Schoolyard Taunting

Your refusal to bend makes it close to impossible for a conservative to get elected because of the splintering, why is it that concept is beyond your understanding?



Did you ever hear the old saying "United we stand, Divided we fall"?


Divide et impera = divide and rule.

 

Well, go sell that sh*t to your tourists. I know that full and well, but you shouldn't look at me to point the fingers.

Turn your finger towards to the confederacy of fools, the ignorant fringe, who get their news and information from Facebook friends, Entertainment Tonight, American Idol, and the Kardashians.

Walk with the blind man if you must, but my eyes are wide ass open.

esse quam videri - to be rather than to seem

 

Nice dodge but how about answering my question, why is it you cannot understand that splintering, being divided actually helps those you claim to despise?

The Healthcare bill was passed last night because of the splintered malcontents who put the Liberals into power. You only have yourself to blame for their success.




Again, I understand your point in theory, but if they are sticking together, and we are splintering apart, we cannot win.

Divide et impera = divide and rule.

 

As I said in my previous response, I do understand what splintering will do to a party and I have no intention of regretting my vote(s). These socialists, and their big chief, in power were escorted into power for not having an "R" next to their name. The vast majority of people cannot tell the differences between the GOP and "conservative" philosophy, because the administration under Bush diluted such principles as they had.

In order for a "conservative" (I like classical liberalism myself), there will have to be a third party to rise to power from the shambles wrought by the RINOs. That's what I voted for in the 2008 election... to usher in resistance to the New World Order bent on centrally planning our economy and the axis of powers distributed from Washington. I voted against the tyranny of the majority, the whims of idiotic notions of democracy, and the two party system so quick to accept a bribe as to make one.

The groups are not so splintered, however, with the exception of fence-straddling Democrats, Congress passed healthcare legislation with those votes that were bought or coerced and by those who vote along party lines.

"iuris ignorantia est cum ius nostrum ignoramus" - it is ignorance of the law when we do not know our own rights

 

Nice two-step there RO, but if you know that your vote cannot help a conservative minded person win, then your intentionally helping the liberal win, so while you claim with words to believe in conservative values, your actions prove you desire things like this healthcare bill to pass. You could have helped to prevent this kind of thing, but instead you decided to help it by intentionally witholding your support from conservative minded people who could win.


How much harm is done by these liberals while you waste time in the woods searching for a perfection and purity that does not exist?


Divide et impera = divide and rule.

 

At last check, Ron Paul IS a Republican.

If you mean side with someone who has a better chance of winning, then you must've voted for Obama along with the rest of your state. McCain carried Georgia, but I wasn't dumb enough to waste my vote on a RINO who is a 25% socialist.

 

I wrote in Ron Paul for prez as well.. I vowed a decade ago to never vote for another republican or democrat for the rest of my life..


If less people thought as shallow as TJ.. we wouldn't have to play football anymore..

 

I came to that conclusion too late, but a whole lot better than NEVER!

 

No doubt about it.. Spread the word.. best we can do short of pitchforks and torches..

 

He (bam bam) probably carried 3 or 4 counties down here, maybe 10 in the state... But McCain won Georgia by a pretty big margin if I'm not mistaken.

I work in Americus, which is next door to Plains, and Carter shops at the local walmart. They clear out isles so that he can shop. Nobody here (that's white) can stand him. Was that racist?

 

He was a Republican but did not receive the nomination.

The only conservative minded person who could have won the election was McCain, any vote for someone other then McCain was a vote for Obama. Every political expert said it was the independents who gave Obama the election.

 

Though I grasp the point that you're driving at, to a scholarly degree, I think it is simply a matter of principles. McCain is a "conservative", or claims to be, but he is also (as you have said over and over) a 25% socialist, the lesser evil. That is too much to waste my voice on. I can not, in good faith, place my vote for a man who has about two more points of principle than G. Dubya.

And mumber two... get this through your head... Ron Paul IS not an independent. He is a member of the Republican National Party, one of the two major parties in the land. Did you know that, TJ? Did you know that the GOP are Republicans, TJ? I voted for a Republican. Get over yourself.

You say that independents indirectly put Obama in the big seat like you've found the freakin' Holy Grail of excuses. "Oh my God!" and "Eureka!" I can hear it all now. Yet you fail to see that, if McCain were a better choice, a better speaker, a stronger "conservative", and not a RINO; perhaps your boy would be sitting in the White House now. That is not how it ended up, because people will always vote how Hollywood and others tell them to vote.

A vote for Obama, came from those who voted for him. Likewise for McCain. You're just a tired old broken down excuse machine that sounds like Obama when he talks about "inherited problems".

You vote how you want to vote, TJ. That is your right, but don't look down the nose or blame me for all of the country's woes. My state carried McCain, by the way, perhaps you should campaign for the next RINO now to get Florida's support.

I am waiting for your next excuse....

 

Election Center 2008 - Georgia

Election Center 2008 - Florida

The difference between Obama and McCain voters in Georgia is 204,636.

The difference between Obama and McCain voters in Florida is 236,450.

He's a black cultural hero like Robert Downey, JR.

 

I was right on 3 out of 4 of those counties! Sumter, Dougherty, and Terrell. I thought that Crisp county would have gone the way of bam bam too... But I am proven wrong...

 

I am not the one trying to spend a lot of time talking about a guy who was not good enough to get his party nomination. I am not the one talking about "did you know that" when I said myself that he was a Republican so why do you waste time saying it over and over again? Becuse that is better than admitting that you knew only one of two people could win, and you did not vote for the one who was a Conservative minded person. When you admit you helped to add to the splintering of the Conservative people, then how can you not agree that the splintering helps the liberals?

They might not like it, but at the end of the day they stick together, people like you do not.

Voting the way you want to vote is your right RO, but stop pretending to believe in Conservative values when you refuse to help the most conservative person who can win the election. You know when you cast your vote that your actually helping people like Obama by witholding your support from the Conservative who can beat him.



And guess what, why would a more conservative person want to run for office when people like you run them down so much? Why would anyone want to be ripped apart from all directions? If you were more supportive of conservatives of all degree then that wouls encourage other conservative minded people to get into the game.

 

When i went to vote I knew only one person could win. Trying to pretend McCain had a chance to win the Presidency would have been retarded,

 

Because of the independents like you true, you guys handed the election to Obama because of the splintering. Normally conservative people had excuses not to support the only conservative with a chance to win, and their failure to vote conservative caused things like this healthcare bill to be passed.

I just hope these splinter groups learned their lesson, sleeping at the wheel leads to people like Obama

 

Hugo never mentioned who he voted for, but you assume that since he disagrees with you.

I did, however, mention who I voted for. And I would've voted against Jesus H. Christ if his running mate were Sarah Palin. McCain plus Palin equals about a 95% (give or take 2-3 percentage points) socialist that's too much of a cross to bear, let alone in factions unto themselves.

At last update, Ron Paul is still a member of the Republican party. If he switches, you'll be the first to let me know; I'm suspicious.

 

He has said several times he did not vote for McCain and the way he attacks Palin like Cujo, you can tell he would never vote for the conservative ticket.

Right there is why decent conservatives will not run for office very often. You completely distort and lie about their possitions. Palin is as much a socialist as you are. Just because someone supports the laws of the land that does not make them a socialist. Taking the oil away from the people who own it without compensation would have been comminust though, is that the system you want?

Again, nobody was talking about party but who can "WIN" an election in that party. If you vote for Ron Paul when the only conservative running for office against the liberal is McCain then you in reality helped the liberal to win. Why you feel turning your back on conservative values is served by helping Obama get elected I have no idea.


Vote for anyone during the run off, but once the game is narrowed down to the final two people, one conservative and one liberal, then it is time to make your mark, either you support conservatives or you don't. Voting for anyone but McCain was a vote for liberals. Again, this is about splintering when the liberals do not splinter, we are at a disadvantage when a large number of people like you refuse to stick together to at least limit some of the things like this healthcare bill.


I remember many people giving Chi a hard time for voting for Obama but you know what, Chi is very liberal so she voted the way she has always vocally believed, but you guys, you cry and cry about how you want the Nation to return to conservative values but when the game is on the line, you vote to support Obama, I just have to say that your more responsible for Obama getting elected than Chi was, so back at you...


Thanks RO for Obamacare.

 

You're a child, TJ. And if I talk to you in a repetitive, redundant, and pedantic manner; I am only imitating the standards you have set in this thread. You are the absolute epitome of the problems with the current "conservative" movement. In that, you have too much elasticity, too much give, too much compromise in your beliefs.

If splintering effected the outcome of the 2008 election, then it was the fact that the conservatives splintered from G.Dubya's good buddies in the House and Senate. I didn't cause the rift by voting a certain way.

You want to carry on voting for these neocons, RINOs, statists, and Marxists, that is your right and I fully expect you to exercise it.

I have no intention of sticking together with any one party. I choose based on principles, because the smallest minority in the world is MYSELF. I will not vote party lines just to get an old RINO (Did you know that RINO means "Republican In Name Only"?)in office and I don't latch on, march lock-step with the status quo.

And you have to have rocks in your head the size of Gibraltar if you believe that McCain had a chance against Obama's political machine. McCain ran a wimpish, almost apologetic campaign and for that he deserved to lose by the freakin' landslide that it was.

Ohhh... the poor little politician... up there in DC getting wallowing in power and reveling in a bloated sense of self worth. Ohh... how my heart aches for them! -------- NAH! You can't be serious! You want me to feel sorry for a politician? I would if they were able to take the "barrel of their gun" off of me and point it at themselves. (Chew on that analogy to the police power of government.)

In the meantime, if they don't want to be scrutinized by the likes of me? Then, they can go sell Che Guevara t-shirts along the interstate. If the son-of-a-bitches can't take the heat, then get the hell out of the kitchen. I never criticize the person handling my food, but I will forever dog those who handle my money.

You're joking? Have you not read anything that I have replied to you?

I will not bend my principles so that they align with some quasi-commie statist RINO. And I sure as hell wouldn't encourage someone else to vote that way, either.