Tariffs - There is substance in this move

We can produce more agricultural products than most other countries. Tariffs are a fantastic negotiation tool yet the low information/ ignorant people that reside in this country need to be educated.
We need to address regulations also…
https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/new...t-usa-label-claim-enhance-consumer-protection

 

Doesn't change the fact that the meat sold to the US market by Smithfield or JBS are sourced and processed in the US.

I agree it is perplexing. WH Group (Chinese firm) is allowed to buy Smithfield, JBS a (Brazilian Firm) buys Swift but a big no way for Nippon Steel.

 

OK. Tariffs are the new "POTUS TRUMP IS A BIG FAT DOODOO POOPING TROUBLEMAKER" complaint.

Some questions, please, so I can learn:

If there were no tariffs levied by any country or government in the world, what would be the result?

What is imported into the U.S. that we can not make/grow/produce/sell in the U.S.?

What do we absolutely have to have imported into the U.S.?

Why do we have to import whatever is absolutely needed to be imported into the U.S.?

Now, answer the above questions from the perspective of the foreign country/government asking the same questions concerning imports from the U.S.

Teach me.....

 

What’s this free coffee BS? Where the hell did you grow up? . . . Sorry, poor choice of words . . . Where did you come from?

 

Did you never have a coffee machine at your work stocked by the employer? It's never usually good coffee, but nearly all the places I've been had one. At some places it was stocked communally by coffee drinking employees, but most had an employer stocked machine.

 

I never worked at a commune . . . and I thought only pregnant women were expectant.

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ maybe it's a lab work thing

 

I think "tariffs" make sense vs bad actors. For example best way to cripple the economies of rogue regimes is thru high tariffs. So, why not apply 500 percent tariffs on Russia/ China? This way nobody in US will buy their exports, then you have a chain reaction where despots like Xi and Putin can no longer expand their war machine, threaten neighbours, have influence in Africa, South China Sea. This way Iran/ Belarus may have democratic movements, even N. Korea would be left to hang by China. Best way to destroy your enemies is thru economic warfare.

 

And tariffs are detrimental to coin collectors in US, all foreign auctions are tacking on Country of origin tariffs to invoices.

 

I understand your thoughts, however, there is an undercurrent of emotion in the reply.

Apply the exercise I suggested, absent emotion. I do not agree your favorability reasons (rogue regimes?) prevents any military growth or cripples an economy.

What world wars or major conflicts between governments/countries were initiated as a result of tariffs? Yes, there is a mistaken belief that the attack by Japan on Pearl Harbor was due to oil tariffs. No.

Coins, no, not really, a collector has many choices to avoid VAT, and/or tariffs concerning collectibles.

 

On the "coin front" I agree. I myself, have won/ bought in past 30 yrs, from EU/ UK/ Swiss/ Japanese/ Australian/ US auctions/ dealers MA-shops close to 2M in rare coins. For 95% of the shipments/ sent "discreet" ZERO VAT. So there are ways to avoid "tariffs".
I think with Japan, situation with US. There was the ongoing war vs China/ with US aiding Nationalist forces. Also with trade embargos, Japan lacking resources, esp. oil
made a big gamble, Philippines/ Dutch East Indies/ Singapore/ Hong Kong/ American Fleet Pearl Harbour.
Germany had insisted wisely that Japan NOT attack any US territory, to keep America neutral. Instead invade FE Russia to keep Soviet Siberian forces to face Japanese. This would have kept them from Western USSR front. This way Finnish-German forces take Leningrad/ Army Group Center, Moscow/ Army Group South Baku Oil Fields/ War over. NO oil/ Red Army finished. Japanese Imperial forces still would take Hong-Kong/ Malaya/ Dutch East Indies= oil/ rubber/ minerals.
The politicians should leave military strategy to the experts, a quote from the brilliant Feld Marschall Erich von Manstein. Germany in WW2 had the best trained soldiers, able officers, who followed orders from excellent Generals, who had to fight with stubbornly ignorant political masters, this lost them the War.

One thing that Americans did well, they designed the most awesome cars back in the 50s/ 60s. Back then you could ID every car, today cars are bland, no bizazz!
I am German, but nothing beat a 67 vette. I have a 58, almost as nice

 

That was not the reason, although I agree it was a popular excuse fomented by Chenault. It was the aggressive actions of Japan to control Asia, and did so via a plan of colonization. The oil issue, while certainly undertaken to thwart the intentions of Japan to be a Super Power, that was not the reason. If someone believes this, that person must explain the actions of Japan concerning Korea and Manchuria and French Indochina, as examples. Japan was convinced the U.S. would "colonize" Asia, robbing Japan of the status they were convinced was their Right....the World Super Power of all Asia.

You are relying on the historical result of WWII and the battle plans and conclusions to explain your thoughts concerning Tariffs.

Design of the Muscle Car Era? I wholeheartedly agree, and we will never experience that glory, again, regardless of any tariffs.

 

Well at least we can still drive them. Although with my work hrs/ dawn to dusk/ I be driving my GMC Sierra truck most of the time. Here is mine. New C-4 Drivetrain/ new interior/ new 58 body/ chrome/ trim. LS-4 475 HP engine/ headers/ automatic 5 speed.

 

So what?????

 

If there were no tariffs one would have to look at the other trade and business impediments imposed by governments. Quotas, taxes, regulations and etc.

As for what is imported into the US we cannot make/grow/produce/sell in the US and what is absolutely needed will return an answer based entirely on personal preferences of each individual. Cocoa popped into mind. Believe it or not some people don't like chocolate so to some it is not necessary. Smart phones are they necessary - I still use a flip phone.

 

To date, roughly 50 nations have reached out to the White House to negotiate on tariffs. Trump's move is definitely having the desired effect.

Still, China has done a better job of establishing its consumerist economy than most other nations ever imagined it would, but they did not manage to do as much as they planned. The same might be said of India. It remains to be seen if they will negotiate.

The real question is, will all impacted nations come to the table, or can some weather the storm?

Time will tell whether we continue doing business with so many nations across the globe, or if some isolate themselves economically. Trump has laid before them the opportunity to reach out and negotiate trade parity . . . Now it's their turn to decide if they want to gamble on the retention of an unlevel playing field, or risk losing what progress they've made in recent years.

 

Answer my suggested questions, Clown
That rice you may be consuming in ROK? It most likely was grown and imported by ROK.

OK. OK, how do I know this?
The previous Minister of Rice Imports was....wait....wait....wait... My beloved wife's elder Brother: Yi Pyong O.

Oh Oh, I almost forgot:

CLOWN.

 

Baloney... Cocoa? Smart phones? THIS IS YOUR COUNTER ARGUMENT?

Jesus, either you are sadly misinformed, or maybe you did not understand the suggested questions.

 

Maybe this is the source of your lack of understanding the concept and structure of a Federal Republic.

IT IS NOT ABOUT YOU....THE INDIVIDUAL.... OR YOUR PERSONAL PREFERANCES.