The ACTUAL heathcare bill

Here it is folks, 1200 pages long and in the same format that our congress gets. %100 non edited and plain.

If you need a lawyer to read it, I understand. If you need a free lawyer to help you thru it, marry one, I did.

http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf

The link works, I just checked. It does for some reason take you to the end, you can scroll up to see it from page one......in it's full form.

 

Now that we have the bill, in writing and solid as a rock, why are we not getting support for issues or against [posts.

Talk is cheap, blame is easy and pointing fingers is common.

Who here can debunk an arguement or solidify a point with the actual bill before us? PRWE folks, I am tired of doing the legwork. Those for and against, get off yer azzz and get specific.

 

He will pull the plug on my grandmother.
(humor)

Although it is very scary that it might not be humorous. OBAMA scares me, and that is really I can say. I don't trust him, or our government. Even if somebody who I liked was in office, I would still want to be in control of ME.

 

Yea AZ. I dont see anything really that my health plan doesnt include. Or prohibit. A cost cap. A group of doctors and businessmen giving a yea or ney on treatment. And that doesnt mean setting a broken arm or prescribing Lipitor. I mean operations and such. And I see nothing about a death plan.

 

Just wait for the death pannels, where when the government gets "desperate" they have to take the lives of the elderly and retarded who cost them so much money.
Why does money matter, they print it whenever they want anyway.

 

Yea. Just you guys wait.

 

And you wait for the new world order, and the anti-christ and OBAMA being in control of the european union. I honestly can say that you will be sorry.

 

I started my own thread on it and listed pages 30-32 and explained my problem with the first 32 pages. So far I'm the only one to do it.

There's only so much time in a day. The people who's job it is to read it won't read it. I have to try to read pieces of it in my free time. I can tell you though that i've seen enough already without continuing. I don't care if it was perfect in every sense! As fast as this administration is trying to ram it through, we wouldn't know anyway.

The main thing is, it's another government program that instead of only involving certain groups such as the elderly or retired, this one will include EVERYONE. And there's no way to pay for it. It can't work. It can't be adequately funded, just like the multitudes of other programs. It doesn't make sense to start up another massive program. At least not in this way.

 

"H. R." means this is the house version and the finished bill will be quite different.

 

Oh Please TM tell us exactly when President Obama is going to take over the European Union LOL And are you calling him the Anti Christ?

 

Good. I can hardly wait for that. Maybe then this country will be fun again.

 

No I do not believe that he is the anti-christ, because in the bible it says he has to be brought up by the european union (not those exact words of course)
Do I think he is going to take over the european union, actually I do, Henry Kissinger said so himself, that he is being primed for the head of the euorpean union. What they want to do is have Blair and Obama run the whole thing.
Please don't misunderstand my post, OBAMA is in no, way, shape or form the anti-christ, he doesn't meet the qualifications

 

that is just loony as heck, but what the hey

 

Wow.

The " Obama " is Hitler, this and that, the antiChrist, the socialist enemy from within is only hurting the credibility of the conservative movement, the same as it hurt the Lib movement.

Attacks and slander do nothing but impune the attacker. An intelligent debate takes place with two well armed adversaries of different opinioins who can discuss issues.

When we disagree with issues, be concise and accurate. Document your sources. Back up your facts.

If not, you appear as an emotional radical. That will move nothing no where except those folks opinions who read your spiel, they will begin to doubt your credibility.

 

Awww, c'mon. Let him continue this path of mental illness.

 

Very well said Jack

 

I never said either one of those things,(about OBAMA) and I even clarified that. I was sarcastically telling Craig to wait for them, as I believe they will happen, and it seems as though he doesn't.

 

Them? What them? I got the anti-christ thing. But do you mean the return of Hitler as part of ''them''?

 

Them, the anti-christ and OBAMA leading the european union.

 

So you're a prophet amongst other things?
The anti Christ? Who is it? Can we find it in a quatrain from Nostradamus?