The Affordable Care Act....Check & Mate

Discussion in 'Politics' started by JoeNation, Mar 27, 2014.

  1. Dan E

    Dan E New Member

    I believe it may be you who has the mistaken thinking.
    see post 139
     
  2. Recusant
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    Recusant Member

    Hello and welcome to Partisan Lines, Dan E. If you find slanging matches appalling, this probably isn't the place for you, since a large percentage of what goes on here is just that. We're all "Dimocrats" and "Repukes" and so forth here. We thrive on such brilliant badinage, and if you find it off-putting, you'll soon have your fill and more. On the other hand--

    The rest of your post looks like you might just manage to fit in. Just heap some more scorn on the president and all the lying liberals. That will ensure that the right-wingers on this site will welcome you with open arms. Enjoy!
     
  3. freshmeat

    freshmeat Can't touch this

    That quote is from here: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat..._in_new_cbo_affordable_care_act_analysis.html

    Did slate goof that? In Table 2 of the report it looks like 12 in 2014 and 26 in 2024. I am ok with 12 in '14 and 26 in '24 to confront the idea of 'few'.

    You may notice in the progression of the post I later dug out the actual pdf of the report. Very transparent.

    I also quoted the 109 from slate (and I never claimed it to be other than as described in the CBO report.) You do realize what the claim is, right? Lower projected costs, compared to previous cost projections. If you want to argue with CBO, fine, have at it :) Are you keeping up on comprehension yet?

    And while you are at it, what do you think was rlm's point? Did you figure out his error?

    You may want to consider this gem from the report

    Consider it the bottom line overall effect of ACA. In CBO's estimation anyway, your faux news reader may vary.

    It is a big complicated thing and nothing is certain, just like any other part of the economy or future. ACA is the best thing going so far, the opposition has yet to put up any credible alternative, and now it is long past too late for that anyway. Their tactic was to oppose any progress, as usual. For instance they are still in denial of global warming.

    Now about your assessment of my methods:

    Starting with your disparagement of my ID and physiological state, despite your claims of character just before you committed the act of dragging yourself into it. My self esteem is fine. The ID was a taunt to those/what I saw here before I joined - how intelligent of you to misunderstand!

    If you read back the relatively short time I have been here you will see how I started out, what I encountered and when I decided to not waste much effort with the holy trinity of fallacious obstruction obfuscation. I will not be held to a one sided double standard. I suggested this place class up and that got the pocket veto. Go check the rules and enforcement of such. Anytime realistic rules of debate are promulgated here I'll stand muster. This is not a formal debate forum (far as I can tell so far). I make no apologies.

    Either way, welcome to the mess :)
     
  4. freshmeat

    freshmeat Can't touch this

    Yup, might be some mistakes in 139 - agreed :)
     
  5. Dan E

    Dan E New Member

    Then I will not waste my time trying to convince those who can not see any side but their own. Good luck in you're self-assured, liberally skewed views of the world. No sense wasting any more time here. I for one don't have that much time to waste.
     
  6. Recusant
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    Recusant Member

    What's the smart money say regarding whether he manages to stick the flounce?
     
  7. freshmeat

    freshmeat Can't touch this

    If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen :) No one needs any more of your kind anywhere anyway :) And you won't be missed :) Thanks for stopping by :)
     
  8. freshmeat

    freshmeat Can't touch this

    My guess is he is a shill for one of the trifecta or someone else here. Doing a little drive by hit and run. Dirty work they don't want their name on.
     
  9. Recusant
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    Recusant Member

    It did seem to me that there was a whiff of Duplicity™ in the air. "I'm above it all, but take that, and that."

    I especially enjoyed the nice refrain from the song-book: "I'm no racist, but damn, all Obama does is lie. And I get called a racist just because I point out he's always lying. :("
     
  10. justafarmer

    justafarmer Well-Known Member

    http://www.aoa.gov/Aging_Statistics/future_growth/future_growth.aspx

    According to this Govt Agency projections
    Year 2020
    Total Population 341,386,665
    Population (65 & >) 54,804,470
    Population (< 65) 286,582,195

    Year 2030
    Total Population 373,503,674
    Population (65 & >) 72,091,915
    Population (< 65) 301,411,759

    Population Increase (< 65) per year between 2020-2030
    1,482,956

    Projected population (<65) in 2024
    286,582,195 + (4 x 1,482,956) = 292,514,021

    CBO projected population (<65) in 2024 = 285,000,000

    So what has the CBO done with the other 7.5 million people? Certainly they're not all in prison?

    Nothing against the CBO estimates - just the US Govt can not even agree with itself. At least they could all get on the same page and use a standard baseline and be equally wrong. Is that too much to ask?
     
  11. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    I gave up a long time ago trying to figure out his ramblings. I barely skim his posts these days. He follows me around like a puppy dog nipping at my ankles but doesn't even manage to arouse my attention and then saves my posts in a file on his computer, and then uses them incoherently to try and trap me. I have no idea what this particular lack of comprehension is about. There have been so many
     
  12. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Welcome Dan and don't let the virtual screen door hit you in the ass on the way out. Your skin seems a little thin for this place anyway.
     
  13. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    I have my favorite parts too. I like the story of voting for Obama in 2008 but being offended by the Sarah Palin meme in my sig line. You would think that someone so offended that I mocked a twit like Palin would have voted for her when he had the chance. I've never met anyone that could vote for Obama and then flip to supporting the likes of Palin. Sort of speaks to the schizophrenia of his opinions.
     

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