Romney Lost. So What's Next?

I could see your "prediction" happening Joe just hope it doesn't really. I'd like to see two strong parties giving viable solutions.

As I stated in my OP the Democrats did the Republicans a favor by wreaking havoc on the Tea Party.
Richard Mourdock's abortion statement certainly didn't help him but his view on cooperating with Democrats wasn't very swift either.
It was basically "they have to see it my way".

Voters saw this and he lost.

Stu pointed out that they need to get away from religious zealots.
I agree.

NOW it's up to Republican voters to get the ball headed in the right direction for their party.
Voting for more centrist candidates would be a start IMHO. If you start seeing the uber right dropping like flies even the politicians might get the message.

Like him or not Vice President Biden really nailed the abortion issue in his debate with Paul Ryan.
Being Catholic he is not for abortion. However, he does not see it fit to force his religious views on our country.

I wonder how many Republicans realized what a brilliant statement that was coming from "Crazy Joe".

They need to. He separated Church and State.

 

I agree with you for the most part. However, the religious zealots own the Right at this point. They are unlikely to abandon who they are and moderate their positions. I just don't see that happening. A more likely outcome would be for the centrists on the Right to abandon them and reclaim sanity for the party. If that doesn't happen, they will continue to move further and further to the Right.

 

If your looking for a Republican Latino to run then there is
Susana Martinez

 

Let's not fool ourselves, winning elections is just about creating voting blocs & winning those blocs. In this election BO took that to the extreme.

 

This election boiled down to style over substance.

 

I think that it has been fairly well established that you guys did "fool yourselves".

So Obama took getting people to vote for him "to the extreme"???? I think Romney took getting people to not vote for him to the extreme. I heard one pundit describe his campaign as like watching someone going up stairs on roller skates. Romney got less votes than McCain got in 2008. Obama wasn't the problem.

 

Demographic dummy, demographics.

 

No, Romney got more votes than McCain got. Don't fool yourself; what's important (and what you've failed to point out) is that Obama got less votes than he did in 2008 (both Popular and Electoral). I know you're not very good at math, but numbers don't lie. This nation is much more divided now than it was in 2008.

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Not electoral college votes, actual votes. You know, the popular vote.

As of this writing, Obama had a 58,720,700 (50.1%) to 56,145,950 (48.4%) lead on Mitt Romney for the popular vote.

But this isn't he final total so Romney's eventual total could climb a bit. Who knows.

Anyway, two electoral landslides in a row can't really be ignored.

 

CNN knows. Where are you getting your data?

From CNN:
58,783,137 (Romney 2012) to 58,343,671 (McCain 2008). That's +Romney by 439,466 votes

62,088,847 (Obama 2012) to 66,882,230 (Obama 2008). That's -Obama by 4,793,383 votes.

Obviously, compared to 2008, more voters chose the Republican candidate in 2012 while less voters chose the Democratic candidate. As I said before, this nation is much more divided now than it was in 2008.

 

Kind of reminds me of Teddy's description of the economy - look how bad things were when Romney came in and look how much better things are getting today. Except in this case, things really are better.

 

It could also mean that there was an independent candidate that appealed to liberals more than obama, given the spread. Apologize for any typos, typing from my phone.

 

So you are trying to argue that 2012 was less of a landslide for Obama than 2008 was a landslide for Obama? Really? You can have that argument for all I care. One could easily counter, that Obama won every swing state except North Carolina which was also a squeaker. You can make any argument you need to make to make yourself feel better as a Republican, I really don't care.

By all accounts, your party got whipped and all that really matters is that the Left has a much more experienced and determined leader as head of his country and you should see the train coming at you. You can get onboard, get out of the way, or get runover. It's up to you.

 

If you'll look a little further down the line, you'll notice there are no tracks for the train to ride on. I think I'll just get out of the way and let it crash on its own.

Also, are you still sticking to your statement that Romney got less votes than McCain got in 2008?

 

Instead of being your usual total self, read the second to last sentence of my post. You have an obsession with having to be right about trivial points while completely ignoring the greater issues. Possible personality flaw? Oh yeah!

 

Instead of being so damned sure of your "facts", why don't you do a little research before your lips starts moving? Can't you figure out how to research facts on your dag-nabbed, new-fangled iPad? Just admit you were wrong and move on.

 

Oh I see, I must be the one to admit that "I" was wrong because you can't seem to read exactly what I posted and then pointed out to you a second time. Gotcha!

You aren't jealous of my iPad are you? You sound jealous.

 

Disingenuous. That's exactly what you are. You still won't admit you were wrong.

I'm not jealous in the least. If you earned the money to buy it, you should be able to have it and to keep it.

 

I just loved watching FOX's reaction, once it was clear Obama was winning. They kept updating viewers on how far ahead Romney was in the popular vote.

It went something like this: "And don't forget, Romney leads by 137,000."

Then, as the updates kept rolling in, the number kept getting smaller, but that just made them panic more lol:

"...leads by 125,000." Then: ...leads by 105,000!"

Then it was something like 85,000...65,000....45,000...

Poor fellas...starving for any small imaginary victory .

 

He could not lower himself to admit he ever did anything wrong. Beside that, he cannot seem to understand how math really works.