Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> wrote in news:a2d5p35pcuuu5faglaq965m4hu3aco2cmq@4ax.com: > Dan_Thomas_nospam@yahoo.com writes: > >> Because it involves airplanes. Real airplanes. > > And what is a "real" airplane? A jet fighter? A Cessna 152? A UAV? > A remote-controlled model? A glider? A 747? > >> Because a cloth or wooden airplane is still an airplane and >> still requires real skill to fly and, in most cases, a license. > > What is this obsession of private pilots with wind and motion and all > the visceral aspects of primitive flight? Listening to them, you'd > think there's nothing else to aviation. > >> Even an ultralight is real flying, where a computer simulator is not. > > You're entitled to your opinion. > >> Becase real flying involves real risk, that's why. > > Safe pilots minimize risk. A risky flight is a flight conducted by an > incompetent pilot. > > Here again, it seems that some pilots aren't happy unless they are in > danger. It's thrill-seeking behavior, which is a bad sign. > >> That management requires study, >> discipline, training, and compliance. This is something totally, >> completely, absolutely, utterly lacking in simulation. > > You can learn everything you need to know with the aid of a simulator. > The only reason this isn't done now is that there are still > regulatory obstacles to doing so. But that will change. > >> Death is not possible due to crashing a computer simulation. > > Fear of death is an extremely defective motivation for rigor and > discipline in piloting. If you cannot do things right unless you're > scared of dying, you aren't a good pilot. The challenge is to do > things right even when you feel complacent and safe, because that's > when bad things usually happen. > >> If it was, you wouldn't be making so much noise here. > > I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion. > >> If you want some idea of the risk, rig yourself a device that >> electrocutes you dead if you crash your simulator. Then sit down and >> fly it. > > I don't need the threat of bodily harm to compel me to do things > correctly and well. > >> Wrong again. Those glass panels are not simulation any more >> than the old gyro instruments were; they provide necessary >> information for flight in IMC. > > I wasn't talking about the panels; I was talking about the flight > controls. Modern airliners have no physical connections to the control > surfaces, and the "feel" of the controls is 100% simulated. > >> Ask any other real pilot and see if the answer varies much. > > I have. The answer varies considerably. Nope, they al think you are a fjukkwit. > >> Your insisting that simulation is the same as flying sounds like a >> serious probelm with delusion. > > Simulation is not the same as flying a real airplane. But then again, > flying airplane A is not the same as flying airplane B, either. You're an idiot. All airpanes work the same way. >
On Jan 19, 9:46?pm, Bertie the Bunyip <S...@rt.1> wrote: > Mxsmanic <mxsma...@gmail.com> wrote innews:a2d5p35pcuuu5faglaq965m4hu3aco2cmq@4ax.com: > > > > > > > Dan_Thomas_nos...@yahoo.com writes: > > >> Because it involves airplanes. Real airplanes. > > > And what is a "real" airplane? ?A jet fighter? ?A Cessna 152? ?A UAV? > > A remote-controlled model? ?A glider? ?A 747? > > >> Because a cloth or wooden airplane is still an airplane and > >> still requires real skill to fly and, in most cases, a license. > > > What is this obsession of private pilots with wind and motion and all > > the visceral aspects of primitive flight? ?Listening to them, you'd > > think there's nothing else to aviation. > > >> Even an ultralight is real flying, where a computer simulator is not. > > > You're entitled to your opinion. > > >> Becase real flying involves real risk, that's why. > > > Safe pilots minimize risk. ?A risky flight is a flight conducted by an > > incompetent pilot. > > > Here again, it seems that some pilots aren't happy unless they are in > > danger. It's thrill-seeking behavior, which is a bad sign. > > >> That management requires study, > >> discipline, training, and compliance. This is something totally, > >> completely, absolutely, utterly lacking in simulation. > > > You can learn everything you need to know with the aid of a simulator. > > ?The only reason this isn't done now is that there are still > > regulatory obstacles to doing so. ?But that will change. > > >> Death is not possible due to crashing a computer simulation. > > > Fear of death is an extremely defective motivation for rigor and > > discipline in piloting. ?If you cannot do things right unless you're > > scared of dying, you aren't a good pilot. ?The challenge is to do > > things right even when you feel complacent and safe, because that's > > when bad things usually happen. > > >> If it was, you wouldn't be making so much noise here. > > > I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion. > > >> If you want some idea of the risk, rig yourself a device that > >> electrocutes you dead if you crash your simulator. Then sit down and > >> fly it. > > > I don't need the threat of bodily harm to compel me to do things > > correctly and well. > > >> Wrong again. Those glass panels are not simulation any more > >> than the old gyro instruments were; they provide necessary > >> information for flight in IMC. > > > I wasn't talking about the panels; I was talking about the flight > > controls. Modern airliners have no physical connections to the control > > surfaces, and the "feel" of the controls is 100% simulated. > > >> Ask any other real pilot and see if the answer varies much. > > > I have. ?The answer varies considerably. > > Nope, they al think you are a fjukkwit. > > > > >> Your insisting that simulation is the same as flying sounds like a > >> serious probelm with delusion. > > > Simulation is not the same as flying a real airplane. ?But then again, > > flying airplane A is not the same as flying airplane B, either. > > You're an idiot. > > All airpanes work the same way. > > > > - Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - You are being too hard on the boy, Bertie. His ejaculation is real ain't it? That's all that matters to him. Wil
William Hung <hung.w@aircav.com> wrote in news:dd83c1a2-affc-42b3-be60-481f7295d5a7@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com: > On Jan 19, 9:46?pm, Bertie the Bunyip <S...@rt.1> wrote: >> Mxsmanic <mxsma...@gmail.com> wrote >> innews:a2d5p35pcuuu5faglaq965m4hu3aco2 > cmq@4ax.com: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dan_Thomas_nos...@yahoo.com writes: >> >> >> Because it involves airplanes. Real airplanes. >> >> > And what is a "real" airplane? ?A jet fighter? ?A Cessna 152? ?A U > AV? >> > A remote-controlled model? ?A glider? ?A 747? >> >> >> Because a cloth or wooden airplane is still an airplane and >> >> still requires real skill to fly and, in most cases, a license. >> >> > What is this obsession of private pilots with wind and motion and >> > all the visceral aspects of primitive flight? ?Listening to them, >> > you'd think there's nothing else to aviation. >> >> >> Even an ultralight is real flying, where a computer simulator is >> >> not. >> >> > You're entitled to your opinion. >> >> >> Becase real flying involves real risk, that's why. >> >> > Safe pilots minimize risk. ?A risky flight is a flight conducted by >> > an > >> > incompetent pilot. >> >> > Here again, it seems that some pilots aren't happy unless they are >> > in danger. It's thrill-seeking behavior, which is a bad sign. >> >> >> That management requires study, >> >> discipline, training, and compliance. This is something totally, >> >> completely, absolutely, utterly lacking in simulation. >> >> > You can learn everything you need to know with the aid of a >> > simulator. ?The only reason this isn't done now is that there are >> > still regulatory obstacles to doing so. ?But that will change. >> >> >> Death is not possible due to crashing a computer simulation. >> >> > Fear of death is an extremely defective motivation for rigor and >> > discipline in piloting. ?If you cannot do things right unless >> > you're scared of dying, you aren't a good pilot. ?The challenge is >> > to do things right even when you feel complacent and safe, because >> > that's when bad things usually happen. >> >> >> If it was, you wouldn't be making so much noise here. >> >> > I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion. >> >> >> If you want some idea of the risk, rig yourself a device that >> >> electrocutes you dead if you crash your simulator. Then sit down >> >> and fly it. >> >> > I don't need the threat of bodily harm to compel me to do things >> > correctly and well. >> >> >> Wrong again. Those glass panels are not simulation any more >> >> than the old gyro instruments were; they provide necessary >> >> information for flight in IMC. >> >> > I wasn't talking about the panels; I was talking about the flight >> > controls. Modern airliners have no physical connections to the >> > control surfaces, and the "feel" of the controls is 100% simulated. >> >> >> Ask any other real pilot and see if the answer varies much. >> >> > I have. ?The answer varies considerably. >> >> Nope, they al think you are a fjukkwit. >> >> >> >> >> Your insisting that simulation is the same as flying sounds like a >> >> serious probelm with delusion. >> >> > Simulation is not the same as flying a real airplane. ?But then >> > again, > >> > flying airplane A is not the same as flying airplane B, either. >> >> You're an idiot. >> >> All airpanes work the same way. >> >> >> >> - Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > You are being too hard on the boy, Bertie. His ejaculation is real > ain't it? Not something I really wish to know about, thenkew.. That's all that matters to him. > Thanks for sharing! Bertie
