Right-wing Push Poll Accidentally Finds Obamacare Popular

Discussion in 'Politics' started by JoeNation, Aug 15, 2013.

  1. rlm's cents
    Hot

    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    But he just ignores facts when they are a problem.
     
  2. yakpoo
    Cynical

    yakpoo Well-Known Member


    The Democratic party is controlled and operated...by lawyers, for lawyers. Obamacare fills their troughs...and that's what it's really all about. They will promise whatever they can to whomever they can to keep the gruel flowing.

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    Of course, the rules don't apply to them...they're Lawyers!
     
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  3. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    One thing that frustrates me is when the conservatives on this site attempt to engage Gosnell as if it were an actual conversation. The man is a proven liar, hypocrite and throws propaganda around like Goebell.......

    Do not engage this Phuck.....destroy him with facts. You all notice when his nuts get kicked in he disapears then reappears with nothing more than Media Matters talking points. I have MM in my favorites and read it daily. It is nothing more than marching orders for liars.....

    His smokescreen posts about republicans this and republicans that are meant to distract. BENGAZI....... it is his
    Nightmare

    When you deal with liars, treat them as such. If Gosnell said 2+2=5..... you folks would debate it rather than crush him.

    Cmon gang.....your not working with anybody worth working with. Lose the kid gloves and get real.
     
  4. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    I'm tired of even dealing with him. All he does anymore is throw out insults. I completely dismiss him as I would any racist and hypocrite.

    He'll probably call me an "old drunk" (that's his new favorite term) or something just as insipid.
     
  5. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    Lol...the new term for Conservatives is "drunk"

    Gosnell has zero spine or truth or conviction or courage. I am a teabagger.....naughty word.....I am an alcoholic but sober.....another dirty word. But I have a nutsack and admit it.

    Gosnell gets all butthurt if you call him commie. Everything he preaches is straight out of Karl Marx or Alinski but he hides it

    What a sack of chit. Grow a pair Gosnell.......
     
  6. IQless1
    Blah

    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    Uh huh, sounds familiar:

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  7. JoeNation
    No Mood

    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    From your link. And the gist of the IRS tyranny is that they keep your refund if you happen to owe a penalty? Ouch! The sheer terror makes my butt pucker.

    A fraction of Americans will
    be subject to the penalty


    Under the Affordable Care Act, the Urban Institute estimates, just 6 percent of the population (roughly 18 million Americans) will even have to consider the question: “Should I purchase health insurance, or pay a tax?” That’s right: a whopping 94 percent of the population will have no reason to worry about paying a penalty. (See “You won’t pay a tax if:” at the top right of this page.)
    So … will the remaining 18 million all pay a penalty? Probably not. That’s because roughly 11 million of them will be low-income or middle-income Americans who are eligible for a government subsidy to help cover the cost of their premiums for coverage through the state health insurance exchanges. Chances are, most of them will take the government up on its offer to help purchase insurance with a wide range of essential benefits.
    That still leaves about 7 million Americans who won’t qualify for a premium subsidy. Today, many of them would dearly love to buy insurance – if only they could find an affordable policy. But many suffer from an illness that makes them uninsurable. The good news for them is that under the ACA, insurers will no longer be able to shun those who suffer from pre-existing conditions, or charge them sky-high premiums.
    These are the reasons why the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates that in the end, only about 1.4 percent of the population will actually pay a penalty.
    How stiff will your penalty be?

    You may be surprised to discover that for median-income families, the penalty that conservatives call a “tax on the middle class” is relatively modest. But it is a progressive tax: if a family earning $500,000 decides it doesn’t want to join the rest of us in the insurance pool, it could owe $12,500 to $13,000 in 2016.
    Today, the median net family income in the United States is roughly $66,000 to $68,000. (Half of U.S. families earn less; half earn more.) In 2016, the penalty for a middle-income family of four earning $60,000 would be about $2,085 – far less than the penalty a more affluent family would pay. (The penalty would be about $4,300 for a family with a household income of $200,000; about $6,800 for a $300,000 household; about $11,800 for a $500,000 household; etc.)
    - See more at: http://www.healthinsurance.org/learn/obamacare-penalty-calculator/#sthash.MWPUM86e.dpuf
     
  8. yakpoo
    Cynical

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    The top Income Tax rate in 1913 was 7% for those making over $500,000/year (that's equivalent to nearly $12,000,000 today). What are Income Tax rates now?

    Do you think the Obamacare penalty will stop at 2016 rates? If you do, you're nuttier than a Christmas fruitcake.

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  9. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    That's money out of your pocket, isn't it?
     
  10. yakpoo
    Cynical

    yakpoo Well-Known Member


    Do you call JoeNation "Gosnell" because you know that's his actual name or are you associating him to the abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell...metaphorically?

    Sure...I may be wasting my time engaging unrepentant Liberals on this site, but these posts are also viewable by anyone that searches on the topic. I try to present a cogent and respectful discussion of each topic...on the off-chance it could have a positive influence on others.
     

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