Re: NBC gives ultimatum to "Journeyman"

GeekBoy wrote:

> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
> news:474BCB32.239460A6@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
> >
> >
> > Victor Velazquez wrote:
> >
> >> "Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.21adf200c838064998b218@news.individual.net...
> >> > Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:28:19 -0800 from Tim Bruening
> >> > <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>:
> >> >> Does NBC also want to duck fan questions of why Dan doesn't send
> >> >> detailed warnings of the 9/11 attacks to the FBI the next time he goes
> >> >> back to early September 2001?
> >> >
> >> > Because he wouldn't be believed?
> >>
> >> When Tim gets a hold of an idea, he's like a Rottweiler with a
> >> skateboard.
> >>
> >> And Tim, if you really want to save lives, why aren't you exhorting Livia
> >> to
> >> campaign against the dangers of smoking in 1948?
> >
> > Until recently, I didn't know that Livia was from 1948. I had assumed
> > that she
> > was a denizen of 2007!
> >
>
> How could she be from 2007 when at the start of the show she was assumed to
> be dead many years prior?

I thought that she had merely pretended to be dead after the plane crash, and
continued living forwards in time like everyone else until she got to the year
2007.

 

Tim Bruening <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:

>I thought that she had merely pretended to be dead after the plane crash, and
>continued living forwards in time like everyone else until she got to the year
>2007.

No. The show has established that she time travelled off of the plane,
avoiding the crash.

 

"Adam H. Kerman" wrote:

> Tim Bruening <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>
> >I thought that she had merely pretended to be dead after the plane crash, and
> >continued living forwards in time like everyone else until she got to the year
> >2007.
>
> No. The show has established that she time travelled off of the plane,
> avoiding the crash.

In which episode was it first established that Livia had time traveled off of the
plane to a point in time other then the year in which the plane crashed?

Until a few weeks ago, I had thought that Livia was a native if the 1990s who time
jumped off the plane, then later jumped back to 1998, but couldn't contact Dan
because Dan thought she was dead! I then thought that Livia would then have
established a new Dan-less life in 1998 and continued on until 2007, when she
started joining Dan on his time jumps.

 

Tim Bruening wrote:
>
> GeekBoy wrote:
>
>> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
>> news:474BCB32.239460A6@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...

>>> Until recently, I didn't know that Livia was from 1948. I had assumed
>>> that she was a denizen of 2007!
>>>
>> How could she be from 2007 when at the start of the show she was assumed to
>> be dead many years prior?
>
> I thought that she had merely pretended to be dead after the plane crash, and
> continued living forwards in time like everyone else until she got to the year
> 2007.

Apparently not. Yet another twist...

 

Tim Bruening <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" wrote:
>>Tim Bruening <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:

>>>I thought that she had merely pretended to be dead after the plane
>>>crash, and continued living forwards in time like everyone else until
>>>she got to the year 2007.

>>No. The show has established that she time travelled off of the plane,
>>avoiding the crash.

>In which episode was it first established that Livia had time traveled
>off of the plane to a point in time other then the year in which the
>plane crashed?

We've never seen a "journey" from position A to B without a change of
time, so I can't buy your theory. We know from the very first episode in
which Dan encounters her during his journey that she was saved due to a
time jump.

And we know her theory from the most recent episode that she tracked Dan
so he'd by so devasted by her "death" that he'd marry Katie and have
Zach, which contributes to my theory that the kid is fated to be a time
jumper too.

>Until a few weeks ago, I had thought that Livia was a native if the
>1990s who time jumped off the plane, then later jumped back to 1998, but
>couldn't contact Dan because Dan thought she was dead! I then thought
>that Livia would then have established a new Dan-less life in 1998 and
>continued on until 2007, when she started joining Dan on his time jumps.

We know that she was "stuck" in the future only during the relationship
with Dan, but she did comment that once she jumped off the plane, she
resumed jumping. At that point, she had achieved her mission.

In Livia's time line, we don't know how long it had been since she'd
seen Dan.

My original theory was that she was from Dan's future, not the past, so
it looks like we were both wrong.

I have no theory on why Dan refused to ask her any questions during the
show's early episodes, other than bad writing. It was so illogical that
it drove me nuts. The show got better after they started answering basic
questions.

 

and thus Adam H. Kerman inscribed ...
> Tim Bruening <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>> Until a few weeks ago, I had thought that Livia was a native if the
>> 1990s who time jumped off the plane, then later jumped back to 1998, but
>> couldn't contact Dan because Dan thought she was dead! I then thought
>> that Livia would then have established a new Dan-less life in 1998 and
>> continued on until 2007, when she started joining Dan on his time jumps.
> We know that she was "stuck" in the future only during the relationship
> with Dan, but she did comment that once she jumped off the plane, she
> resumed jumping. At that point, she had achieved her mission.

One thing we have to ask is, what was her mission. If she was supposed to have died on the plane crash, and it is known that she boarded the plane, why did her leap happen then, and not at some other point in place closer to Dan. Usually the jumps that Dan has done, he leaps pretty soon or close to the person he is supposed to help.
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, Jameson Stalanthas Yu -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>

 

suzee wrote:

> Tim Bruening wrote:
> >
> > GeekBoy wrote:
> >
> >> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
> >> news:474BCB32.239460A6@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
>
> >>> Until recently, I didn't know that Livia was from 1948. I had assumed
> >>> that she was a denizen of 2007!
> >>>
> >> How could she be from 2007 when at the start of the show she was assumed to
> >> be dead many years prior?
> >
> > I thought that she had merely pretended to be dead after the plane crash, and
> > continued living forwards in time like everyone else until she got to the year
> > 2007.
>
> Apparently not. Yet another twist...

Another idea I had was that Livia's home time might be in the 1980s or 1990s. I had
not expected her to be from clear back in 1948!