On Jan 16, 9:38 pm, dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:41:06 -0800 (PST), Slipped Moebius > > > > <erroneouscorrect...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >On Jan 16, 4:50 pm, dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote: > >> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:31:03 -0800, Aratzio <a6ahly...@sneakemail.com> > >> wrote: > > >> >On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:04:24 -0800 (PST), in the land of > >> >alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Slipped Moebius > >> ><erroneouscorrect...@yahoo.com> got double secret probation for > >> >writing: > > >> >>On Jan 15, 9:12 pm, dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote: > >> >>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:52:26 -0500, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> > >> >>> wrote: > > >> >>> >On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:00:03 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: > > >> >>> >> im reduced to writing ladder logic programs for one of my project > >> >>> >> pieces. gawds. > > >> >>> >I don't like it when people use "logic" for anything but Boolean/ > >> >>> >propositional deduction. > > >> >>> >It whiffs too much of, say, sticking an adjective on "justice". > > >> >>> tell it to GE Fanuc, Allen Bradley, et al....... > > >> >>If you mention Fanuc ever again, ever, I will rip your fooken head > >> >>off. > > >> >>Clear? > > >> >mmmmm, monkey brains. > > >> i used to love little ge fanuc plc's. love them. true. > > >You use heroin. I can tell. > > if only. > > theyre so ky00t!!! > Yeah. Rilly ky00t. Especially when I need my controls to react within milliseconds to a program change but the plc has too slow a loop time and no read-ahead. Ky00t and cuddly, even. But to be fair, I am talking about an old fanuc control. Maybe they've become better over the years. Or maybe I'm spoiled with newer unt kooler plcs. Either way, I prefer Mitsubishi. -- Slipped Moebius mhm28x9
On Jan 17, 12:47 am, psykoexgirlfriend <psykoexgirlfri...@hotmail.com> wrote: > dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote innews:3hqto3da8tbacd8blfishumenvlnd7ffbh@4ax.com: > > > > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:58:08 GMT, psykoexgirlfriend > > <psykoexgirlfri...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote in > >>news:5meqo3ps3ca636rokc24l3hcah0thkfmu4@4ax.com: > > >>> im reduced to writing ladder logic programs for one of my project > >>> pieces. gawds. > > >>what is this > > >>i prefer your slow cooked pork products post > > >>at least pork is universally loved > > >>well cept for the musl... > > > ladder logic is a language that was introduced by manufacturers to be > > as close to relay logic, the old way things were done, in > > manufacturing environs. FYI. HTH. FOAD. > > please stop me from googling relay logic. Google Kaitlin Joyce instead. -- Slipped Moebius mhm28x9
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:41:09 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:58:08 GMT, psykoexgirlfriend > <psykoexgirlfriend@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in >>news:5meqo3ps3ca636rokc24l3hcah0thkfmu4@4ax.com: >> >>> im reduced to writing ladder logic programs for one of my project >>> pieces. gawds. >> >>what is this >> >>i prefer your slow cooked pork products post >> >>at least pork is universally loved >> >>well cept for the musl... > > ladder logic is a language that was introduced by manufacturers to be > as close to relay logic, the old way things were done, in > manufacturing environs. FYI. HTH. FOAD. Why did they do that, for backward compatibility with designers' minds? "Our Asian regional division has introduced the newest and most exciting of our family of proprietary visual programming language interfaces, Abacus!" <point-click-drag> <point-click-drag> <point-click-drag> . . . . -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 When a system is set up to accomplish some goal, a new entity has come into being--the system itself. No matter what the "goal" of the system, it immediately begins to exhibit system behavior; that is, to act according to the general laws that govern the operation of all systems. Now the system itself has to be dealt with. < _Systemantics_
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:47:07 GMT, psykoexgirlfriend <psykoexgirlfriend@hotmail.com> wrote: >dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in >news:3hqto3da8tbacd8blfishumenvlnd7ffbh@4ax.com: > >> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:58:08 GMT, psykoexgirlfriend >> <psykoexgirlfriend@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in >>>news:5meqo3ps3ca636rokc24l3hcah0thkfmu4@4ax.com: >>> >>>> im reduced to writing ladder logic programs for one of my project >>>> pieces. gawds. >>>> >>> >>>what is this >>> >>>i prefer your slow cooked pork products post >>> >>>at least pork is universally loved >>> >>>well cept for the musl... >> >> ladder logic is a language that was introduced by manufacturers to be >> as close to relay logic, the old way things were done, in >> manufacturing environs. FYI. HTH. FOAD. >> > >please stop me from googling relay logic. sorry. cant do. go at your peril. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj <This space for rent.>
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 04:17:30 -0800 (PST), Slipped Moebius <erroneouscorrection@yahoo.com> wrote: >On Jan 16, 9:38 pm, dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote: >> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:41:06 -0800 (PST), Slipped Moebius >> >> >> >> <erroneouscorrect...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >On Jan 16, 4:50 pm, dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote: >> >> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:31:03 -0800, Aratzio <a6ahly...@sneakemail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:04:24 -0800 (PST), in the land of >> >> >alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, Slipped Moebius >> >> ><erroneouscorrect...@yahoo.com> got double secret probation for >> >> >writing: >> >> >> >>On Jan 15, 9:12 pm, dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote: >> >> >>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:52:26 -0500, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:00:03 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> im reduced to writing ladder logic programs for one of my project >> >> >>> >> pieces. gawds. >> >> >> >>> >I don't like it when people use "logic" for anything but Boolean/ >> >> >>> >propositional deduction. >> >> >> >>> >It whiffs too much of, say, sticking an adjective on "justice". >> >> >> >>> tell it to GE Fanuc, Allen Bradley, et al....... >> >> >> >>If you mention Fanuc ever again, ever, I will rip your fooken head >> >> >>off. >> >> >> >>Clear? >> >> >> >mmmmm, monkey brains. >> >> >> i used to love little ge fanuc plc's. love them. true. >> >> >You use heroin. I can tell. >> >> if only. >> >> theyre so ky00t!!! >> > > Yeah. Rilly ky00t. Especially when I need my controls to react within >milliseconds to a program change but the plc has too slow a loop time >and no read-ahead. Ky00t and cuddly, even. > >But to be fair, I am talking about an old fanuc control. Maybe they've >become better over the years. Or maybe I'm spoiled with newer unt >kooler plcs. > >Either way, > >I prefer Mitsubishi. i prefer rolling my own controller out of microcontrollers and duct tape. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj <This space for rent.>
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 04:19:32 -0800 (PST), Slipped Moebius <erroneouscorrection@yahoo.com> wrote: >On Jan 17, 12:47 am, psykoexgirlfriend <psykoexgirlfri...@hotmail.com> >wrote: >> dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote innews:3hqto3da8tbacd8blfishumenvlnd7ffbh@4ax.com: >> >> >> >> > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:58:08 GMT, psykoexgirlfriend >> > <psykoexgirlfri...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote in >> >>news:5meqo3ps3ca636rokc24l3hcah0thkfmu4@4ax.com: >> >> >>> im reduced to writing ladder logic programs for one of my project >> >>> pieces. gawds. >> >> >>what is this >> >> >>i prefer your slow cooked pork products post >> >> >>at least pork is universally loved >> >> >>well cept for the musl... >> >> > ladder logic is a language that was introduced by manufacturers to be >> > as close to relay logic, the old way things were done, in >> > manufacturing environs. FYI. HTH. FOAD. >> >> please stop me from googling relay logic. > >Google Kaitlin Joyce instead. bitch -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj <This space for rent.>
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:14:09 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote: >On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:41:09 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: > >> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:58:08 GMT, psykoexgirlfriend >> <psykoexgirlfriend@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in >>>news:5meqo3ps3ca636rokc24l3hcah0thkfmu4@4ax.com: >>> >>>> im reduced to writing ladder logic programs for one of my project >>>> pieces. gawds. >>> >>>what is this >>> >>>i prefer your slow cooked pork products post >>> >>>at least pork is universally loved >>> >>>well cept for the musl... >> >> ladder logic is a language that was introduced by manufacturers to be >> as close to relay logic, the old way things were done, in >> manufacturing environs. FYI. HTH. FOAD. > >Why did they do that, for backward compatibility with designers' minds? > >"Our Asian regional division has introduced the newest and most exciting >of our family of proprietary visual programming language interfaces, >Abacus!" > ><point-click-drag> ><point-click-drag> ><point-click-drag> > . . . . it was created that way, as ladder logic, because it mirrored the relay logic everyone was used to. it looked the same, even though it was on a computer monitor. it felt mostly the same. hence, it was readily accepted by manufacturing due to its small training requirements with the electricians of the time. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj <This space for rent.>
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:39:54 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:14:09 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >>On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:41:09 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:58:08 GMT, psykoexgirlfriend >>> <psykoexgirlfriend@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in >>>>news:5meqo3ps3ca636rokc24l3hcah0thkfmu4@4ax.com: >>>> >>>>> im reduced to writing ladder logic programs for one of my project >>>>> pieces. gawds. >>>> >>>>what is this >>>> >>>>i prefer your slow cooked pork products post >>>> >>>>at least pork is universally loved >>>> >>>>well cept for the musl... >>> >>> ladder logic is a language that was introduced by manufacturers to be >>> as close to relay logic, the old way things were done, in >>> manufacturing environs. FYI. HTH. FOAD. >> >>Why did they do that, for backward compatibility with designers' minds? >> >>"Our Asian regional division has introduced the newest and most exciting >>of our family of proprietary visual programming language interfaces, >>Abacus!" >> >><point-click-drag> >><point-click-drag> >><point-click-drag> >> . . . . > > it was created that way, as ladder logic, because it mirrored the > relay logic everyone was used to. it looked the same, even though it > was on a computer monitor. it felt mostly the same. hence, it was > readily accepted by manufacturing due to its small training > requirements with the electricians of the time. Wot I asked. -- tinmimus99@hotmail.com smeeter 11 or maybe 12 mp 10 mhm 29x13 You want a job and a lizard to ride? < _The Einstein Intersection_
On Jan 17, 6:31 pm, dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 04:19:32 -0800 (PST), Slipped Moebius > > > > <erroneouscorrect...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >On Jan 17, 12:47 am, psykoexgirlfriend <psykoexgirlfri...@hotmail.com> > >wrote: > >> dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote innews:3hqto3da8tbacd8blfishumenvlnd7ffbh@4ax.com: > > >> > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:58:08 GMT, psykoexgirlfriend > >> > <psykoexgirlfri...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> >>dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote in > >> >>news:5meqo3ps3ca636rokc24l3hcah0thkfmu4@4ax.com: > > >> >>> im reduced to writing ladder logic programs for one of my project > >> >>> pieces. gawds. > > >> >>what is this > > >> >>i prefer your slow cooked pork products post > > >> >>at least pork is universally loved > > >> >>well cept for the musl... > > >> > ladder logic is a language that was introduced by manufacturers to be > >> > as close to relay logic, the old way things were done, in > >> > manufacturing environs. FYI. HTH. FOAD. > > >> please stop me from googling relay logic. > > >Google Kaitlin Joyce instead. > > bitch > I <3 teh usenetizens. -- Slipped Moebius mhm289
dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in news:0920p3tm4r6er1pufdtbcafl4k3lp6t74l@4ax.com: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:47:07 GMT, psykoexgirlfriend > <psykoexgirlfriend@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in >>news:3hqto3da8tbacd8blfishumenvlnd7ffbh@4ax.com: >> >>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:58:08 GMT, psykoexgirlfriend >>> <psykoexgirlfriend@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in >>>>news:5meqo3ps3ca636rokc24l3hcah0thkfmu4@4ax.com: >>>> >>>>> im reduced to writing ladder logic programs for one of my project >>>>> pieces. gawds. >>>>> >>>> >>>>what is this >>>> >>>>i prefer your slow cooked pork products post >>>> >>>>at least pork is universally loved >>>> >>>>well cept for the musl... >>> >>> ladder logic is a language that was introduced by manufacturers to be >>> as close to relay logic, the old way things were done, in >>> manufacturing environs. FYI. HTH. FOAD. >>> >> >>please stop me from googling relay logic. > > sorry. cant do. go at your peril. > is this treasure at the end of hte rainbow?
