Republicans Make Sure There Are Guns, Democrats Make Sure There Are Heroes

Police: Student killed staffer at Nevada school

SCOTT SONNER, AP
28 minutes ago

A Sparks Middle School student, back to camera, cries with family members after being released from Agnes Risley Elementary School Monday Oct. 21, 2013, in Sparks Nev., after a shooting at Sparks Middle School. A student at the Sparks Middle School opened fire on campus, killing a staff member who was trying to protect other children, police said Monday. (AP Photo/Kevin Clifford) ​

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SPARKS, Nev. (AP) — A student at a Nevada middle school opened fire on campus just before the starting bell Monday, wounding two boys and killing a staff member who was trying to protect other children, Sparks police said Monday.
The lone suspected gunman was also dead, though it's unclear whether the student committed suicide. Authorities say no shots were fired by law enforcement. Names of the suspect and the school employee haven't yet been released.
"In my estimation, he is a hero ... We do know he was trying to intervene," Reno Deputy Police Chief Tom Robinson said about the fallen staff member.
Two other students were critically injured in the violence that erupted around 7:15 a.m., shortly before classes began Monday. One is out of surgery and the other is doing well, according to police.
A motive for the violence was unknown.
"As you can imagine, the best description is chaos," Robinson said. "It's too early to say whether he was targeting people or going on an indiscriminate shooting spree."
Police said between 150 and 200 officers, including some from as far as 60 miles away, responded to the shooting.
Students from the middle school and neighboring elementary school were evacuated to the nearby high school, and classes were canceled.
At the evacuation center, parents walked with their arms around their children, some of whom were in tears.
"We came flying down here to get our kids," said Mike Fiorica, whose nephew attends the school. "... It's really chaotic. You can imagine how parents are feeling. You don't know if your kid's OK."
The shooting happened on the school's campus and ended outside the school building itself, according to police.
"I was deeply saddened to learn of the horrific shooting at Sparks Middle School this morning," Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval said in a statement. Sandoval extended his thoughts and prayers to those affected.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, offered his condolences to students, parents and staff who experienced "a traumatic morning."
"No words of condolence could possibly ease the pain, but I hope it is some small comfort that Nevada mourns with them. I stand by to be of any assistance if there is anything that can be done," Reid said in a statement.
The school, located in a working class neighborhood, enrolls about 700 students in 7th and 8th grades.
The violence erupted nearly a year after a gunman horrified the nation by opening fire in Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., leaving 26 dead. The Dec. 14 shooting reignited debate over how best to protect the nation's schools and whether armed teachers should be part of that equation.
In a statement on the website of Sandy Hook Promise, a gun control advocacy group, Nicole Hockley, whose son Dylan was killed in the shooting said, "It's moments like this that demand that we unite as parents to find common sense solutions that keep our children—all children—safe, and prevent these tragedies from happening again and again."
Washoe County School District held a session in the spring in light of the Connecticut tragedy to educate parents on what safety measures the district takes.
Sparks, a city of roughly 90,000 that sprung out of the railway industry, lies just east of Reno.
Mayor Geno Martini spoke at a morning press conference to assure residents that the community was safe.
"It's a tragic day in the city of Sparks," he said. "This is just an isolated incident."
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Associated Press Writer Michelle Rindels contributed from Las Vegas.

 

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I agree...a hero. Also a former Marine who served in Afghanistan multiple times. Too bad he had to die. It does make me wonder what the outcome might have been if he had been armed. Maybe no difference, maybe there would have been.



"The kids loved him," his sister-in-law Chanda Landsberry said. She added his life could be summed up by his love of his family, his students and his country.

 

Leave it to Joe to crow over more tragic fallout from the Liberal agenda he promotes.

 

It sickens me that guns are so available that a 12-year old has no problem using his 12-year old judgement to gun down people in his middle school. Tell me, do people kill people or do guns kill people? Is a 12-year old a bad person? Is a 12-year old able to distinguish the right from wrong? The problem is and always has been the guns. Too damn many guns.

 

I agree, only he didn't have to die, he died because of the cowardice of the people that think their right to own a gun is more important than his right to serve his country and his community. The NRA put the gun in this 12-year old's hands almost as directly as if they had made it a happy meal toy. Simply put, if we now have 12-year olds with guns, when do we starting seeing elementary kids with guns? Access to deadly weapons isn't just for law abiding citizens. You can't arm them without arming everyone. Arming everyone is only going to lead to more access, more shootings, and more unnecessary deaths. I would gladly give up the 2nd Amendment if it would reduce the odds of random shooting like this and undoubtedly it would. Tell me again, is a 12-year old with a gun a "bad guy"?

 

So, Joe, let me ask you a simple question....

Do you advocate banning all private gun ownership?

 

ALL guns?

 

So, Joe, let me ask you a simple question....

Do you advocate banning all private gun ownership?

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Depends upon what he is doing with the gun I would say. If he is out hunting with his adult Brother...Nope. If he is at the shooting range with his Mom...Nope. If he is learning how to safely handle it and clean it with his Dad...Nope. If he steals it and takes it to school to kill people...Yep.

 

A 12-year old doesn't have the life experience to be a bad guy. He only has access to a deadly weapon and the consequences that access affords him.

 

Why are you avoiding the question? I'm not trying to zing you, I simply want to know your feelings on private gun ownership.

 

Joe, you promote the destruction of the social fabric of America and complain about the result. Cure the disease; not the symptom.

 

It's off topic and irrelevant to the conversation we're having, deal with it.

 

Again, don't tell me what I think much less try to define my motivations based on your own prejudices and biases.

The disease in this instance is the proliferation of guns and the gun culture in America and the symptom is 12-year old kids murdering teachers and then committing suicide.

 

Asking your opinion in the subject of gun ownership in a "guns" thread that you started is off topic?
Hmmm

 

Again, deal with it.

 

Dunno, seems cowardly to start posts that blast gun supporters (while celebrating tragedies), gun ownership...heck, the mere existence of guns...without having the gumption to say whether or not you want private gun ownership banned. Seems like a pretty simple question for someone so involved in the issue.

 

C'mon Joe...step out of the shadows and tell us your opinion. Should private gun be banned?

 

I suspect he has shot himself in the foot too much with his comment about burning Wisconsin and child abuse.