy loss at the hands of the Turi tribesmen
>> while
>>>>> retaliating the charging Taliban on there respective areas."
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.thefrontierpost.com/News.aspx?ncat=ts&nid=696
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds very much like the Taliban are attempting to conquer
another
>>>>> tribal area there, and things aren't going so well for them quite
at
>>>>> this moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> It also sounds, rather shockingly, like the Pakistani Army is
>> refusing
>>>>> to assist those tribesmen, at least with boots on the ground,
>> although
>>>>> it also sounds like those tribesmen are at least as loaded for
bear
>> as
>>>>> the Taliban are, wot they have to be getting that stuff from
>>>>> somewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still, air-support would be nice. A lick or two of artillery.
>> Those
>>>>> little touches that can turn a fight.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even though that means someone smert enough to be able to work out
>>>>> coordinates on a map and use a radio has to get close enough to
see
>> .
>>>>> . . .
>>>>>
>>>>> Traditionally either a sergeant or a second lieutenant . . . .
>>>>
>>>> oh my
>>>>
>>>> big new year
>>>>
>>>> ability to maintain a serious conversation impaired.
>>>
>>> O-K
>>>
>>> WHERE, ACCORDING TO THE LETTERS AND THE NUMBERS ON THE SIDES OF THE
>> MAP,
>>> DO YOU THINK YOU ARE
>>>
>>> OVER
>>
>> am i on earth?
>
> What color is teh sky?
>
red


headkase

 

psykoexgirlfriend wrote:

> mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:cpidnXVyA6UyyODanZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
>> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:07:33 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
>>
>>> mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:HrOdnfnqVKOvvODanZ2dnUVZ_r6rnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:17:10 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:GqydnS2YW4rMx-nanZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:56:53 -0500, mimus wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:11:41 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tim Weaver <tmw99999leavemealone@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:Xns9A13BDBCB57830Z0thecheeseclub0Z0
>>>>>>>> @comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mimus wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the
>>>>>>>>>> "frontier" regions to either cooperate with destroying the
>>>>>>>>>> Taliban and al Qaeda there or he'll allow the Americans (who
>>>>>>>>>> are more than irritated with those regions serving as
>>>>>>>>>> sanctuaries for said assholes) in there from Afghanistan . . .
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1) Go clean up that tribal area.
>>>>>>>>> 2) Let us do it.
>>>>>>>>> 3) We'll do it, together.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads
>>>>>>>>> to option four.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt
>>>>>>>>>> quite cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a
>>>>>>>>>> more than credible threat.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It would be interesting for sure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> my thought on Musharraf is this
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> he is an American sponsored former coo leader and now dictator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He's getting big bucks from China, now, too, apparently.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note he didn't move against the "Red Mosque" and its kidnappings
>>>>>>> in the capital itself of people for "trial" under "Islamic law"--
>>>>>>> think of some church near you starting to kidnap people and put
>>>>>>> them on "trial" under the Old Testament-- until they kidnapped
>>>>>>> some Chinese . . . .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> why work with him
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, there was Benazir Bhutto . . . .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the other major opposition figure is head of the "Pakistan
>>>>>>> Muslim League-N"-- I don't know what the "N" stands for, but I
>>>>>>> infer from the "Muslim" that the PML-N or maybe (N) is not
>>>>>>> exactly a secularist party.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know why it is that there doesn't seem to be anyone else
>>>>>>> in Bhutto's party, the Pakistan People's Party, that is able to
>>>>>>> command attention.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Surely they've got a few ex-military-officers that know that if
>>>>>>> no one else is going to do it, you gotta do it ("Oh, _no_") (I
>>>>>>> presume the Pakistani Army teaches its officer cadets that,
>>>>>>> regardless of whatever kind of political and/or incompetent and/or
>>>>>>> corrupt mess the Army actually is).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> principles suck when they are neither black nor white
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Americans get hardened to the "the least of evils" argument every
>>>>>>> Election Day . . . .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, actually, a lot of them stay home and get drunk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for the choice between a relatively mild dictator and
>>>>>>> something/anything like Saudi Arabia and their moral offspring
>>>>>>> the Taliban, that's no choice:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Work with the dictator to scrag the theocrats, and then lushly
>>>>>>> pension the dictator off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a neat glimpse of Life on the Afghani-Pakistani Frontier I
>>>>>> just ran across-- the English is a little shaky but the picture is
>>>>>> still clear enough to be appalling:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "PARACHINAR: Two FC personnel among thirteen Taliban killed while
>>>>>> twenty two others sustained serious injuries in the ongoing
>>>>>> shootout at different places sources said on Wednesday. So far
>>>>>> fifteen persons had been killed with forty other injured in the
>>>>>> interne sign among the warring groups in the area. Till now
>>>>>> thirteen Taliban are said to have been killed among fifty one
>>>>>> others and ninety five individuals have received serious wounds in
>>>>>> the battle. According to the details fierce fighting is continuing
>>>>>> at Sada, Khar Kalay, Balish Khel, Sangeena , Alizai, Tungi,
>>>>>> Chardewaal, Bagan, Makhezai, Mengak, Maqbal, Kanjalizai, Satikot,
>>>>>> Terimangal and Pevaar, heavy weapons including martor guns,
>>>>>> missiles, Rocket Launchers and Machine Guns are being used freely
>>>>>> from both sides, while the government is like a silent spectator
>>>>>> over the bloody clashes. The sources added that on Tuesday night
>>>>>> hundreds of Taliban hailing from Waziristan agency attacking at
>>>>>> Alizai, Tungi, Chardewaal, Mengak areas where Turi tribesmen are
>>>>>> residing suffered heavy loss at the hands of the Turi tribesmen
>>>>>> while retaliating the charging Taliban on there respective areas."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.thefrontierpost.com/News.aspx?ncat=ts&nid=696
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds very much like the Taliban are attempting to conquer
>>>>>> another tribal area there, and things aren't going so well for them
>>>>>> quite at this moment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It also sounds, rather shockingly, like the Pakistani Army is
>>>>>> refusing to assist those tribesmen, at least with boots on the
>>>>>> ground, although it also sounds like those tribesmen are at least
>>>>>> as loaded for bear as the Taliban are, wot they have to be
>>>>>> getting that stuff from somewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still, air-support would be nice. A lick or two of artillery.
>>>>>> Those little touches that can turn a fight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even though that means someone smert enough to be able to work out
>>>>>> coordinates on a map and use a radio has to get close enough to
>>>>>> see . . . .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Traditionally either a sergeant or a second lieutenant . . . .
>>>>>
>>>>> oh my
>>>>>
>>>>> big new year
>>>>>
>>>>> ability to maintain a serious conversation impaired.
>>>>
>>>> O-K
>>>>
>>>> WHERE, ACCORDING TO THE LETTERS AND THE NUMBERS ON THE SIDES OF THE
>>>> MAP, DO YOU THINK YOU ARE
>>>>
>>>> OVER
>>>
>>> am i on earth?
>>
>> What color is teh sky?
>>
> red

Perhaps you are inside of Jupiter, looking out.
--
Tim Weaver

I know you believe you understand what you think I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not
what I meant.

 

On Jan 4, 1:42 pm, Tim Weaver <tmw99999leavemeal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
> > mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >news:cpidnXVyA6UyyODanZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
> >> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:07:33 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
>
> >>> mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >>>news:HrOdnfnqVKOvvODanZ2dnUVZ_r6rnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
> >>>> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:17:10 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
>
> >>>>> mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >>>>>news:GqydnS2YW4rMx-nanZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
> >>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:56:53 -0500, mimus wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:11:41 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> Tim Weaver <tmw99999leavemeal...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>>> news:Xns9A13BDBCB57830Z0thecheeseclub0Z0
> >>>>>>>> @comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>
> >>>>>>>>> mimus wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the
> >>>>>>>>>> "frontier" regions to either cooperate with destroying the
> >>>>>>>>>> Taliban and al Qaeda there or he'll allow the Americans (who
> >>>>>>>>>> are more than irritated with those regions serving as
> >>>>>>>>>> sanctuaries for said assholes) in there from Afghanistan . . .
> >>>>>>>>>> .
>
> >>>>>>>>> My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>
> >>>>>>>>> 1) Go clean up that tribal area.
> >>>>>>>>> 2) Let us do it.
> >>>>>>>>> 3) We'll do it, together.
>
> >>>>>>>>> Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads
> >>>>>>>>> to option four.
>
> >>>>>>>>> 4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt
> >>>>>>>>>> quite cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a
> >>>>>>>>>> more than credible threat.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>
> >>>>>>>>> It would be interesting for sure.
>
> >>>>>>>> my thought on Musharraf is this
>
> >>>>>>>> he is an American sponsored former coo leader and now dictator.
>
> >>>>>>> He's getting big bucks from China, now, too, apparently.
>
> >>>>>>> Note he didn't move against the "Red Mosque" and its kidnappings
> >>>>>>> in the capital itself of people for "trial" under "Islamic law"--
> >>>>>>> think of some church near you starting to kidnap people and put
> >>>>>>> them on "trial" under the Old Testament-- until they kidnapped
> >>>>>>> some Chinese . . . .
>
> >>>>>>>> why work with him
>
> >>>>>>> Well, there was Benazir Bhutto . . . .
>
> >>>>>>> And the other major opposition figure is head of the "Pakistan
> >>>>>>> Muslim League-N"-- I don't know what the "N" stands for, but I
> >>>>>>> infer from the "Muslim" that the PML-N or maybe (N) is not
> >>>>>>> exactly a secularist party.
>
> >>>>>>> I don't know why it is that there doesn't seem to be anyone else
> >>>>>>> in Bhutto's party, the Pakistan People's Party, that is able to
> >>>>>>> command attention.
>
> >>>>>>> Surely they've got a few ex-military-officers that know that if
> >>>>>>> no one else is going to do it, you gotta do it ("Oh, _no_") (I
> >>>>>>> presume the Pakistani Army teaches its officer cadets that,
> >>>>>>> regardless of whatever kind of political and/or incompetent and/or
> >>>>>>> corrupt mess the Army actually is).
>
> >>>>>>>> principles suck when they are neither black nor white
>
> >>>>>>> Americans get hardened to the "the least of evils" argument every
> >>>>>>> Election Day . . . .
>
> >>>>>>> Well, actually, a lot of them stay home and get drunk.
>
> >>>>>>> Apparently.
>
> >>>>>>> As for the choice between a relatively mild dictator and
> >>>>>>> something/anything like Saudi Arabia and their moral offspring
> >>>>>>> the Taliban, that's no choice:
>
> >>>>>>> Work with the dictator to scrag the theocrats, and then lushly
> >>>>>>> pension the dictator off.
>
> >>>>>> Here's a neat glimpse of Life on the Afghani-Pakistani Frontier I
> >>>>>> just ran across-- the English is a little shaky but the picture is
> >>>>>> still clear enough to be appalling:
>
> >>>>>> "PARACHINAR: Two FC personnel among thirteen Taliban killed while
> >>>>>> twenty two others sustained serious injuries in the ongoing
> >>>>>> shootout at different places sources said on Wednesday. So far
> >>>>>> fifteen persons had been killed with forty other injured in the
> >>>>>> interne sign among the warring groups in the area. Till now
> >>>>>> thirteen Taliban are said to have been killed among fifty one
> >>>>>> others and ninety five individuals have received serious wounds in
> >>>>>> the battle. According to the details fierce fighting is continuing
> >>>>>> at Sada, Khar Kalay, Balish Khel, Sangeena , Alizai, Tungi,
> >>>>>> Chardewaal, Bagan, Makhezai, Mengak, Maqbal, Kanjalizai, Satikot,
> >>>>>> Terimangal and Pevaar, heavy weapons including martor guns,
> >>>>>> missiles, Rocket Launchers and Machine Guns are being used freely
> >>>>>> from both sides, while the government is like a silent spectator
> >>>>>> over the bloody clashes. The sources added that on Tuesday night
> >>>>>> hundreds of Taliban hailing from Waziristan agency attacking at
> >>>>>> Alizai, Tungi, Chardewaal, Mengak areas where Turi tribesmen are
> >>>>>> residing suffered heavy loss at the hands of the Turi tribesmen
> >>>>>> while retaliating the charging Taliban on there respective areas."
>
> >>>>>>http://www.thefrontierpost.com/News.aspx?ncat=ts&nid=696
>
> >>>>>> Sounds very much like the Taliban are attempting to conquer
> >>>>>> another tribal area there, and things aren't going so well for them
> >>>>>> quite at this moment.
>
> >>>>>> It also sounds, rather shockingly, like the Pakistani Army is
> >>>>>> refusing to assist those tribesmen, at least with boots on the
> >>>>>> ground, although it also sounds like those tribesmen are at least
> >>>>>> as loaded for bear as the Taliban are, wot they have to be
> >>>>>> getting that stuff from somewhere.
>
> >>>>>> Still, air-support would be nice. A lick or two of artillery.
> >>>>>> Those little touches that can turn a fight.
>
> >>>>>> Even though that means someone smert enough to be able to work out
> >>>>>> coordinates on a map and use a radio has to get close enough to
> >>>>>> see . . . .
>
> >>>>>> Traditionally either a sergeant or a second lieutenant . . . .
>
> >>>>> oh my
>
> >>>>> big new year
>
> >>>>> ability to maintain a serious conversation impaired.
>
> >>>> O-K
>
> >>>> WHERE, ACCORDING TO THE LETTERS AND THE NUMBERS ON THE SIDES OF THE
> >>>> MAP, DO YOU THINK YOU ARE
>
> >>>> OVER
>
> >>> am i on earth?
>
> >> What color is teh sky?
>
> > red
>
> Perhaps you are inside of Jupiter, looking out.

Methinks he is seeing the world through rose-colored glasses.

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