Tea Party Responsible for shooting?

Huh?

 

Indeed. I'd still like to know what standard would be used for a "civility board". If Dupnik wants to create one, let its only tenet be the First Amendment, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Let him be the only member on his "civility board" and any action must be approved by two or more members of his board.

 

And yet we are all able to agree that yelling "Fire!" in a movie theater is a bad idea.

 

You mean like Kanjorski's "Put him against the wall and shoot him."?

 

" If they bring a knife, We'll bring a gun ", wasn't it Sarah Palin that said that? If I am wrong, please correct me ?

 

You are corrected. Obama himself.

 

The key phrase there is "we are all able to agree...". I don't want a "civility board" made up of X number of members deciding how to regulate your or my speech.

 

Strangely...I seem to agree.

 

In all seriousness Tom, as much as you and I disagree, I don't want anyone to be able to regulate or inhibit your right to free speech. The moment that happens, mine is also inhibited.

 

I completely agree. However, all must remember that is a two edged sword. If you want free speech, they have free speech. When you want them not to say....., then you will not be able to say....

 

Very true (so long as we're talking about actual free speech and not equating political speech to cash or to be relative to how much cash it takes to buy that same "free" speech).

 

I wouldn't say that is a safe assumption.

Loughner also kept speaking of his "freedom of thought," the report said. An officer put him through "a channel of basic reasoning questions." One was whether it's OK to yell "fire" in a crowded theater. "Loughner's thought process through the freedom of speech thinking is yes, that is acceptable because he has the freedom of speech and there is no consequence."

The report noted "that there might be a mental health concern involved with Loughner."

College officials reported Loughner's 'creepy,' 'hostile' behavior - CNN.com

 

Freedom of speach is fine as long as it refrains from placing others in danger and also as long as the speaker is aware that they are in fact responsible for the resulting actions caused by there words

 

I am not sure just where you are going with that responsible bit. If you are saying you are responsible for the results of yelling fire in a theater, I completely agree. If you are trying to imply that Palin et al are in any way responsible for any hate crimes out there, I pray that it never approaches that in this country and hopefully the constitution will be upheld in this regard.

 

If you ask me, the real issue here is the abuse of freedom of speech not the right we have to practice freedom of speech. We seem to be very clear that we are able to pretty much say whatever we want without fear of persecution but some people have to push the limits of sanity to draw attention to themselves. Like any other tool, freedom of speech can be a weapon in the wrong hands.

 

You mean like Kanjorski's "Put him against the wall and shoot him."?

 

I still don't know who Kanjorski is but he/she sounds like an idiot but then again I don't know in what context he/she made the remark in either. But hey, if you are going to keep repeating this line, just put it in your sig line with the rest of the out of context comments we all ignore.

 

I posted this info before, but just for you. If need be, I am sure we can dig up a lot more.

See Paul Kanjorski Pleads For Civility After Calling For Rick Scott To Be Shot
Not even Fox

On a side note, he lost. I wonder why.

 

Like I said, an Idiot! That type of comment is exactly what I meant by freedom of speech in the wrong hands can be a weapon.

BTW He lost because his party doesn't support that kind rhetoric. Unlike Republicans that thrust people that make comments like that to the forefront of their party.

 

I think either party would have voted him out for comments like that.

How much more "forefront" can you get than Obama with his "if they bring a knife, we'll bring a gun" comment?