Copy paste time (no bold though): After the pandemic began in March, the number of excess deaths in the United States rose for all American adults. During the summer, as the pandemic eased, the rate of excess mortality declined among older Americans but remained unusually high among young adults. When statisticians at the Centers for Disease Control totaled the excess deaths for age groups through the end of September, they reported that the sharpest change—an increase of 26.5 percent—occurred among Americans aged 25 to 44. That trend persisted through fall, and most of the excess deaths among younger people were not linked to the coronavirus, as researchers from the University of Illinois found by analyzing excess deaths from March through the end of November. Among Americans aged 15 to 54, there were roughly 56,000 excess deaths, of which about 22,000 involved Covid-19, leaving 34,000 from other causes. The Canadian government also reported especially high mortality among Canadians under 45: nearly 1,700 excess deaths from May through November, with only 50 of those deaths attributed to Covid-19. https://www.city-journal.org/death-and-lockdowns @yakpoo it is clear that people have completely ignored trade-offs. While looking to save lives from Covid, almost every other threat has been brushed aside. The answer has long been clear: you have to protect the older population and other immunocompromised people. A lockdown of all has not been the right decision. Maybe in the far future people will look at all the data and figure out the errors of the past two years.
I see nowhere in your patchwork of reasons that even slightly indicates that any number of deaths outside of COVID deaths are associated with any preventative measures whatsoever. Tradeoffs my ass.
When have you ever heard me tell anyone (old or not) to die? Even if I did, who would do it? I tell you to jump in a lake all the time...but do you do it?
Dan Patrick says “there are more important things than living and that’s saving this country” Patrick went on Fox News on Monday evening to defend comments he made last month where he said he would rather die from the widely spreading coronavirus than see the economy destroyed for his children and grandchildren. https://www.texastribune.org/2020/04/21/texas-dan-patrick-economy-coronavirus/
what does Sweden have to do with it. you're just contradicting yourself for the sake of argument. We've lost 647,000 in the US
Yes...and imagine how much lower that would have been had we protected the elderly and left everything else alone? ...like Sweden. I'm glad we did what we did...until we had time to administer vaccine to all those who wanted it. It's over now. Let it go.
Modelers Suggest Pandemic Lockdowns Saved Millions From Dying Of COVID-19 June 9, 20201:22 PM ET Two new papers published in the journal Nature say that lockdowns put in place to slow the spread of the coronavirus were highly effective, prevented tens of millions of infections and saved millions of lives. "Our estimates show that lockdowns had a really dramatic effect in reducing transmission," says Samir Bhatt, a senior lecturer at the Imperial College London's School of Public Health, who worked on one of the papers published in Nature. Bhatt's team analyzed infection and death rates in 11 European nations through May 4. They estimate that an additional 3.1 million people in those countries would have died if lockdowns had not been put in place. "Without them we believe the toll would have been huge," Bhatt says. In addition to the paper from Bhatt and his colleagues, Nature also published a separate study from the Global Policy Lab at the University of California, Berkeley. That study analyzed lockdowns in China, South Korea, Iran, France, Italy and the United States. It found that the lockdowns in those six countries averted 62 million confirmed cases. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...ckdowns-saved-millions-from-dying-of-covid-19
“I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived. I did not wish to live what was not life, living is so dear; nor did I wish to practise resignation, unless it was quite necessary. I wanted to live deep and suck out all the marrow of life, to live so sturdily and Spartan-like as to put to rout all that was not life, to cut a broad swath and shave close, to drive life into a corner, and reduce it to its lowest terms...” ― Henry David Thoreau
so you make that decision for yourself. not for everyone else. this shouldn't need to be explained to an adult.
you don't get to decide what's worth dying for for the rest of us I thought you were heading out into the woods to suffer. why are you posting on the internet?
I got my laptop. That's about the only thing everyone has all their own...deciding what's worth dying for. The strange thing is...you gotta do it to know for sure.
