On Jul 2, 11:31?pm, dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote: > On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:55:01 GMT, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > >Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote: > >> dave hillstrom wrote: > > >> > ahem. ?as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid 80's, i > >> > was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor theory classes. > >> > so your point is incorrect. > > >> ? ?But did you learn the physics (quantum mechanics) of semiconductors? > > >Can't speak for him, but to get my BSEE I did. > > >There were so many physics courses it would have only taken a few more > >to get a dual degree. > > ditto > > but engineers eat better, generally. > > i wonder why that is, hmmmm? Because they are more directly tied to the profit channel. People are not paid according to their long-term impact on society. If that were the case, then teachers would be paid better than engineers. Is the fat content of your head tied to your wallet? PD
PD <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote: > Physicists usually arrive at a general principle or a theory that > covers a broad range of phenomena. It is in fact very unusual for a > physicist to have a theory that provides only one or two applications. > The OP appears to be looking for a direct chain from a physicist's > discovered principle to a clearly recognized application that stems > directly from it. Actually he appears to be pushing buttons to see if he can get knee jerk reactions. I'd say he's being pretty successfull. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.
On Jul 3, 9:55?am, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Physicists usually arrive at a general principle or a theory that > > covers a broad range of phenomena. It is in fact very unusual for a > > physicist to have a theory that provides only one or two applications. > > The OP appears to be looking for a direct chain from a physicist's > > discovered principle to a clearly recognized application that stems > > directly from it. > > Actually he appears to be pushing buttons to see if he can get knee jerk > reactions. > > I'd say he's being pretty successfull. > Oh, this is nothing more than a campus-style chest-thumping exercise, like an Aggies vs. Longhorns football game. I know that. I'm reminded about story about the different parts of the body arguing about who was more important: the brain, the heart, the stomach, the feet, and the asshole. In the end, the asshole clenched shut for a week and a half and won the argument. I suspect the OP is taking the position of the asshole. PD
> We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells > out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy > building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter. > And working on this: > > http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mp... > > Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks? > > Jade Wont be content until someone invents a prosthetic penis that bolts to the forehead.
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:13:56 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote: >dave hillstrom wrote: > >> >> yes. very good that engineers actually DO something with available >> information. in fact, its so good that engineers have pretty near >> completely obsoleted physicists in organizations worldwide. >> >> you see, we engineers actually INNOVATE and DESIGN things that are >> useful, as opposed to physicists who stand at blackboards or scrawling >> up trees worth of paper whilst pulling out their hair trying to figure >> out something, anything, even just one thing in their ~lifetime~, that >> ~might~ be even ~marginally~ useful. >> >> so, again, what have you physicists done for us lately, hmmm? > > o shown how the Sun works (via neutrinos) not useful to humanity > o determined the age of the observable universe to a few percent > from the CMB not useful to humanity > o demonstrated quantum computing (that will keep engineers busy) this will take another 30+ years to develop. not useful to humanity in any sort of short term way > o entanglement (that too will keep engineers busy) > o etc. this will take another 30+ years to develop. not useful to humanity in any sort of short term way > Actually the list is pretty dang long. Would you like scientific > references? keep shooting yourself in the foot, sam. what have you physicists done for humanity lately, sam? -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges of the new office. here here!!" -dave hillstrom
dave hillstrom wrote: > On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:13:56 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> > wrote: > >> dave hillstrom wrote: >> >>> yes. very good that engineers actually DO something with available >>> information. in fact, its so good that engineers have pretty near >>> completely obsoleted physicists in organizations worldwide. >>> >>> you see, we engineers actually INNOVATE and DESIGN things that are >>> useful, as opposed to physicists who stand at blackboards or scrawling >>> up trees worth of paper whilst pulling out their hair trying to figure >>> out something, anything, even just one thing in their ~lifetime~, that >>> ~might~ be even ~marginally~ useful. >>> >>> so, again, what have you physicists done for us lately, hmmm? >> o shown how the Sun works (via neutrinos) > > not useful to humanity > >> o determined the age of the observable universe to a few percent >> from the CMB > > not useful to humanity > >> o demonstrated quantum computing (that will keep engineers busy) > > this will take another 30+ years to develop. not useful to humanity > in any sort of short term way > >> o entanglement (that too will keep engineers busy) >> o etc. > > this will take another 30+ years to develop. not useful to humanity > in any sort of short term way > >> Actually the list is pretty dang long. Would you like scientific >> references? > > keep shooting yourself in the foot, sam. <laughing> > > what have you physicists done for humanity lately, sam? <laughing>
In article <JKudnQ24s-iBf_HVnZ2dnUVZ_vjinZ2d@comcast.com>, "Spaceman" <spaceman@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: > dave hillstrom wrote: > > On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:55:01 GMT, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > > >> Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote: > >>> dave hillstrom wrote: > >> > >>>> > >>>> ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid > >>>> 80's, i was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor > >>>> theory classes. so your point is incorrect. > >> > >>> But did you learn the physics (quantum mechanics) of > >>> semiconductors? > >> > >> Can't speak for him, but to get my BSEE I did. > >> > >> There were so many physics courses it would have only taken a few > >> more to get a dual degree. > > > > ditto > > > > but engineers eat better, generally. > > > > i wonder why that is, hmmmm? > > Because they would use straigt lines to direct the food to the mouth > instead of "curved lines" that are considered straight and instead > shove the food up thier nose. astronauts vs cavemen weapons to be decided who wins? arf meow arf - raggedy ann and andy for president and vice limp and spineless lint for brains is better yet and nice then rueing pair of shrub and dick the republican lice call me desdenova seven seven seven seven seven seven
In article <pan.2008.07.03.15.20.58.982091@netscape.net>, hwأf <snuhwolf@netscape.net> wrote: > On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:23:19 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal aided th' > terraists with the following claims : > > > In article <CiXak.1613$7%6.688@edtnps82>, > > The Original Demon Prince of Absurdity > > <absurd_number_of_nicks@hell.everyposehasits.corn> wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:03:01 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal did the > >> cha-cha, and screamed: > >> > Snuhwolf wrote: > >> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:06:34 -0400, Daedalus aided th' terraists with > >> >> the following claims : > >> >> > >> >> > I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and > >> >> > fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors > >> >> > and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never > >> >> > deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a > >> >> > straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a > >> >> > lightsaber in maybe a hundred years. > >> >> > > >> >> > Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually > >> >> > discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I > >> >> > don't > >> >> > own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really > >> >> > in > >> >> > the next solar system. > >> >> > > >> >> > We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells > >> >> > out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy > >> >> > building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark > >> >> > matter. > >> >> > And working on this: > >> >> > > >> >> > http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mps > >> >> > tor > >> >> > yvi > >> >> > ew > >> >> > > >> >> > Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks? > >> >> > > >> >> > Jade > >> >> > >> >> Ahhh...but what if they create teh TIME MACHINE? Then we can go back > >> >> and > >> >> kill hitler, make sure Gore gets inaugurated etc And totally fuck up > >> >> the time stream so that you finnaly get to meet yourself as your own > >> >> father. > >> >> That would totally rawk! > >> > > >> > its not so exciting in practice > >> > there are no absolute in causality only probabilities so what you think > >> > of > >> > a time paradox > >> > as the past coalesces becomes just a low probability event noncausally > >> > selected > >> > >> And then you wind up traipsing *across* timestreams, in a "Magical Mystery > >> Tour" sense...Really, you need a TARDIS. > > > > a time capsule is hopelessly overengineered > > moving all that interior all over the universe > > > > all you really need to do is map a door to different locations > > > > What a beautiful mind. > Time isnt linear? I'd like to slow it down some times and speed it up at > others. Can you suggest a product that will fulfill my needs? carry an anne rice novel (speeds time) and an ayn rand novel (slows time) arf meow arf - raggedy ann and andy for president and vice limp and spineless lint for brains is better yet and nice then rueing pair of shrub and dick the republican lice call me desdenova seven seven seven seven seven seven
mariposas rand mair fheal wrote: > In article <JKudnQ24s-iBf_HVnZ2dnUVZ_vjinZ2d@comcast.com>, > "Spaceman" <spaceman@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: > >> dave hillstrom wrote: >>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:55:01 GMT, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> >>>> Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote: >>>>> dave hillstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid >>>>>> 80's, i was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor >>>>>> theory classes. so your point is incorrect. >>>> >>>>> But did you learn the physics (quantum mechanics) of >>>>> semiconductors? >>>> >>>> Can't speak for him, but to get my BSEE I did. >>>> >>>> There were so many physics courses it would have only taken a few >>>> more to get a dual degree. >>> >>> ditto >>> >>> but engineers eat better, generally. >>> >>> i wonder why that is, hmmmm? >> >> Because they would use straigt lines to direct the food to the mouth >> instead of "curved lines" that are considered straight and instead >> shove the food up thier nose. > > astronauts vs cavemen > weapons to be decided > > who wins? The person that gets to pick the weapons usually wins if they think correctly about it at all. The cave man gave the astronaut a dead fly, And then he picked up his club for his weapon. -- James M Driscoll Jr Spaceman
dave hillstrom wrote: > On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:39:50 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> > wrote: > >>dave hillstrom wrote: >> >>>ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid 80's, i >>>was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor theory classes. >>>so your point is incorrect. >> >> But did you learn the physics (quantum mechanics) of semiconductors? > > yes. and what a pain it was. > > then, since im specialized in control and uC system design, as well as > manufacturing systems, i promptly forgot it. It's nice to know what to ask the fab for when you need to nudge the process to rebalance a device to meet an operating requirement (like the radar has to wake up at -55C and be able to dissipate full power after soaking all day over hot tarmac). > > two of my electrical engineer frat bros, however, were put through the > semiconductor post-grad hell at Cornell before going to serve their > time at semiconductor fabs. > Some peoples just loves the smell of arsine in the morning. -- nuts
dave hillstrom wrote: > On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:34:54 -0400, mixed nuts > <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote: > >>dave hillstrom wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:27:04 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>dave hillstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Daedalus wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker" >>>>>>><bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Daedalus wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>>>>>>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors >>>>>>>>>and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never >>>>>>>>>deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a >>>>>>>>>straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a >>>>>>>>>lightsaber in maybe a hundred years. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied >>>>>>>>scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you >>>>>>>>prosperous and safe. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Bob Kolker >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Jade >>>>>> >>>>>> I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics, >>>>>> weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones... >>>>>> you know, the stuff you use, Jade. >>>>> >>>>>ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current >>>>>automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers >>>>>and, of all things, architects and artists. >>>>> >>>> >>>>Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an >>>>E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size >>>>of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody >>>>got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as shit wasn't an artist. >>> >>>youre right. >>> >>>it was an electrical ENGINEER. not a physicist. >>> >>>thanks for playing. good luck next time. >>> >> >>The clever part is making a PWM commutator look like a slab of wonderbread? > > in a black, plasticish way... > Sounds like something I'd pass to the MechE chixor (she's a clever won) to design up wot with the physics and EE guys not being all that plugged in to materials and molding and environmental hardening in anything like a cost-effective way... Just sayin'. -- nuts
mariposas rand mair fheal wrote: > In article <g4gngg$auh$1@aioe.org>, mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> > wrote: > >>dave hillstrom wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 02:48:10 -0700 (PDT), RichD >>><r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Jul 1, "Robert J. Kolker" <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>>>>>>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors >>>>>>>>>and bullshit artists to me. >>>>> >>>>>>>>[snip crap] >>>>> >>>>>>>>Turn off your computer. It runs on physics. >>>>>>>>Idiot. >>>>> >>>>>>>Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very well >>>>>>>that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a physicist. >>>>> >>>>>> 1) James Clarke Maxwell >>>>>> 2) Nicola Tesla >>>>>> 3) James Bardeen >>>>>> 4) Idiot >>>> >>>>Ben Franklin >>>> >>>>>You forgot Michael Faraday who made the world's first electrical motor. >>>> >>>>And Aristotle - the first physicist, who still roolz today... > > aristotle was not physicist > he was a doofus > he declared what nature must be > without bother to find out if nature agree > A noble trait much admirired by doofus disciples in their gogues and demagogues. > >>>i dont believe that the basic machines and laws defined by aristotle >>>can be considered RECENT, which is what Jade asked for. not hundreds >>>and thousands of years old, but ~recent~ creation by physicists that >>>have made a real difference in the world. > > string theory > which enabled a next generation of star trek crises > also scientifical macram?. > >>Them old science gize were called natural philosophers. Later on, the > > natural philosophy only started the renaissance > before that youre dealing doofus philosophers > some guys that are still hanging around in musty university corners > writing books only read by each other and unfortunate freshman students This respected post-tenure avocation is not limited to the maltreatment of captive freshman and avoidance of useful work - after the 2nd or 3rd book one obtains monetarily rewarding appointments to various blue ribbon commissions and advisory boards with global scope guiding the teh despoliation of entire civilizations. -- nuts
> >> >>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and > >> >>>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors > >> >>>>and bullshit artists to me. > > >And Aristotle - the first physicist, who still roolz today... > > i dont believe that the basic machines and laws defined by aristotle > can be considered RECENT, which is what Jade asked for. ?not hundreds > and thousands of years old, but ~recent~ creation by physicists that > have made a real difference in the world. You have a point, recent scientists haven't had that much impact, Aristotle's ideas still predominate. -- Rich
In article <b0tp64pu0js5ctvkfbkji704j5nk1p2fke@4ax.com>, dave hillstrom says... > On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:13:56 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> > wrote: > > >dave hillstrom wrote: > > > >> > >> yes. very good that engineers actually DO something with available > >> information. in fact, its so good that engineers have pretty near > >> completely obsoleted physicists in organizations worldwide. > >> > >> you see, we engineers actually INNOVATE and DESIGN things that are > >> useful, as opposed to physicists who stand at blackboards or scrawling > >> up trees worth of paper whilst pulling out their hair trying to figure > >> out something, anything, even just one thing in their ~lifetime~, that > >> ~might~ be even ~marginally~ useful. > >> > >> so, again, what have you physicists done for us lately, hmmm? > > > > o shown how the Sun works (via neutrinos) > > not useful to humanity > > > o determined the age of the observable universe to a few percent > > from the CMB > > not useful to humanity > > > o demonstrated quantum computing (that will keep engineers busy) > > this will take another 30+ years to develop. not useful to humanity > in any sort of short term way > > > o entanglement (that too will keep engineers busy) > > o etc. > > this will take another 30+ years to develop. not useful to humanity > in any sort of short term way > > > Actually the list is pretty dang long. Would you like scientific > > references? > > keep shooting yourself in the foot, sam. > > what have you physicists done for humanity lately, sam? If'n I recall correctly, wasn't your buddy Njikkie from teh vjiking froup a physicist? -- "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds"
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:18:48 -0400, dave hillstrom wrote: > Yogi Mothball <capoeman@shaw.ca> wrote: >> The Original Demon Prince of Absurdity wrote: >>> mariposas rand mair fheal did the cha-cha, and screamed: >>>> Snuhwolf wrote: >>>>> Daedalus aided th' terraists with the following claims : >>>>> > I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>>> > fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty >>>>> > professors and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers >>>>> > that never deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to >>>>> > ever give you a straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold >>>>> > space or make a lightsaber in maybe a hundred years. >>>>> > >>>>> > Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually >>>>> > discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I >>>>> > don't own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is >>>>> > really in the next solar system. >>>>> > >>>>> > We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single >>>>> > cells out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are >>>>> > busy building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for >>>>> > dark matter. And working on this: >>>>> > >>>>> > http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html? >>iref=mpstoryvi >>>>> > ew >>>>> > >>>>> > Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks? >>>>> > >>>>> > Jade >>>>> >>>>> Ahhh...but what if they create teh TIME MACHINE? Then we can go back >>>>> and kill hitler, make sure Gore gets inaugurated etc And totally >>>>> fuck up the time stream so that you finnaly get to meet yourself as >>>>> your own father. >>>>> That would totally rawk! >>>> >>>> its not so exciting in practice >>>> there are no absolute in causality only probabilities so what you >>>> think of a time paradox >>>> as the past coalesces becomes just a low probability event >>>> noncausally selected >>> >>> And then you wind up traipsing *across* timestreams, in a "Magical >>> Mystery Tour" sense...Really, you need a TARDIS. >> >>You NEED the Mighty Boosh. >> >>Fucking plagiarists. >> >>Two ayem, BBC three. > > ahem. since when did shaw cable, a canadian company, carry BBC 3, an > english channel? > > when i lived up in ottawa in 2000 for 5 months, we didnt get no bbc > channels, honey. The year 2k was in the Pleistocene, baby. Get with the times. A few electromagnets hooked up to your eighteen foot Tesla coil to boost the signal and you'd be surprised to find what your old co-ax can bring in. Got any naked pictures of Puck? (No more naked pictures of you, I have enough of those.) -- ? 88 ,d 88 88 88 MM88MMM 88,dPPYba, ,adPPYba, 88 88P' "8a a8P_____88 88 88 88 8PP""""""" 88, 88 88 "8b, ,aa "Y888 88 88 `"Ybbd8"' 88 88 "" 88 ,d 88 88 88,dPYba,,adPYba, 88 ,adPPYb,d8 88,dPPYba, MM88MMM 8b d8 88P' "88" "8a 88 a8" `Y88 88P' "8a 88 `8b d8' 88 88 88 88 8b 88 88 88 88 `8b d8' 88 88 88 88 "8a, ,d88 88 88 88, `8b,d8' 88 88 88 88 `"YbbdP"Y8 88 88 "Y888 Y88' aa, ,88 d8' "Y8bbdP" d8' 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88 88,dPPYba, ,adPPYYba, 88 88 ,adPPYba, ,adPPYba, 88P' "8a "" `Y8 88 88 a8" "8a a8" "8a 88 d8 ,adPPPPP88 88 88 8b d8 8b d8 88b, ,a8" 88, ,88 88 88 "8a, ,a8" "8a, ,a8" 8Y"Ybbd8"' `"8bbdP"Y8 88 88 `"YbbdP"' `"YbbdP"' 8 d8 8888 d8 8d8b.d8b. 8d8b. 8d8b.d8b. 8 8ww. Yb dP 8 8P Y8P Y8 8P Y8 8P Y8P Y8 8 `8 `8. 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 Y88P dP Yb 8
The Original Demon Prince of Absurdity <absurd_number_of_nicks@hell.everyposehasits.corn> wrote: >On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:38:54 -0400, dave hillstrom did the cha-cha, and >screamed: >> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:32:02 -0700 (PDT), Eric Gisse wrote: >>>On Jul 1, 6:45?pm, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:32:27 -0700 (PDT), Eric Gisse wrote: >>>> >On Jul 1, 10:06?am, Daedalus wrote: >>>> >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>> >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty >>>> >> professors and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that >>>> >> never deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give >>>> >> you a straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make >>>> >> a lightsaber in maybe a hundred years. >>>> >>>> >> Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually >>>> >> discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I >>>> >> don't own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is >>>> >> really in the next solar system. >>>> >>>> >> We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells >>>> >> out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy >>>> >> building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark >>>> >> matter. And working on this: >>>> >>>> >>http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mp... >>>> >>>> >> Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks? >>>> >>>> >> Jade >>>> >>>> >Next time you need nuclear imaging, keep physicists in mind. >>>> >>>> and thats it, folks. ?the full list of physicists accomplishments >>>> during the last 30 years. >>> >>>What, that isn't good enough? >> >> not compared to the vast quantities of innovations made by engineers and >> inventors during the same time span. so, no, its not good enough. >> >> not to mention that its engineers and software geeks that have made the >> big steps in nuclear imaging since the first little tidbit from the >> physicists. > >Damnitall, WHERE'S THAT FTL/HYPERSPACE DRIVE?!? Or the wormhole-opener. alt.astronomy is --> that way. -- "Substantiation that you regard yourself as a God to be worhsipped [sic] should be your concern, Deco." -- David Tholen
"Art Deco" <erfc-1024@usa.net> wrote in message news:030720082137508116%erfc-1024@usa.net... > The Original Demon Prince of Absurdity > <absurd_number_of_nicks@hell.everyposehasits.corn> wrote: > >>On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:38:54 -0400, dave hillstrom did the cha-cha, and >>screamed: >>> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:32:02 -0700 (PDT), Eric Gisse wrote: >>>>On Jul 1, 6:45 pm, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:32:27 -0700 (PDT), Eric Gisse wrote: >>>>> >On Jul 1, 10:06 am, Daedalus wrote: >>>>> >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>>> >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty >>>>> >> professors and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers >>>>> >> that >>>>> >> never deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give >>>>> >> you a straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or >>>>> >> make >>>>> >> a lightsaber in maybe a hundred years. >>>>> >>>>> >> Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually >>>>> >> discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I >>>>> >> don't own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is >>>>> >> really in the next solar system. >>>>> >>>>> >> We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single >>>>> >> cells >>>>> >> out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy >>>>> >> building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark >>>>> >> matter. And working on this: >>>>> >>>>> >>http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mp... >>>>> >>>>> >> Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks? >>>>> >>>>> >> Jade >>>>> >>>>> >Next time you need nuclear imaging, keep physicists in mind. >>>>> >>>>> and thats it, folks. the full list of physicists accomplishments >>>>> during the last 30 years. >>>> >>>>What, that isn't good enough? >>> >>> not compared to the vast quantities of innovations made by engineers and >>> inventors during the same time span. so, no, its not good enough. >>> >>> not to mention that its engineers and software geeks that have made the >>> big steps in nuclear imaging since the first little tidbit from the >>> physicists. >> >>Damnitall, WHERE'S THAT FTL/HYPERSPACE DRIVE?!? Or the wormhole-opener. > > Bend over and I'll show you! > Fag Deco! HJ
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:18:48 -0400, dave hillstrom sat in thee Comfee Chaire, and didst finally confess, after taking Muche Tea: > On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:31:27 GMT, Yogi Mothball wrote: >>On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:01:54 +0000, The Original Demon Prince of >>Absurdity wrote: >>> On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:03:01 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal did the >>> cha-cha, and screamed: >>>> Snuhwolf wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:06:34 -0400, Daedalus aided th' terraists with >>>>> the following claims : >>>>> >>>>> > I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>>> > fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty >>>>> > professors and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers >>>>> > that never deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever >>>>> > give you a straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space >>>>> > or make a lightsaber in maybe a hundred years. >>>>> > >>>>> > Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually >>>>> > discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I >>>>> > don't own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is >>>>> > really in the next solar system. >>>>> > >>>>> > We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single >>>>> > cells out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are >>>>> > busy building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark >>>>> > matter. And working on this: >>>>> > >>>>> > http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html? >>iref=mpstoryvi >>>>> > ew >>>>> > >>>>> > Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks? >>>>> > >>>>> > Jade >>>>> >>>>> Ahhh...but what if they create teh TIME MACHINE? Then we can go back >>>>> and kill hitler, make sure Gore gets inaugurated etc And totally >>>>> fuck up the time stream so that you finnaly get to meet yourself as >>>>> your own father. >>>>> That would totally rawk! >>>> >>>> its not so exciting in practice >>>> there are no absolute in causality only probabilities so what you >>>> think of a time paradox >>>> as the past coalesces becomes just a low probability event noncausally >>>> selected >>> >>> And then you wind up traipsing *across* timestreams, in a "Magical >>> Mystery Tour" sense...Really, you need a TARDIS. >> >>You NEED the Mighty Boosh. >> >>Fucking plagiarists. >> >>Two ayem, BBC three. > > ahem. since when did shaw cable, a canadian company, carry BBC 3, an > english channel? > > when i lived up in ottawa in 2000 for 5 months, we didnt get no bbc > channels, honey. Clealy, sir hace not heard of bittorrents... -- ________________________________________________________________________ Hail Eris! Usenet Ruiner #5; Most Hated Usenetizen of All Time #13 Demon Prince of Absurdity; COOSN-029-06-71069; Official Chung Demon Top Asshole #3; Lits Slut #16; AUK Psycho & Felon #21 Gutter Chix0r #17; BowTie's Spuriously Accused Pedo Photographer #4 Parrot & Zombie #2; Anonymous Psycho Criminal #18 "Lola Stonewall Riot" is not part of my email addy. "If I were a Deep One...blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, bloody, bloody, blub..." "For those of you without hope, we have rooms with color TV, cable and air conditioning" Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle Trainer of PorchMonkey4Life http://www.screedbomb.info/porchie/ "Oftentimes people ask me, 'Why is it that you're so focused on helping the hungry and diseased in strange parts of the world?'" --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 18, 2008 Things We(TINW) Didn't Need To Know About Icebreaker, #5: "I expose myself all the time" Message-ID: <_S_9k.117$kw3.53@newsfe06.lga> "Hey Theophan, I need your help again. Will you please come assist me again? aggreen is after me again. He has been after me for a year and counting now. I want you to destroy his character for me. I can't do it." -- Olympiada: Not too proud to beg for help when it comes to character assassination, and Mistress of the Bleeding Obvious. MID: <45E22F00.5070103@yahoo.com> "I think we have taken care of the net.KKKopping in alt.gothic. Could all the kookologists trim alt.gothic from their headers and leave us alone now? It has gone on long enough. I can take care of myself in there from here on out. Thanks. I know how to fight off trolls now. Thank you for the education." -- Olympiada thinks she's had an education, and that means it's time for those nice kookologists to go away and leave her sandbox alone now, in MID: <45e330a8$0$16404$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Who booby-traps a dead end? That's just not right." -- Cordelia >> Are you the Peter J Ross that I've heard so much about? > > Probably. I'm the one who doesn't resort to forgery after losing an > argument. "You're the one with the extensive brain damage... okay I see. You're gonna be easily to own them." -- PorchMonkey4Life: Not aware of too many things. MID: <bf7xh.834$hH2.64@trnddc02> At last! See Joxer The Mity Monkey on camera! Watch him freak out!! "You're just mad that you got tard stomped again fagg0t. You throw something incredibly lame out there and I ramming it right back down your throat. And you wonder how I just did what I did to you. You wonder how I can make something so lame that you tossed out there so gosh darn amusing when I fling it back at ya. "Here's the secret: Unlike you, I am *not* retarded. You're tardness gets in your way every single time, fagboi. "Are you still crying over your keyboard, c0ckslurper? Is your mouth wide open and drool falling out. Is your chunky body convulsing as you think about how you were once again made a fool of? Are yellow boogie snots running out of your unnaturally large nose down your triple chins? "Look at what I reduced you too, tard.. I thoroughly enjoy owning and abusing you.. Thanks for being so tarded and so easy to beat." -- The PorchMonkey4Life has gone on to re-define red as yellow, black as white, and being run over by a truck as just a scratch. Message-ID: <kX3Nh.525$vI1.380@trnddc02> "And no, I did not have sex with my son. But if I did I certainly wouldn't tell you. Something so beautiful and precious should be kept private." -- Kathy L. Mosesian, or possibly not really her, confesses she may be a liar and committer of incest with her own son, in MID: <cfcd3f4660694e3afeaadaa2723e9ab1@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> The reporter asked Colin Powell (or George Bush), "What proof do you have that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?" He replied, "We kept the receipts." -- Bill Hicks Looney Maroon nominee for August 2006 Johnny D Wentzky foamed: "You never asked someone who goes into areas of the internet that are only for adults who has an underage id somehow or another if they are a cop posing as an underage person online? I guess lots of people just don't watch dateline or read stories much. Why don;t you go to pervertedjustice,com and see what they do. They are awash in their self-proclaimed glory after they lied to membners of the public. They are awash in their self-proclaimed glory after they posed as an underage person and agreed to do all sorts of sex acts wioth adult males, and they are adults posing as teenager themselves. They make themsleves into liars by falsely impersonating underage persons and by not fuilfilling the words they tell the victims online in their chats. Why don't you read it where they tell these victims of their deceit about how they have been with grown men and such? Why don't you read it where they say, "That would be cool." after someone makes an advance towards an adult who is posing as a teenager? And, where they agree to meet the person, etc. Lost control, didn't you? Is that why you feel as if you need to lie so much now? I see where lots of these false impersonation games are not sticking. They feel as if they can lie and then order the victims to get counseling in the gayblade, governmental, pro-choice tax leech counseling centers. They are doing nothing more than usury and fraud in many cases." -- Wentzky almost comes out of the closet as a pedo/ephebophile in MID: <H%%Eg.28916$Uq1.22411@bignews6.bellsouth.net> To Whom It May Concern: Michael J. Cranston attorney kook is a dogfucker
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:17:26 -0700, ???hw?f sat in thee Comfee Chaire, and didst finally confess, after taking Muche Tea: > On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:49:13 +0000, Demon Lord Henry Schmidt of Confusion > aided th' terraists with the following claims : >> On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:01:19 -0700, ???hw?f attempted to confuse >> the issue further by squeaking: >>> On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:32:08 +0000, The God of Odd Statements, Henry >>> Schmidt aided th' terraists with the following claims : >>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:22:57 -0400, mixed nuts did most oddly state: >>>>> Daedalus wrote: >>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty >>>>>> professors and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that >>>>>> never deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give >>>>>> you a straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make >>>>>> a lightsaber in maybe a hundred years. >>>>>> >>>>>> Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually >>>>>> discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I >>>>>> don't own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is >>>>>> really in the next solar system. >>>>>> >>>>>> We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells >>>>>> out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy >>>>>> building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark >>>>>> matter. And working on this: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mpstoryview >>>>>> >>>>>> Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks? >>>>> >>>>> Torll. >>>> >>>> You're just sticking up for those k00ky physicists. >>> >>> I bet he's working onna TIME MACHINE >>> >>> I want to go back and see Jebus! >> >> You'd just wind up having to become him. > > I'm not much of a carpenter... Ask Karl Glogauer about that. -- ________________________________________________________________________ Hail Eris! Usenet Ruiner #5; Most Hated Usenetizen of All Time #13 Demon Prince of Absurdity; COOSN-029-06-71069; Official Chung Demon Top Asshole #3; Lits Slut #16; AUK Psycho & Felon #21 Gutter Chix0r #17; BowTie's Spuriously Accused Pedo Photographer #4 Parrot & Zombie #2; Anonymous Psycho Criminal #18 "Lola Stonewall Riot" is not part of my email addy. "If I were a Deep One...blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, bloody, bloody, blub..." "For those of you without hope, we have rooms with color TV, cable and air conditioning" Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle Trainer of PorchMonkey4Life http://www.screedbomb.info/porchie/ "Oftentimes people ask me, 'Why is it that you're so focused on helping the hungry and diseased in strange parts of the world?'" --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 18, 2008 Things We(TINW) Didn't Need To Know About Icebreaker, #5: "I expose myself all the time" Message-ID: <_S_9k.117$kw3.53@newsfe06.lga> "Hey Theophan, I need your help again. Will you please come assist me again? aggreen is after me again. He has been after me for a year and counting now. I want you to destroy his character for me. I can't do it." -- Olympiada: Not too proud to beg for help when it comes to character assassination, and Mistress of the Bleeding Obvious. MID: <45E22F00.5070103@yahoo.com> "I think we have taken care of the net.KKKopping in alt.gothic. Could all the kookologists trim alt.gothic from their headers and leave us alone now? It has gone on long enough. I can take care of myself in there from here on out. Thanks. I know how to fight off trolls now. Thank you for the education." -- Olympiada thinks she's had an education, and that means it's time for those nice kookologists to go away and leave her sandbox alone now, in MID: <45e330a8$0$16404$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Who booby-traps a dead end? That's just not right." -- Cordelia >> Are you the Peter J Ross that I've heard so much about? > > Probably. I'm the one who doesn't resort to forgery after losing an > argument. "You're the one with the extensive brain damage... okay I see. You're gonna be easily to own them." -- PorchMonkey4Life: Not aware of too many things. MID: <bf7xh.834$hH2.64@trnddc02> At last! See Joxer The Mity Monkey on camera! Watch him freak out!! "You're just mad that you got tard stomped again fagg0t. You throw something incredibly lame out there and I ramming it right back down your throat. And you wonder how I just did what I did to you. You wonder how I can make something so lame that you tossed out there so gosh darn amusing when I fling it back at ya. "Here's the secret: Unlike you, I am *not* retarded. You're tardness gets in your way every single time, fagboi. "Are you still crying over your keyboard, c0ckslurper? Is your mouth wide open and drool falling out. Is your chunky body convulsing as you think about how you were once again made a fool of? Are yellow boogie snots running out of your unnaturally large nose down your triple chins? "Look at what I reduced you too, tard.. I thoroughly enjoy owning and abusing you.. Thanks for being so tarded and so easy to beat." -- The PorchMonkey4Life has gone on to re-define red as yellow, black as white, and being run over by a truck as just a scratch. Message-ID: <kX3Nh.525$vI1.380@trnddc02> "And no, I did not have sex with my son. But if I did I certainly wouldn't tell you. Something so beautiful and precious should be kept private." -- Kathy L. Mosesian, or possibly not really her, confesses she may be a liar and committer of incest with her own son, in MID: <cfcd3f4660694e3afeaadaa2723e9ab1@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> The reporter asked Colin Powell (or George Bush), "What proof do you have that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?" He replied, "We kept the receipts." -- Bill Hicks Looney Maroon nominee for August 2006 Johnny D Wentzky foamed: "You never asked someone who goes into areas of the internet that are only for adults who has an underage id somehow or another if they are a cop posing as an underage person online? I guess lots of people just don't watch dateline or read stories much. Why don;t you go to pervertedjustice,com and see what they do. They are awash in their self-proclaimed glory after they lied to membners of the public. They are awash in their self-proclaimed glory after they posed as an underage person and agreed to do all sorts of sex acts wioth adult males, and they are adults posing as teenager themselves. They make themsleves into liars by falsely impersonating underage persons and by not fuilfilling the words they tell the victims online in their chats. Why don't you read it where they tell these victims of their deceit about how they have been with grown men and such? Why don't you read it where they say, "That would be cool." after someone makes an advance towards an adult who is posing as a teenager? And, where they agree to meet the person, etc. Lost control, didn't you? Is that why you feel as if you need to lie so much now? I see where lots of these false impersonation games are not sticking. They feel as if they can lie and then order the victims to get counseling in the gayblade, governmental, pro-choice tax leech counseling centers. They are doing nothing more than usury and fraud in many cases." -- Wentzky almost comes out of the closet as a pedo/ephebophile in MID: <H%%Eg.28916$Uq1.22411@bignews6.bellsouth.net> To Whom It May Concern: Michael J. Cranston attorney kook is a dogfucker
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:37:50 -0600, Art Deco sat in thee Comfee Chaire, and didst finally confess, after taking Muche Tea: > The Original Demon Prince of Absurdity wrote: >>On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:38:54 -0400, dave hillstrom did the cha-cha, and >>screamed: >>> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:32:02 -0700 (PDT), Eric Gisse wrote: >>>>On Jul 1, 6:45?pm, dave hillstrom wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:32:27 -0700 (PDT), Eric Gisse wrote: >>>>> >On Jul 1, 10:06?am, Daedalus wrote: >>>>> >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and >>>>> >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty >>>>> >> professors and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers >>>>> >> that never deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to >>>>> >> ever give you a straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold >>>>> >> space or make a lightsaber in maybe a hundred years. >>>>> >>>>> >> Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually >>>>> >> discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I >>>>> >> don't own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is >>>>> >> really in the next solar system. >>>>> >>>>> >> We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single >>>>> >> cells out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are >>>>> >> busy building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for >>>>> >> dark matter. And working on this: >>>>> >>>>> >>http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mp... >>>>> >>>>> >> Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks? >>>>> >>>>> >> Jade >>>>> >>>>> >Next time you need nuclear imaging, keep physicists in mind. >>>>> >>>>> and thats it, folks. ?the full list of physicists accomplishments >>>>> during the last 30 years. >>>> >>>>What, that isn't good enough? >>> >>> not compared to the vast quantities of innovations made by engineers >>> and inventors during the same time span. so, no, its not good enough. >>> >>> not to mention that its engineers and software geeks that have made the >>> big steps in nuclear imaging since the first little tidbit from the >>> physicists. >> >>Damnitall, WHERE'S THAT FTL/HYPERSPACE DRIVE?!? Or the wormhole-opener. > > alt.astronomy is --> that way. No, I meant a working one. -- ________________________________________________________________________ Hail Eris! Usenet Ruiner #5; Most Hated Usenetizen of All Time #13 Demon Prince of Absurdity; COOSN-029-06-71069; Official Chung Demon Top Asshole #3; Lits Slut #16; AUK Psycho & Felon #21 Gutter Chix0r #17; BowTie's Spuriously Accused Pedo Photographer #4 Parrot & Zombie #2; Anonymous Psycho Criminal #18 "Lola Stonewall Riot" is not part of my email addy. "If I were a Deep One...blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, bloody, bloody, blub..." "For those of you without hope, we have rooms with color TV, cable and air conditioning" Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle Trainer of PorchMonkey4Life http://www.screedbomb.info/porchie/ "Oftentimes people ask me, 'Why is it that you're so focused on helping the hungry and diseased in strange parts of the world?'" --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 18, 2008 Things We(TINW) Didn't Need To Know About Icebreaker, #5: "I expose myself all the time" Message-ID: <_S_9k.117$kw3.53@newsfe06.lga> "Hey Theophan, I need your help again. Will you please come assist me again? aggreen is after me again. He has been after me for a year and counting now. I want you to destroy his character for me. I can't do it." -- Olympiada: Not too proud to beg for help when it comes to character assassination, and Mistress of the Bleeding Obvious. MID: <45E22F00.5070103@yahoo.com> "I think we have taken care of the net.KKKopping in alt.gothic. Could all the kookologists trim alt.gothic from their headers and leave us alone now? It has gone on long enough. I can take care of myself in there from here on out. Thanks. I know how to fight off trolls now. Thank you for the education." -- Olympiada thinks she's had an education, and that means it's time for those nice kookologists to go away and leave her sandbox alone now, in MID: <45e330a8$0$16404$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Who booby-traps a dead end? That's just not right." -- Cordelia >> Are you the Peter J Ross that I've heard so much about? > > Probably. I'm the one who doesn't resort to forgery after losing an > argument. "You're the one with the extensive brain damage... okay I see. You're gonna be easily to own them." -- PorchMonkey4Life: Not aware of too many things. MID: <bf7xh.834$hH2.64@trnddc02> At last! See Joxer The Mity Monkey on camera! Watch him freak out!! "You're just mad that you got tard stomped again fagg0t. You throw something incredibly lame out there and I ramming it right back down your throat. And you wonder how I just did what I did to you. You wonder how I can make something so lame that you tossed out there so gosh darn amusing when I fling it back at ya. "Here's the secret: Unlike you, I am *not* retarded. You're tardness gets in your way every single time, fagboi. "Are you still crying over your keyboard, c0ckslurper? Is your mouth wide open and drool falling out. Is your chunky body convulsing as you think about how you were once again made a fool of? Are yellow boogie snots running out of your unnaturally large nose down your triple chins? "Look at what I reduced you too, tard.. I thoroughly enjoy owning and abusing you.. Thanks for being so tarded and so easy to beat." -- The PorchMonkey4Life has gone on to re-define red as yellow, black as white, and being run over by a truck as just a scratch. Message-ID: <kX3Nh.525$vI1.380@trnddc02> "And no, I did not have sex with my son. But if I did I certainly wouldn't tell you. Something so beautiful and precious should be kept private." -- Kathy L. Mosesian, or possibly not really her, confesses she may be a liar and committer of incest with her own son, in MID: <cfcd3f4660694e3afeaadaa2723e9ab1@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> The reporter asked Colin Powell (or George Bush), "What proof do you have that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?" He replied, "We kept the receipts." -- Bill Hicks Looney Maroon nominee for August 2006 Johnny D Wentzky foamed: "You never asked someone who goes into areas of the internet that are only for adults who has an underage id somehow or another if they are a cop posing as an underage person online? I guess lots of people just don't watch dateline or read stories much. Why don;t you go to pervertedjustice,com and see what they do. They are awash in their self-proclaimed glory after they lied to membners of the public. They are awash in their self-proclaimed glory after they posed as an underage person and agreed to do all sorts of sex acts wioth adult males, and they are adults posing as teenager themselves. They make themsleves into liars by falsely impersonating underage persons and by not fuilfilling the words they tell the victims online in their chats. Why don't you read it where they tell these victims of their deceit about how they have been with grown men and such? Why don't you read it where they say, "That would be cool." after someone makes an advance towards an adult who is posing as a teenager? And, where they agree to meet the person, etc. Lost control, didn't you? Is that why you feel as if you need to lie so much now? I see where lots of these false impersonation games are not sticking. They feel as if they can lie and then order the victims to get counseling in the gayblade, governmental, pro-choice tax leech counseling centers. They are doing nothing more than usury and fraud in many cases." -- Wentzky almost comes out of the closet as a pedo/ephebophile in MID: <H%%Eg.28916$Uq1.22411@bignews6.bellsouth.net> To Whom It May Concern: Michael J. Cranston attorney kook is a dogfucker