The Bastards Killed Benazir Bhutto

Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
--
Tim Weaver

I know you believe you understand what you think I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not
what I meant.

 

Tim Weaver wrote:
> Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?

Which assholes?

--
nuts

 

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:

> Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?

Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.

And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.

Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the "frontier"
regions to either cooperate with destroying the Taliban and al Qaeda there
or he'll allow the Americans (who are more than irritated with those
regions serving as sanctuaries for said assholes) in there from
Afghanistan . . . .

Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt quite
cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more than
credible threat.

And even more fun if he actually carried it out.

--
tinmimus99@hotmail.com

smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

We are destroying the Buddha statues
in accordance with Islamic law
and it is purely a religious issue.

< The Taliban on the Buddhas of Bamyan

 

mimus wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>
>> Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>
> Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>
> And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>
> Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the "frontier"
> regions to either cooperate with destroying the Taliban and al Qaeda there
> or he'll allow the Americans (who are more than irritated with those
> regions serving as sanctuaries for said assholes) in there from
> Afghanistan . . . .

My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.

1) Go clean up that tribal area.
2) Let us do it.
3) We'll do it, together.

Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads to option
four.

4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.

> Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt quite
> cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more than
> credible threat.
>
> And even more fun if he actually carried it out.

It would be interesting for sure.
--
Tim Weaver

I know you believe you understand what you think I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not
what I meant.

 

Tim Weaver <tmw99999leavemealone@gmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns9A13BDBCB57830Z0thecheeseclub0Z0@comcast.dca.giganews.com:

> mimus wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>>
>>> Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>>
>> Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>>
>> And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>>
>> Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the
>> "frontier" regions to either cooperate with destroying the Taliban
>> and al Qaeda there or he'll allow the Americans (who are more than
>> irritated with those regions serving as sanctuaries for said
>> assholes) in there from Afghanistan . . . .
>
> My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>
> 1) Go clean up that tribal area.
> 2) Let us do it.
> 3) We'll do it, together.
>
> Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads to
> option four.
>
> 4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>
>> Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt quite
>> cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more than
>> credible threat.
>>
>> And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>
> It would be interesting for sure.

my thought on Musharraf is this

he is an American sponsored former coo leader and
now dictator.

why work with him

principles suck when they are neither black nor white

headkase

 

Tim Weaver wrote:
> mimus wrote:
>
>
>>On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>>
>>Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>>
>>And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>>
>>Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the "frontier"
>>regions to either cooperate with destroying the Taliban and al Qaeda there
>>or he'll allow the Americans (who are more than irritated with those
>>regions serving as sanctuaries for said assholes) in there from
>>Afghanistan . . . .
>
>
> My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>
> 1) Go clean up that tribal area.
> 2) Let us do it.
> 3) We'll do it, together.
>
> Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads to option
> four.
>
> 4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>

That'll work. 162 million pakis all polite and cooperative and free
and democratic in a fortnight. We bad. Mebbe y'all could volunteer to
run the merkin flag concession so they'd have something to wave when
Dubya buzzes over there in his S-3B to tell them what up.

>
>>Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt quite
>>cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more than
>>credible threat.
>>
>>And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>
> It would be interesting for sure.

--
nuts

 

mixed nuts wrote:

> Tim Weaver wrote:
>> mimus wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>>>
>>>Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>>>
>>>And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>>>
>>>Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the "frontier"
>>>regions to either cooperate with destroying the Taliban and al Qaeda
there
>>>or he'll allow the Americans (who are more than irritated with those
>>>regions serving as sanctuaries for said assholes) in there from
>>>Afghanistan . . . .
>>
>>
>> My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>>
>> 1) Go clean up that tribal area.
>> 2) Let us do it.
>> 3) We'll do it, together.
>>
>> Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads to option
>> four.
>>
>> 4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>>
>
> That'll work. 162 million pakis all polite and cooperative and free
> and democratic in a fortnight. We bad. Mebbe y'all could volunteer to
> run the merkin flag concession so they'd have something to wave when
> Dubya buzzes over there in his S-3B to tell them what up.

Dealing with the tribal area has nothing to do with Pakistan not being a
modern democracy (the kink most of us would like it to be).

>>>Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt quite
>>>cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more than
>>>credible threat.
>>>
>>>And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>>
>> It would be interesting for sure.
>



--
Tim Weaver

I know you believe you understand what you think I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not
what I meant.

 

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:11:41 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:

> Tim Weaver <tmw99999leavemealone@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9A13BDBCB57830Z0thecheeseclub0Z0@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>
>> mimus wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>>>
>>>> Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>>>
>>> Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>>>
>>> And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>>>
>>> Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the
>>> "frontier" regions to either cooperate with destroying the Taliban
>>> and al Qaeda there or he'll allow the Americans (who are more than
>>> irritated with those regions serving as sanctuaries for said
>>> assholes) in there from Afghanistan . . . .
>>
>> My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>>
>> 1) Go clean up that tribal area.
>> 2) Let us do it.
>> 3) We'll do it, together.
>>
>> Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads to
>> option four.
>>
>> 4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>>
>>> Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt quite
>>> cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more than
>>> credible threat.
>>>
>>> And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>>
>> It would be interesting for sure.
>
> my thought on Musharraf is this
>
> he is an American sponsored former coo leader and
> now dictator.

He's getting big bucks from China, now, too, apparently.

Note he didn't move against the "Red Mosque" and its kidnappings in the
capital itself of people for "trial" under "Islamic law"-- think of some
church near you starting to kidnap people and put them on "trial" under
the Old Testament-- until they kidnapped some Chinese . . . .

> why work with him

Well, there was Benazir Bhutto . . . .

And the other major opposition figure is head of the "Pakistan Muslim
League-N"-- I don't know what the "N" stands for, but I infer from the
"Muslim" that the PML-N or maybe (N) is not exactly a secularist party.

I don't know why it is that there doesn't seem to be anyone else in
Bhutto's party, the Pakistan People's Party, that is able to command
attention.

Surely they've got a few ex-military-officers that know that if no one
else is going to do it, you gotta do it ("Oh, _no_") (I presume the
Pakistani Army teaches its officer cadets that, regardless of whatever
kind of political and/or incompetent and/or corrupt mess the Army actually
is).

> principles suck when they are neither black nor white

Americans get hardened to the "the least of evils" argument every Election
Day . . . .

Well, actually, a lot of them stay home and get drunk.

Apparently.

As for the choice between a relatively mild dictator and
something/anything like Saudi Arabia and their moral offspring the
Taliban, that's no choice:

Work with the dictator to scrag the theocrats, and then lushly pension the
dictator off.

--
tinmimus99@hotmail.com

smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

It is usual on these occasions to make a great vapouring
about honour and conscience: but as those words are now
generally acknowledged to be utterly destitute of meaning,
I have too much respect for your understanding to say any
thing about them.

< Peacock

 

Don't fight it, Tim Weaver...Just lie down and try to relax:

>Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?

They killfiled him? That sucks, dude. This kind of blatent censorship
will not stand.

--
"Memo to God: Last two things to do: (1) Cancel Wavy. (2) Turn out the lights."
--Mimus submits a rewrite for the ending of The Bible.


*****************************************
* *
* Wavy G *
* mail me at: *
* godsspeciallamb @ gmail.com *
* *
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Don't fight it, psykoexgirlfriend...Just lie down and try to relax:

>Tim Weaver <tmw99999leavemealone@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:Xns9A13BDBCB57830Z0thecheeseclub0Z0@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>
>> mimus wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>>>
>>>> Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>>>
>>> Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>>>
>>> And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>>>
>>> Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the
>>> "frontier" regions to either cooperate with destroying the Taliban
>>> and al Qaeda there or he'll allow the Americans (who are more than
>>> irritated with those regions serving as sanctuaries for said
>>> assholes) in there from Afghanistan . . . .
>>
>> My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>>
>> 1) Go clean up that tribal area.
>> 2) Let us do it.
>> 3) We'll do it, together.
>>
>> Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads to
>> option four.
>>
>> 4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>>
>>> Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt quite
>>> cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more than
>>> credible threat.
>>>
>>> And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>>
>> It would be interesting for sure.
>
>my thought on Musharraf is this
>
>he is an American sponsored former coo leader and
>now dictator.
>
>why work with him
>
>principles suck when they are neither black nor white

I know what you mean, dude. But that's not necessarily true. My high
school principle was white, and he sucked BIG TIME.

Love,
Wavy G

--
"Memo to God: Last two things to do: (1) Cancel Wavy. (2) Turn out the lights."
--Mimus submits a rewrite for the ending of The Bible.


*****************************************
* *
* Wavy G *
* mail me at: *
* godsspeciallamb @ gmail.com *
* *
* *
*****************************************

 

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:56:53 -0500, mimus wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:11:41 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
>
>> Tim Weaver <tmw99999leavemealone@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:Xns9A13BDBCB57830Z0thecheeseclub0Z0@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>>
>>> mimus wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>>>>
>>>> Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>>>>
>>>> And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>>>>
>>>> Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the
>>>> "frontier" regions to either cooperate with destroying the Taliban
>>>> and al Qaeda there or he'll allow the Americans (who are more than
>>>> irritated with those regions serving as sanctuaries for said
>>>> assholes) in there from Afghanistan . . . .
>>>
>>> My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>>>
>>> 1) Go clean up that tribal area.
>>> 2) Let us do it.
>>> 3) We'll do it, together.
>>>
>>> Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads to
>>> option four.
>>>
>>> 4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>>>
>>>> Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt quite
>>>> cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more than
>>>> credible threat.
>>>>
>>>> And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>>>
>>> It would be interesting for sure.
>>
>> my thought on Musharraf is this
>>
>> he is an American sponsored former coo leader and
>> now dictator.
>
> He's getting big bucks from China, now, too, apparently.
>
> Note he didn't move against the "Red Mosque" and its kidnappings in the
> capital itself of people for "trial" under "Islamic law"-- think of some
> church near you starting to kidnap people and put them on "trial" under
> the Old Testament-- until they kidnapped some Chinese . . . .
>
>> why work with him
>
> Well, there was Benazir Bhutto . . . .
>
> And the other major opposition figure is head of the "Pakistan Muslim
> League-N"-- I don't know what the "N" stands for, but I infer from the
> "Muslim" that the PML-N or maybe (N) is not exactly a secularist party.
>
> I don't know why it is that there doesn't seem to be anyone else in
> Bhutto's party, the Pakistan People's Party, that is able to command
> attention.
>
> Surely they've got a few ex-military-officers that know that if no one
> else is going to do it, you gotta do it ("Oh, _no_") (I presume the
> Pakistani Army teaches its officer cadets that, regardless of whatever
> kind of political and/or incompetent and/or corrupt mess the Army actually
> is).
>
>> principles suck when they are neither black nor white
>
> Americans get hardened to the "the least of evils" argument every Election
> Day . . . .
>
> Well, actually, a lot of them stay home and get drunk.
>
> Apparently.
>
> As for the choice between a relatively mild dictator and
> something/anything like Saudi Arabia and their moral offspring the
> Taliban, that's no choice:
>
> Work with the dictator to scrag the theocrats, and then lushly pension the
> dictator off.

Here's a neat glimpse of Life on the Afghani-Pakistani Frontier I just ran
across-- the English is a little shaky but the picture is still clear
enough to be appalling:

"PARACHINAR: Two FC personnel among thirteen Taliban killed while twenty
two others sustained serious injuries in the ongoing shootout at different
places sources said on Wednesday. So far fifteen persons had been killed
with forty other injured in the interne sign among the warring groups in
the area. Till now thirteen Taliban are said to have been killed among
fifty one others and ninety five individuals have received serious wounds
in the battle. According to the details fierce fighting is continuing at
Sada, Khar Kalay, Balish Khel, Sangeena , Alizai, Tungi, Chardewaal,
Bagan, Makhezai, Mengak, Maqbal, Kanjalizai, Satikot, Terimangal and
Pevaar, heavy weapons including martor guns, missiles, Rocket Launchers
and Machine Guns are being used freely from both sides, while the
government is like a silent spectator over the bloody clashes. The sources
added that on Tuesday night hundreds of Taliban hailing from Waziristan
agency attacking at Alizai, Tungi, Chardewaal, Mengak areas where Turi
tribesmen are residing suffered heavy loss at the hands of the Turi
tribesmen while retaliating the charging Taliban on there respective areas."

http://www.thefrontierpost.com/News.aspx?ncat=ts&nid=696

Sounds very much like the Taliban are attempting to conquer another tribal
area there, and things aren't going so well for them quite at this moment.

It also sounds, rather shockingly, like the Pakistani Army is refusing to
assist those tribesmen, at least with boots on the ground, although it
also sounds like those tribesmen are at least as loaded for bear as the
Taliban are, wot they have to be getting that stuff from somewhere.

Still, air-support would be nice. A lick or two of artillery. Those
little touches that can turn a fight.

Even though that means someone smert enough to be able to work out
coordinates on a map and use a radio has to get close enough to see . . . .

Traditionally either a sergeant or a second lieutenant . . . .

--
tinmimus99@hotmail.com

smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

I AM JUST WEST OF THE MANURE PILE

< First known US military "wireless" communication

 

Tim Weaver wrote:
> mixed nuts wrote:
>
>>Tim Weaver wrote:
>>
>>>mimus wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>>>>
>>>>Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>>>>
>>>>And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>>>>
>>>>Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the "frontier"
>>>>regions to either cooperate with destroying the Taliban and al Qaeda
>
> there
>
>>>>or he'll allow the Americans (who are more than irritated with those
>>>>regions serving as sanctuaries for said assholes) in there from
>>>>Afghanistan . . . .
>>>
>>>My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>>>
>>>1) Go clean up that tribal area.
>>>2) Let us do it.
>>>3) We'll do it, together.
>>>
>>>Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads to option
>>>four.
>>>
>>>4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>>>
>>That'll work. 162 million pakis all polite and cooperative and free
>>and democratic in a fortnight. We bad. Mebbe y'all could volunteer to
>>run the merkin flag concession so they'd have something to wave when
>>Dubya buzzes over there in his S-3B to tell them what up.
>
> Dealing with the tribal area has nothing to do with Pakistan not being a
> modern democracy (the kink most of us would like it to be).
>
Who has the most to gain by whacking this beehive? There seems to be
no shortage of arms - the guns, ammunition, rockets and grenades have
to come from somewhere (they make them out of imported yak poop?) so
whatever happens there's going to be a mess. The region has been only
'slightly' managable since sometime prior to 500 BCE - pre-islam - it's
had empires wrapped around it but it has never been totally subdued.
Fortresses have been built, armies have invaded but the tribes still do
pretty much as they and survival decide. If you need a place to burn
resources and stir up trouble it's the best place on earth to do so.
Taliqaediranians did it (like who else anyhow?). They hang out there.
Let's declare worldwide martial law and start shootin' and starvin'
'em. Woohoo. 9/11. Freedom. Heroes. PTSD. IEDs. DU. Willy Pete.
Shockanawe. And stuff.

Or, the effort to educate, support and enfranchise indigenous peoples
could continue, perhaps stepped up a lot. Maybe if they had
representation in government proportionate to population they'd be less
prone to shooting their way into regional politics. Maybe if there was
a literacy rate better than 35% they'd have the means to communicate
their thoughts and learn the thoughts of others. Maybe if life wasn't
so harsh that death has become simple routine they'd behave in a more
civilized manner. Maybe if they had an economy based on something other
than moving arms and drugs they'd be more like the people we all like
to hang out with. The Taliban thrives on ignorance and fear. As long as
'civilized people' make life far more miserable than it has to be for
any corner of the world, there will be fertile ground for the
'extremist'.

>>>>Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt quite
>>>>cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more than
>>>>credible threat.
>>>>
>>>>And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>>>
>>>It would be interesting for sure.
>

--
nuts

 

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:18:57 -0500, mixed nuts wrote:

> Tim Weaver wrote:
>
>> mixed nuts wrote:
>>
>>>Tim Weaver wrote:
>>>
>>>>mimus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>>>>>
>>>>>Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>>>>>
>>>>>And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>>>>>
>>>>>Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the "frontier"
>>>>>regions to either cooperate with destroying the Taliban and al Qaeda
>>
>> there
>>
>>>>>or he'll allow the Americans (who are more than irritated with those
>>>>>regions serving as sanctuaries for said assholes) in there from
>>>>>Afghanistan . . . .
>>>>
>>>>My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>>>>
>>>>1) Go clean up that tribal area.
>>>>2) Let us do it.
>>>>3) We'll do it, together.
>>>>
>>>>Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads to option
>>>>four.
>>>>
>>>>4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>>>>
>>>That'll work. 162 million pakis all polite and cooperative and free
>>>and democratic in a fortnight. We bad. Mebbe y'all could volunteer to
>>>run the merkin flag concession so they'd have something to wave when
>>>Dubya buzzes over there in his S-3B to tell them what up.
>>
>> Dealing with the tribal area has nothing to do with Pakistan not being a
>> modern democracy (the kink most of us would like it to be).
>>
> Who has the most to gain by whacking this beehive? There seems to be
> no shortage of arms - the guns, ammunition, rockets and grenades have
> to come from somewhere (they make them out of imported yak poop?) so
> whatever happens there's going to be a mess. The region has been only
> 'slightly' managable since sometime prior to 500 BCE - pre-islam - it's
> had empires wrapped around it but it has never been totally subdued.
> Fortresses have been built, armies have invaded but the tribes still do
> pretty much as they and survival decide. If you need a place to burn
> resources and stir up trouble it's the best place on earth to do so.
> Taliqaediranians did it (like who else anyhow?). They hang out there.
> Let's declare worldwide martial law and start shootin' and starvin'
> 'em. Woohoo. 9/11. Freedom. Heroes. PTSD. IEDs. DU. Willy Pete.
> Shockanawe. And stuff.
>
> Or, the effort to educate, support and enfranchise indigenous peoples
> could continue, perhaps stepped up a lot. Maybe if they had
> representation in government proportionate to population they'd be less
> prone to shooting their way into regional politics. Maybe if there was
> a literacy rate better than 35% they'd have the means to communicate
> their thoughts and learn the thoughts of others. Maybe if life wasn't
> so harsh that death has become simple routine they'd behave in a more
> civilized manner. Maybe if they had an economy based on something other
> than moving arms and drugs they'd be more like the people we all like
> to hang out with. The Taliban thrives on ignorance and fear. As long as
> 'civilized people' make life far more miserable than it has to be for
> any corner of the world, there will be fertile ground for the
> 'extremist'.

Your "poverty, ignorance and disease (PID)" theory is a popular one (used
to be used to explain communism's appeal in the "Third World", by people
who ignored the horrifying plutocracies of that "World" and the "Free
World's" complacent acceptance of those plutocracies), but doesn't explain
(a) for example that the Numbah One and Two al Qaeda leaders are
respectively a civil engineer and a physician, (b) the Taliban's
consistent policy of attacking construction crews and aid workers in
Afghanistan and (c) the fact that some people respond to poverty,
ignorance and disease constructively.

--
tinmimus99@hotmail.com

smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

Hoc est ratio?

< Lucilius

 

"mimus" <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sfqdnXS_gpW2jOnanZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>
> > Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>
> Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>
> And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>
> Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the "frontier"
> regions to either cooperate with destroying the Taliban and al Qaeda there
> or he'll allow the Americans (who are more than irritated with those
> regions serving as sanctuaries for said assholes) in there from
> Afghanistan . . . .

Certainly is convenient for Musharraf, doncha think? Didn't he put her under
house arrest when she first arrived in Pakistan?

And golly gee whiz, one of those naughty terrorists did it too. Of course,
Musharraf's hands are clean, aren't they?

Smee

>
> Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt quite
> cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more than
> credible threat.
>
> And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>
> --
> tinmimus99@hotmail.com
>
> smeeter 11 or maybe 12
>
> mp 10
>
> mhm 29x13
>
> We are destroying the Buddha statues
> in accordance with Islamic law
> and it is purely a religious issue.
>
> < The Taliban on the Buddhas of Bamyan
>

 

Once upon a time in a magickal land far far away the being called Tim
Weaver stirred from its deep slumber and pronounced to usenet:

: mimus wrote:
:
: : On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
: :
: : : Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
: :
: : Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
: :
: : And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
: :
: : Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the
: : "frontier" regions to either cooperate with destroying the Taliban
: : and al Qaeda there or he'll allow the Americans (who are more than
: : irritated with those regions serving as sanctuaries for said
: : assholes) in there from Afghanistan . . . .
:
: My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
:
: 1) Go clean up that tribal area.
: 2) Let us do it.
: 3) We'll do it, together.
:
: Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads to
: option four.
:
: 4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.

typical american attitude, I'll bet you even voted for the christian
fundamentalist fuckhead george w bush?

nuke pakistan and that'll stop all these religious fundamentalists?
methinks it'd make things much much worse.

:
: : Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt quite
: : cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more than
: : credible threat.
: :
: : And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
:
: It would be interesting for sure.

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Steve Leyland wrote:

> Once upon a time in a magickal land far far away the being called Tim
> Weaver stirred from its deep slumber and pronounced to usenet:
>
>: mimus wrote:
>:
>: : On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>: :
>: : : Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>: :
>: : Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>: :
>: : And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>: :
>: : Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the
>: : "frontier" regions to either cooperate with destroying the Taliban
>: : and al Qaeda there or he'll allow the Americans (who are more than
>: : irritated with those regions serving as sanctuaries for said
>: : assholes) in there from Afghanistan . . . .
>:
>: My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>:
>: 1) Go clean up that tribal area.
>: 2) Let us do it.
>: 3) We'll do it, together.
>:
>: Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads to
>: option four.
>:
>: 4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>
> typical american attitude, I'll bet you even voted for the christian
> fundamentalist fuckhead george w bush?

Yes, because of security issues only. Not one attack on this country since
9/11. I care nothing of his God blessing the country or personal beliefs.
I'm an atheist. I find myself leaning mostly left on pretty much all other
issues. Not all, but most.

Considering security, if I'm dead, none of the other stuff matters.

> nuke pakistan and that'll stop all these religious fundamentalists?
> methinks it'd make things much much worse.

I didn't say nuke.

>: : Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt quite
>: : cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more than
>: : credible threat.
>: :
>: : And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>:
>: It would be interesting for sure.


--
Tim Weaver

I know you believe you understand what you think I said,
but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not
what I meant.

 

Tim Weaver wrote:
> Steve Leyland wrote:
>
>>Once upon a time in a magickal land far far away the being called Tim
>>Weaver stirred from its deep slumber and pronounced to usenet:
>>
>>: mimus wrote:
>>:
>>: : On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>>: :
>>: : : Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>>: :
>>: : Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>>: :
>>: : And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>>: :
>>: : Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the
>>: : "frontier" regions to either cooperate with destroying the Taliban
>>: : and al Qaeda there or he'll allow the Americans (who are more than
>>: : irritated with those regions serving as sanctuaries for said
>>: : assholes) in there from Afghanistan . . . .
>>:
>>: My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>>:
>>: 1) Go clean up that tribal area.
>>: 2) Let us do it.
>>: 3) We'll do it, together.
>>:
>>: Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads to
>>: option four.
>>:
>>: 4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>>
>>typical american attitude, I'll bet you even voted for the christian
>>fundamentalist fuckhead george w bush?
>
> Yes, because of security issues only. Not one attack on this country since
> 9/11. I care nothing of his God blessing the country or personal beliefs.
> I'm an atheist. I find myself leaning mostly left on pretty much all other
> issues. Not all, but most.
>
> Considering security, if I'm dead, none of the other stuff matters.
>
Good thing ol' George shipped that dangerous National Guard and most
of their dangerous shootin' pontoon bridges and amphibious rescue
bombin' vehicles over to the sands of Iraq and Afghanistan so's they
couldn't be used by wild-eyed SP4's and Sergeants to pull bathing
grannies and their kittieies out of the purifying waters from Lake
Ponchartrain.

>
>>nuke pakistan and that'll stop all these religious fundamentalists?
>>methinks it'd make things much much worse.
>
> I didn't say nuke.
>
You have to nuke them - they have trillions of dollars and if we nuke
them we get to keep the money and fix up the world (we know exactly
where they keep it - we just have to figure out the PIN codes for the
ATMs but that's hard because they keep changing them - hence the nuke
requirement).
>
>>: : Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt quite
>>: : cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more than
>>: : credible threat.
>>: :
>>: : And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>>:
>>: It would be interesting for sure.
>
Plus we can get rich making parts for all the AK-47s they're going to
wear out.

--
nuts

 

mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:GqydnS2YW4rMx-nanZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@giganews.com:

> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:56:53 -0500, mimus wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:11:41 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
>>
>>> Tim Weaver <tmw99999leavemealone@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:Xns9A13BDBCB57830Z0thecheeseclub0Z0@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> mimus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>>>>>
>>>>> And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>>>>>
>>>>> Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the
>>>>> "frontier" regions to either cooperate with destroying the Taliban
>>>>> and al Qaeda there or he'll allow the Americans (who are more than
>>>>> irritated with those regions serving as sanctuaries for said
>>>>> assholes) in there from Afghanistan . . . .
>>>>
>>>> My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Go clean up that tribal area.
>>>> 2) Let us do it.
>>>> 3) We'll do it, together.
>>>>
>>>> Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads to
>>>> option four.
>>>>
>>>> 4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>>>>
>>>>> Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt quite
>>>>> cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more than
>>>>> credible threat.
>>>>>
>>>>> And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>>>>
>>>> It would be interesting for sure.
>>>
>>> my thought on Musharraf is this
>>>
>>> he is an American sponsored former coo leader and
>>> now dictator.
>>
>> He's getting big bucks from China, now, too, apparently.
>>
>> Note he didn't move against the "Red Mosque" and its kidnappings in
>> the capital itself of people for "trial" under "Islamic law"-- think
>> of some church near you starting to kidnap people and put them on
>> "trial" under the Old Testament-- until they kidnapped some Chinese .
>> . . .
>>
>>> why work with him
>>
>> Well, there was Benazir Bhutto . . . .
>>
>> And the other major opposition figure is head of the "Pakistan Muslim
>> League-N"-- I don't know what the "N" stands for, but I infer from
>> the "Muslim" that the PML-N or maybe (N) is not exactly a secularist
>> party.
>>
>> I don't know why it is that there doesn't seem to be anyone else in
>> Bhutto's party, the Pakistan People's Party, that is able to command
>> attention.
>>
>> Surely they've got a few ex-military-officers that know that if no
>> one else is going to do it, you gotta do it ("Oh, _no_") (I presume
>> the Pakistani Army teaches its officer cadets that, regardless of
>> whatever kind of political and/or incompetent and/or corrupt mess the
>> Army actually is).
>>
>>> principles suck when they are neither black nor white
>>
>> Americans get hardened to the "the least of evils" argument every
>> Election Day . . . .
>>
>> Well, actually, a lot of them stay home and get drunk.
>>
>> Apparently.
>>
>> As for the choice between a relatively mild dictator and
>> something/anything like Saudi Arabia and their moral offspring the
>> Taliban, that's no choice:
>>
>> Work with the dictator to scrag the theocrats, and then lushly
>> pension the dictator off.
>
> Here's a neat glimpse of Life on the Afghani-Pakistani Frontier I just
> ran across-- the English is a little shaky but the picture is still
> clear enough to be appalling:
>
> "PARACHINAR: Two FC personnel among thirteen Taliban killed while
> twenty two others sustained serious injuries in the ongoing shootout
> at different places sources said on Wednesday. So far fifteen persons
> had been killed with forty other injured in the interne sign among the
> warring groups in the area. Till now thirteen Taliban are said to have
> been killed among fifty one others and ninety five individuals have
> received serious wounds in the battle. According to the details fierce
> fighting is continuing at Sada, Khar Kalay, Balish Khel, Sangeena ,
> Alizai, Tungi, Chardewaal, Bagan, Makhezai, Mengak, Maqbal,
> Kanjalizai, Satikot, Terimangal and Pevaar, heavy weapons including
> martor guns, missiles, Rocket Launchers and Machine Guns are being
> used freely from both sides, while the government is like a silent
> spectator over the bloody clashes. The sources added that on Tuesday
> night hundreds of Taliban hailing from Waziristan agency attacking at
> Alizai, Tungi, Chardewaal, Mengak areas where Turi tribesmen are
> residing suffered heavy loss at the hands of the Turi tribesmen while
> retaliating the charging Taliban on there respective areas."
>
> http://www.thefrontierpost.com/News.aspx?ncat=ts&nid=696
>
> Sounds very much like the Taliban are attempting to conquer another
> tribal area there, and things aren't going so well for them quite at
> this moment.
>
> It also sounds, rather shockingly, like the Pakistani Army is refusing
> to assist those tribesmen, at least with boots on the ground, although
> it also sounds like those tribesmen are at least as loaded for bear as
> the Taliban are, wot they have to be getting that stuff from
> somewhere.
>
> Still, air-support would be nice. A lick or two of artillery. Those
> little touches that can turn a fight.
>
> Even though that means someone smert enough to be able to work out
> coordinates on a map and use a radio has to get close enough to see .
> . . .
>
> Traditionally either a sergeant or a second lieutenant . . . .
>

oh my

big new year

ability to maintain a serious conversation impaired.

headkase

 

On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:17:10 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:

> mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:GqydnS2YW4rMx-nanZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:56:53 -0500, mimus wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:11:41 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tim Weaver <tmw99999leavemealone@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:Xns9A13BDBCB57830Z0thecheeseclub0Z0@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>>>>
>>>>> mimus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the
>>>>>> "frontier" regions to either cooperate with destroying the Taliban
>>>>>> and al Qaeda there or he'll allow the Americans (who are more than
>>>>>> irritated with those regions serving as sanctuaries for said
>>>>>> assholes) in there from Afghanistan . . . .
>>>>>
>>>>> My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Go clean up that tribal area.
>>>>> 2) Let us do it.
>>>>> 3) We'll do it, together.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads to
>>>>> option four.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt quite
>>>>>> cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more than
>>>>>> credible threat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be interesting for sure.
>>>>
>>>> my thought on Musharraf is this
>>>>
>>>> he is an American sponsored former coo leader and
>>>> now dictator.
>>>
>>> He's getting big bucks from China, now, too, apparently.
>>>
>>> Note he didn't move against the "Red Mosque" and its kidnappings in
>>> the capital itself of people for "trial" under "Islamic law"-- think
>>> of some church near you starting to kidnap people and put them on
>>> "trial" under the Old Testament-- until they kidnapped some Chinese .
>>> . . .
>>>
>>>> why work with him
>>>
>>> Well, there was Benazir Bhutto . . . .
>>>
>>> And the other major opposition figure is head of the "Pakistan Muslim
>>> League-N"-- I don't know what the "N" stands for, but I infer from
>>> the "Muslim" that the PML-N or maybe (N) is not exactly a secularist
>>> party.
>>>
>>> I don't know why it is that there doesn't seem to be anyone else in
>>> Bhutto's party, the Pakistan People's Party, that is able to command
>>> attention.
>>>
>>> Surely they've got a few ex-military-officers that know that if no
>>> one else is going to do it, you gotta do it ("Oh, _no_") (I presume
>>> the Pakistani Army teaches its officer cadets that, regardless of
>>> whatever kind of political and/or incompetent and/or corrupt mess the
>>> Army actually is).
>>>
>>>> principles suck when they are neither black nor white
>>>
>>> Americans get hardened to the "the least of evils" argument every
>>> Election Day . . . .
>>>
>>> Well, actually, a lot of them stay home and get drunk.
>>>
>>> Apparently.
>>>
>>> As for the choice between a relatively mild dictator and
>>> something/anything like Saudi Arabia and their moral offspring the
>>> Taliban, that's no choice:
>>>
>>> Work with the dictator to scrag the theocrats, and then lushly
>>> pension the dictator off.
>>
>> Here's a neat glimpse of Life on the Afghani-Pakistani Frontier I just
>> ran across-- the English is a little shaky but the picture is still
>> clear enough to be appalling:
>>
>> "PARACHINAR: Two FC personnel among thirteen Taliban killed while
>> twenty two others sustained serious injuries in the ongoing shootout
>> at different places sources said on Wednesday. So far fifteen persons
>> had been killed with forty other injured in the interne sign among the
>> warring groups in the area. Till now thirteen Taliban are said to have
>> been killed among fifty one others and ninety five individuals have
>> received serious wounds in the battle. According to the details fierce
>> fighting is continuing at Sada, Khar Kalay, Balish Khel, Sangeena ,
>> Alizai, Tungi, Chardewaal, Bagan, Makhezai, Mengak, Maqbal,
>> Kanjalizai, Satikot, Terimangal and Pevaar, heavy weapons including
>> martor guns, missiles, Rocket Launchers and Machine Guns are being
>> used freely from both sides, while the government is like a silent
>> spectator over the bloody clashes. The sources added that on Tuesday
>> night hundreds of Taliban hailing from Waziristan agency attacking at
>> Alizai, Tungi, Chardewaal, Mengak areas where Turi tribesmen are
>> residing suffered heavy loss at the hands of the Turi tribesmen while
>> retaliating the charging Taliban on there respective areas."
>>
>> http://www.thefrontierpost.com/News.aspx?ncat=ts&nid=696
>>
>> Sounds very much like the Taliban are attempting to conquer another
>> tribal area there, and things aren't going so well for them quite at
>> this moment.
>>
>> It also sounds, rather shockingly, like the Pakistani Army is refusing
>> to assist those tribesmen, at least with boots on the ground, although
>> it also sounds like those tribesmen are at least as loaded for bear as
>> the Taliban are, wot they have to be getting that stuff from
>> somewhere.
>>
>> Still, air-support would be nice. A lick or two of artillery. Those
>> little touches that can turn a fight.
>>
>> Even though that means someone smert enough to be able to work out
>> coordinates on a map and use a radio has to get close enough to see .
>> . . .
>>
>> Traditionally either a sergeant or a second lieutenant . . . .
>
> oh my
>
> big new year
>
> ability to maintain a serious conversation impaired.

O-K

WHERE, ACCORDING TO THE LETTERS AND THE NUMBERS ON THE SIDES OF THE MAP,
DO YOU THINK YOU ARE

OVER

--
tinmimus99@hotmail.com

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mp 10

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I AM JUST WEST OF THE MANURE PILE

< First known US military "wireless" communication

 

mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:HrOdnfnqVKOvvODanZ2dnUVZ_r6rnZ2d@giganews.com:

> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:17:10 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
>
>> mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:GqydnS2YW4rMx-nanZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>
>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:56:53 -0500, mimus wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:11:41 +0000, psykoexgirlfriend wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tim Weaver <tmw99999leavemealone@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:Xns9A13BDBCB57830Z0thecheeseclub0Z0@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> mimus wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:15:30 -0600, Tim Weaver wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Still think we don't need to rid the world of these assholes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Allah will teach all those "uppity" Moslem women a lesson.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And if he won't, then his self-elected "representatives" will.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Musharraf should threaten WhoeverTF it is who really rules the
>>>>>>> "frontier" regions to either cooperate with destroying the
Taliban
>>>>>>> and al Qaeda there or he'll allow the Americans (who are more
than
>>>>>>> irritated with those regions serving as sanctuaries for said
>>>>>>> assholes) in there from Afghanistan . . . .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My thought has always been to give Musharraf four options.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Go clean up that tribal area.
>>>>>> 2) Let us do it.
>>>>>> 3) We'll do it, together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rejection of those three options means harboring, which leads to
>>>>>> option four.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) Pakistan goes *BOOM*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wouldn't cost him or the Pakistani Army (who would no doubt
quite
>>>>>>> cheerfully endorse the plan) anything, and it would be a more
than
>>>>>>> credible threat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And even more fun if he actually carried it out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be interesting for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> my thought on Musharraf is this
>>>>>
>>>>> he is an American sponsored former coo leader and
>>>>> now dictator.
>>>>
>>>> He's getting big bucks from China, now, too, apparently.
>>>>
>>>> Note he didn't move against the "Red Mosque" and its kidnappings in
>>>> the capital itself of people for "trial" under "Islamic law"--
think
>>>> of some church near you starting to kidnap people and put them on
>>>> "trial" under the Old Testament-- until they kidnapped some Chinese
..
>>>> . . .
>>>>
>>>>> why work with him
>>>>
>>>> Well, there was Benazir Bhutto . . . .
>>>>
>>>> And the other major opposition figure is head of the "Pakistan
Muslim
>>>> League-N"-- I don't know what the "N" stands for, but I infer from
>>>> the "Muslim" that the PML-N or maybe (N) is not exactly a
secularist
>>>> party.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know why it is that there doesn't seem to be anyone else in
>>>> Bhutto's party, the Pakistan People's Party, that is able to
command
>>>> attention.
>>>>
>>>> Surely they've got a few ex-military-officers that know that if no
>>>> one else is going to do it, you gotta do it ("Oh, _no_") (I presume
>>>> the Pakistani Army teaches its officer cadets that, regardless of
>>>> whatever kind of political and/or incompetent and/or corrupt mess
the
>>>> Army actually is).
>>>>
>>>>> principles suck when they are neither black nor white
>>>>
>>>> Americans get hardened to the "the least of evils" argument every
>>>> Election Day . . . .
>>>>
>>>> Well, actually, a lot of them stay home and get drunk.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently.
>>>>
>>>> As for the choice between a relatively mild dictator and
>>>> something/anything like Saudi Arabia and their moral offspring the
>>>> Taliban, that's no choice:
>>>>
>>>> Work with the dictator to scrag the theocrats, and then lushly
>>>> pension the dictator off.
>>>
>>> Here's a neat glimpse of Life on the Afghani-Pakistani Frontier I
just
>>> ran across-- the English is a little shaky but the picture is still
>>> clear enough to be appalling:
>>>
>>> "PARACHINAR: Two FC personnel among thirteen Taliban killed while
>>> twenty two others sustained serious injuries in the ongoing shootout
>>> at different places sources said on Wednesday. So far fifteen
persons
>>> had been killed with forty other injured in the interne sign among
the
>>> warring groups in the area. Till now thirteen Taliban are said to
have
>>> been killed among fifty one others and ninety five individuals have
>>> received serious wounds in the battle. According to the details
fierce
>>> fighting is continuing at Sada, Khar Kalay, Balish Khel, Sangeena ,
>>> Alizai, Tungi, Chardewaal, Bagan, Makhezai, Mengak, Maqbal,
>>> Kanjalizai, Satikot, Terimangal and Pevaar, heavy weapons including
>>> martor guns, missiles, Rocket Launchers and Machine Guns are being
>>> used freely from both sides, while the government is like a silent
>>> spectator over the bloody clashes. The sources added that on Tuesday
>>> night hundreds of Taliban hailing from Waziristan agency attacking
at
>>> Alizai, Tungi, Chardewaal, Mengak areas where Turi tribesmen are
>>> residing suffered heavy loss at the hands of the Turi tribesmen
while
>>> retaliating the charging Taliban on there respective areas."
>>>
>>> http://www.thefrontierpost.com/News.aspx?ncat=ts&nid=696
>>>
>>> Sounds very much like the Taliban are attempting to conquer another
>>> tribal area there, and things aren't going so well for them quite at
>>> this moment.
>>>
>>> It also sounds, rather shockingly, like the Pakistani Army is
refusing
>>> to assist those tribesmen, at least with boots on the ground,
although
>>> it also sounds like those tribesmen are at least as loaded for bear
as
>>> the Taliban are, wot they have to be getting that stuff from
>>> somewhere.
>>>
>>> Still, air-support would be nice. A lick or two of artillery.
Those
>>> little touches that can turn a fight.
>>>
>>> Even though that means someone smert enough to be able to work out
>>> coordinates on a map and use a radio has to get close enough to see
..
>>> . . .
>>>
>>> Traditionally either a sergeant or a second lieutenant . . . .
>>
>> oh my
>>
>> big new year
>>
>> ability to maintain a serious conversation impaired.
>
> O-K
>
> WHERE, ACCORDING TO THE LETTERS AND THE NUMBERS ON THE SIDES OF THE
MAP,
> DO YOU THINK YOU ARE
>
> OVER
>

am i on earth?