This dude consistantly advocates genocide against all Muslims. I will not "give it a rest" while people are advocating genocide, that would be unethical and immoral, and act of cowdardice. As for your out of context scrap of Mchistory it only serves to prove the danger of guys like Midas weather they be Muslims, Neocons, or Nazis.
Too right,we can learn a lot from people.As a result,we can broaden our horizons & improve our world view. Aidan.
I have seen Midas advocate the killing of terrorists, the people who advocate the killing of YOU, thats right YOU Danr. They dont care about your life, if a terrorist had a chance he would kill any of us on this forum if he saw that it would bring him glory or whatever. I have not seen Midas advocating the killing of all muslims, I have even seen him admit that not all muslims are evil. So your point is no longer valid, now go home.
coindude you have not seen much of this guy's work http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=14733 Also a constant barage of imagery designed to make all Muslims look like terrorists. This guy is spreading hate. If your moral fabric allows for his level of hate you are morally inadequate.
I don't know how you can twist this. It's all in their koran!: Instructions to Muslims regarding Christians and Jews Prophet Mohammed has reserved special position for certain sects of Unbelievers in his so called "Holy Book" Koran. Those unbelievers are none other than followers of Christianity and Judaism. Here are a selected few verses from Koran to display what Muslims are taught and instructed as far as treating Christians and Jews is concerned. Koran 5:51 Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrong-doers. In this verse Prophet Mohammed is clearly instructing his followers never to befriend a Christian or a Jew. Because if they take a Christian or a Jew as a friend, they will commit a wrong deed and Allah's wrath will be on them. Koran 5:57 Believers, do not seek the friendship of the infidels and those who were given the Book before you, who have made your religion a jest and a pasttime... Here "those who were given the Book before you" refers to Christians and Jews. Once again Mohammed is warning Muslims of all time never to befriend a Christian or a Jew. Koran 5:64 The Jews say: 'God's hand is chained.' May their own hands be chained! May they be cursed for what they say!... In the above verse Prophet Mohammed is showing his deep respect for the Jews. Koran 9:29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued. Here 'People of the Book' refers to Christians and Jews. The 'Religion Of Truth' refers to Islam. So in the above verse Prophet Mohammed is instructing Muslims to fight and torture Christians and Jews (who do not believe in Islamic version of God) until they pay tax to Muslims for their existence. Muslims are also strictly instructed to make the Christians and Jews feel 'subdued'. Allah is truly benign !!! Koran 9:30 The Jews call 'Uzayr-a son of God', and the Christinas call 'Christ the Son Of God'. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but intimate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are decluded away from the Truth. Here Prophet Mohammed is wishing that Allah's curse be on Jews and Christians. And what did the Christians and Jews do for such special favour from Allah ? All they did is that out of respect and love, they called their Prophets 'son of God'. I just wonder if your friends would say this work from their prophet is all garbage. Remember...there are millions of muslims that are following these words and worst yet, LIVING it! If they denounce these passages (publically) plus about 100 more, they are alright in my book.
You're speading hate as well. Honestly I dont see Midas as having that bad a view on things, it seems more realistic than anything. You however seem to have a rather optomistic view, so why dont you take some of your own advice and go stop the terrorists from speading the hate, $50 says you get shot in the first 5 minutes.
You would have to look far and wide to find a "terrorist". They simply are VERY rare. Terrorism is an exaggerated problem. Unfortunately guys like Midas help to spread this myth. here is a list a just a few things that are more dangerous than terrorists: -drunk drivers -slipping in the tub -owning a fire arm -skiing -driving -smoking -eating (more people choke while eating than die of terrorism). This list could go on forever.
I am more dangerous then a terrorist then? I own a gun, I own several guns in fact, Heck I'm in the NRA!
I am from Arizona and everyone has guns here (I am not anti gun, nor am I anti eating). But to answer your question the likelihood of you dying from a gun accident is orders of magnitude larger than your being offed by a "terrorist". There simply are not terrorists, it is a phoney threat that benefits a very evil group of people (who happen to be running the country right now).
But for how long will we be safe? What if the movment spreads and there are terrorists everywhere? Then you'll be eating crow and I'll be clinging to my shotgun.
Coindude the threat is from this Bush mafia taking our rights away and using this phoney terrorism cr*p to do it. That is what you should be afraid of.
Im not afraid of politicians, Ive seen what you should be afraid of, radical muslims turning on their neighbors and tearing a country appart (fmr Yugoslavia). Untill you experience it, dont talk.
Now...I DO want to hear your experiences from radical islam. You seen and lived it. Infidels like me would like to hear what you experienced so others can understand why the US (and its allies) is fighting islamic terrorism. Don't hold back...the forum is yours. People need to know what YOU experienced. If it is too painful to relive, I can understand that too, but people in the west sitting in the comforts of their home need to understand EXACTLY what kind of animal we are fighting.
Sorry you had to go through that but in the USA we value our freedoms above life. And these particular politicians are threatening our freedoms. Further the Muslims were not the ONLY ones causing that trouble (not that I excuse them). Having seen that I would assume that you would hold hate mongers in disdain, instead you seem to hve focused on the particular group involved (let me tell you any group can do great evil, not just Muslims. Anyway I really am sorry you had to go through that.
In the village my grandfather is from my uncle had his throat cut infront of his children and wife by his muslim neighbors because they belived he had gold in his house. Then then proceeded to tear the house appart and found nothing. Serbian Orthodox Churches some over 900 years old were burned out by mulsims because they belived that the serbs in kosovo are infadels and islam is the only religion. This was not a minority doing this, this was the majority. So you can tell me that terrorism is an isolated thing, but in Kosovo it was, and still is the norm. I have hundreds of other stories including how the western media downplayed the muslim terrorism in Kosovo and overplayed the Serbian response to an invasion on their land by "ethnic albanians" aka muslims wanting to take the serbian holy land of Kosovo away from the people who have lived there and practiced their religion there for over 1000 years.
I dare you to downplay that Danr, tell me Im overreacting, tell me that I am wrong, tell me that the thousands who were murdered werent and that Im making it all up, I really want to own you now because you sit here in america and complain about how your freedons are being infringed on... atleast your government can keep the nation together and atleast your neighbors arent going to kill you if they think you have money.
It is widely believed (though it may be inaccurate) that many of the worst actions were committed by the Serbs. Sorry to tell you this but that is what the history books will say.
O.k. Danr, you can't have it both ways! Either you believe in what the history books say, or you don't believe them. It seems that you pick and choose what you think backs up your side of the discussion. My-o-my!:kewl: