Survival of the fittest

Discussion in 'Chatter' started by hugo, Feb 16, 2008.

  1. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er

    A truly wise man.
     
  2. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    Well, a lot of his beliefs were proven wrong as well.

    I always wondered why he was against public schools when his father was a school teacher and he was an assistant school master.


    I do believe modern society has completely removed the survival of the fittest part of human development and is most likely the cause of so much disease. Things like government handouts and modern medicine has made it possible for the sick and lazy to not only survive long enough to pass on their genetic code, but they have been able to take over society.


    Now it is acceptable to be a lifetime welfare recepient and to breed countless numbers of children into the same existance.

    And they all vote liberal, imagine that.
     
  3. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er

    Thank God abortion is legal or Al Gore would be President.

    A lot of Aristotle's beliefs were proven wrong. Spencer''s basic point that subsidizing the poor is bad for society has IMO been proven correct.
     
  4. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    well I can see two flaws in his thinking right here.

    Quit the opposite. I would think that it would create more monopolies. Bigger business would simply out buy smaller ones.

    This one is total nonsense. disease is none discriminative and would wipe out everybody and not just the ignorant.
     
  5. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    Only two?


    Case in point, Wal-Mart.

    Everywhere they go, they cause the closing of several businesses.


    Well, if the poor could not get medical attention, then I could see his point of disease "culling out the herd" but if you make medicine available to everyone, then we are all similar in that area.



    The only real problem I see in his theory is if you kill off all the poor and close to poor, who is buying the goods and services of the companies?
     
  6. Old Salt

    Old Salt Big Time BS

    And who is going to work to produce those goods? You would ultimately end up with a population of CEOs.
     
  7. wez

    wez Big Time BS

    The non poor would then be forced to create more poor from the non poor because if they didn't have peoples misery to build themselves on, they would lose their identity and go insane.. Make no mistake, money = human value.. :rolleyes:
     
  8. wez

    wez Big Time BS



    Ish... count me out.. Put me in a leper colony anyday...Better company.



    White collar conservative flashin down the street, pointing that plastic finger at me, they all assume my kind will drop and die, but I'm gonna wave my freak flag high. ~ Jimi Hendrix

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    The funniest part.. the opposite of who most people think would survive, would actually survive.. People that need other people to do for them through labels, intimidation, hypocrisy, and consequences will surely fade into the annals of history.. no more control freaks.


    The real welfare cases wear suits and ties and ride in limo's as they tell everyone what to do, or else. ~ wez
     
  9. wez

    wez Big Time BS

    So the problem isn't killing someone because they have no money, but rather, who will buy the goods? if they have no money, how will they buy the goods anyways? Please explain...


    I'd have thought you were being sarcastic but I know you're all business, all the time.. Think about how that jives with your stance on abortion.. Makes no sense to me.

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    You go to church TJ? :rolleyes:


    Kay killer, I got a great idea, lets make everyone pay all their debts by noon Friday, No pay, off with the head... I'm safe, are you? I don't owe anyone in this world one thin dime... I'd say that would identify the poor pretty quickly and we can end this charade.. What do ya say? Sound good?

    I'll shut up now til you get out of Sunday Mass...
     
  10. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er


    Wrong, there are few cases of natural monopolies. Technology is making those fewer. Phone service was once a natural monopoply. Most monopolies and oligarchies are the result of corporations getting benefits from government; often in the form of setting up barriers to entry.

    Contagious diseases throughout history have always been more prevalent among the poor. God, in his divine wisdom, limited the number of misfits before man decided the misfits needed help.
     
  11. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er

    They also cause the growth or creation of several businesses.
     
  12. wez

    wez Big Time BS


    The true poor got smart, put on suits, and created those barriers because they are too stupid to compete honestly.

    Much easier to just kill someone and scare everyone else..
     
  13. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er

    To paraphrase a certain jewish philosopher the poor will always be with us. We don't need to subsidize them.
     
  14. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er

    Government is essentially immoral.
    Herbert Spencer

    Hero-worship is strongest where there is least regard for human freedom.
    Herbert Spencer

    How often misused words generate misleading thoughts.
    Herbert Spencer

    In science the important thing is to modify and change one's ideas as science advances.
    Herbert Spencer


    Marriage: a ceremony in which rings are put on the finger of the lady and through the nose of the gentleman.
    Herbert Spencer


    No one can be perfectly free till all are free; no one can be perfectly moral till all are moral; no one can be perfectly happy till all are happy.
    Herbert Spencer

    Old forms of government finally grow so oppressive that they must be thrown off even at the risk of reigns of terror.
    Herbert Spencer

    Society exists for the benefit of its members, not the members for the benefit of society.
    Herbert Spencer
     
  15. wez

    wez Big Time BS

    Awsome quotes... Seems like a wise man... specially liked this one..


    Marriage: a ceremony in which rings are put on the finger of the lady and through the nose of the gentleman. ~ Herbert Spencer :D
     
  16. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    Please explain natural monopoly. The begging of the phone was a prime example of a rich person Grahm Bell trying to monopolize. Although he succeed in is time it didn't and couldn't continue. Another is the Howard Hews fighting the monopoly of Pan Am. Then we go to the US Postal Service which had to give up it's monopoly. The government intervened in these cases.

    Yeah well we aren't talking about the black plague now are we. Even though it was no-discriminative either. When should this selection start? Tomorrow? It's a pipe dream that could never happen. We can't send all the poor people to a leopard colony and assume it won't leave the island now can we. You think disease is going to weed out the poor you are sadly mistaken. That's pretty damn funny.
     
  17. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    Here's another wastefully thought. The fit would inherit laziness, stupidity and immorality. The destitute would strive for intuitiveness, education and morality. Just look how Rome fell.
     
  18. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    In my opinion, Rome fell once they started changing their faith.

    Every great society has had one thing in common, a common belief structure. When you play games with the thread that tied your society together, you risk everything falling apart.


    As we are seeing in America now.
     
  19. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er

    Er...the post office was a government imposed monopoly. The federal government finally decided to allow competition. Utilities is an example of a natural monopoly. Phone service , in the pre-wireless era, was a natural monopoly that needed government regulation. That is no longer true.
     
  20. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er

    Natural selection works without "we" having to do anything besides stop robbing from Peter and giving to Paul.
     

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