Physicists don't deliver

Discussion in 'Chatter' started by Daedalus, Jul 1, 2008.

  1. On 1 juil, 22:30, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > On Jul 1, 1:06 pm, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > > I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > > fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > > and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > > deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > > straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > > lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.

    >
    > > Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually
    > > discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't
    > > own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in
    > > the next solar system.

    >
    > > We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells
    > > out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy
    > > building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter.
    > > And working on this:

    >
    > >http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mp....

    >
    > > Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?

    >
    > There is plenty going on that is helpful to mankind, and in the short
    > term. But at the time that the work is actually going on, the news
    > about physics tends to focus on the exotica. I have no idea why this
    > is.
    >
    > You may not be aware of this, but Doppler radar for the detection of
    > tornadoes and microbursts was a research project out of Los Alamos
    > National Laboratory and invented by physicists.
    >
    > Probably the best thing to do is to stay away from Discover Magazine.
    >
    > PD


    The Doppler effect was discovered way back in the 1800's.

    Applied physics is not the issue the OP raised.

    The day you distinguish between applied and fundamental
    you will be closer to understanding why the "focus on the
    exotica" leads nowhere.

    But I doubt it.

    Andr? Michaud
     
  2. ???hw?f

    ???hw?f Guest

    On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:06:34 -0400, Daedalus aided th' terraists with the
    following claims :

    >
    > I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >
    > Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually
    > discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't
    > own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in
    > the next solar system.
    >
    > We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells
    > out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy
    > building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter.
    > And working on this:
    >
    > http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
    >
    > Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?
    >
    > Jade


    Ahhh...but what if they create teh TIME MACHINE? Then we can go back and
    kill hitler, make sure Gore gets inaugurated etc :)
    And totally fuck up the time stream so that you finnaly get to meet
    yourself as your own father.
    That would totally rawk!

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  3. ???hw?f

    ???hw?f Guest

    On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:32:08 +0000, The God of Odd Statements, Henry
    Schmidt aided th' terraists with the following claims :

    > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:22:57 -0400, mixed nuts did most oddly state:
    >> Daedalus wrote:
    >>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never deliver
    >>> on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a straight
    >>> answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a lightsaber in
    >>> maybe a hundred years.
    >>>
    >>> Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually discover
    >>> something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't own a
    >>> Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in the
    >>> next solar system.
    >>>
    >>> We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells out
    >>> of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy building
    >>> giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter. And
    >>> working on this:
    >>>
    >>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
    >>>
    >>> Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?

    >>
    >> Torll.

    >
    > You're just sticking up for those k00ky physicists.


    I bet he's working onna TIME MACHINE :)

    I want to go back and see Jebus!

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  4. ???hw?f

    ???hw?f Guest

    On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:34:21 +0000, The God of Odd Statements, Henry
    Schmidt aided th' terraists with the following claims :

    > On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:26:02 +0000, Sam Wormley did most oddly state:
    >> ave Maelstrom's wrote:
    >>
    >>> --
    >>> dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    >>> "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly
    >>> meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar".
    >>> and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges
    >>> of the new office. here here!!"
    >>> -dave hillstrom

    >>
    >>
    >> Hey Dave--Let's talk Global Positioning System, specifically Cesium and
    >> Rubidium clocks, relativistic corrections and the quantum mechanics
    >> behind the circuitry. Then there is the determination of the figure of
    >> the earth, the spread spectrum correlation receivers and the
    >> correlation pseudo noise codes. Add to that the supersensitive
    >> electronic receivers used in the ground control segment and the
    >> semiconductor technology in the receiving CPUs.... It was the
    >> theorists and the physicists with insatiable curiosity that came up
    >> with the breakthroughs necessary for this global utility.
    >>
    >> Bet you don't even know what GPS is!

    >
    > Why are you replying to Daev's .sig?


    Because Daev sig is SEXY, duh.

    BTW, it was the concept of triangulation what made possible the theory
    that yu could looks at the timestamps of differents signals comming from
    the sAtTelitEs that they soem tiems use to beem thots into our heds when
    they are not using them to spy onus with our cellfonez.
    FYI
    HTH
    HAND

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  5. ???hw?f

    ???hw?f Guest

    On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:57:09 -0700, PD aided th' terraists with the
    following claims :

    > On Jul 1, 10:53pm, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
    > wrote:
    >> Uncle Al wrote:
    >> > Daedalus wrote:

    >>
    >> >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >> >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >> >> and bullshit artists to me.
    >> > [snip crap]

    >>
    >> > Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
    >> > Idiot.

    >>
    >> Not even wrong Al,
    >> It runs off electricity

    >
    > So does a dildo. So I suppose there is no principle difference between
    > a computer and a dildo.
    >


    BOTH CAN BE FUN IN THE RITE HANDS.

    FYI
    HAND

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  6. ???hw?f

    ???hw?f Guest

    On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:41:52 +0000, The God of Odd Statements, Henry
    Schmidt aided th' terraists with the following claims :

    > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:45:27 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal did most
    > oddly state:
    >> dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:24:27 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
    >>> wrote:
    >>> > dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:59:57 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
    >>> >> wrote:
    >>> >> > dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> >> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:09:53 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >>> >> >> wrote:
    >>> >> >> >Uncle Al wrote:
    >>> >> >> >> Daedalus wrote:
    >>> >> >> >>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al wrote:
    >>> >> >> >>>>Daedalus wrote:
    >>> >> >> >>>>
    >>> >> >> >>>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas
    >>> >> >> >>>>>and fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like
    >>> >> >> >>>>>nutty professors
    >>> >> >> >>>>>and bullshit artists to me.
    >>> >> >> >>>>
    >>> >> >> >>>>[snip crap]
    >>> >> >> >>>>
    >>> >> >> >>>>Turn off your computer. It runs on physics. Idiot.
    >>> >> >> >>>
    >>> >> >> >>>Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very
    >>> >> >> >>>well that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a
    >>> >> >> >>>physicist.
    >>> >> >> >>
    >>> >> >> >> 1) James Clarke Maxwell
    >>> >> >> >> 2) Nicola Tesla
    >>> >> >> >> 3) James Bardeen
    >>> >> >> >> 4) Idiot
    >>> >> >> >
    >>> >> >> >You forgot Michael Faraday who made the world's first electrical
    >>> >> >> >motor.
    >>> >> >>
    >>> >> >> and what a piss poor motor it was. only when ENGINEERS got a hold
    >>> >> >> of it did it become a useful, broadly applicaple technology.
    >>> >> >
    >>> >> >physics is applied math
    >>> >> >engineering is poorly applied math
    >>> >> >
    >>> >> >math rules
    >>> >>
    >>> >> engineering is math made into something USEFUL to the general, or
    >>> >> specific, public.
    >>> >
    >>> >thats what we let you think
    >>>
    >>> YOU are just trying, and vainly i might add, to twist my tail. hah!

    >>
    >> i dont troll and i dont respond to trolls

    >
    > Liar. Liar liar, pants on fire.


    I H8 maths...whenever I try and do it it just makes me feel more stupider.

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  7. Spaceman

    Spaceman Guest

    PD wrote:
    > On Jul 1, 10:53 pm, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
    > wrote:
    >> Uncle Al wrote:
    >>> Daedalus wrote:

    >>
    >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty
    >>>> professors and bullshit artists to me.
    >>> [snip crap]

    >>
    >>> Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
    >>> Idiot.

    >>
    >> Not even wrong Al,
    >> It runs off electricity

    >
    > So does a dildo. So I suppose there is no principle difference between
    > a computer and a dildo.


    Why don't you go do the experiments and report them to your boyfriend.
    I could care less about your principles.
    LOL

    --
    James M Driscoll Jr
    Spaceman
     
  8. On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:04:23 -0700, hwأf attempted to confuse the
    issue further by squeaking:
    > On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:34:21 +0000, The God of Odd Statements, Henry
    > Schmidt aided th' terraists with the following claims :
    >> On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:26:02 +0000, Sam Wormley did most oddly state:
    >>> ave Maelstrom's wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    >>>> "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    >>>> nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    >>>> and "bar".
    >>>> and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the
    >>>> privileges
    >>>> of the new office. here here!!"
    >>>> -dave hillstrom
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Hey Dave--Let's talk Global Positioning System, specifically Cesium
    >>> and Rubidium clocks, relativistic corrections and the quantum
    >>> mechanics behind the circuitry. Then there is the determination of
    >>> the figure of the earth, the spread spectrum correlation receivers
    >>> and the correlation pseudo noise codes. Add to that the
    >>> supersensitive electronic receivers used in the ground control
    >>> segment and the semiconductor technology in the receiving CPUs....
    >>> It was the theorists and the physicists with insatiable curiosity
    >>> that came up with the breakthroughs necessary for this global
    >>> utility.
    >>>
    >>> Bet you don't even know what GPS is!

    >>
    >> Why are you replying to Daev's .sig?

    >
    > Because Daev sig is SEXY, duh.
    >
    > BTW, it was the concept of triangulation what made possible the theory
    > that yu could looks at the timestamps of differents signals comming from
    > the sAtTelitEs that they soem tiems use to beem thots into our heds when
    > they are not using them to spy onus with our cellfonez. FYI
    > HTH
    > HAND


    So, math again.

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    >>
    >> the oversized check is in the mail.

    >
    > Alas, all I get for my trouble is a Monkey that's trained to hurl shit
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  9. On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:01:19 -0700, hwأf attempted to confuse the
    issue further by squeaking:
    > On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:32:08 +0000, The God of Odd Statements, Henry
    > Schmidt aided th' terraists with the following claims :
    >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:22:57 -0400, mixed nuts did most oddly state:
    >>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>>>
    >>>> Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually
    >>>> discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't
    >>>> own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in
    >>>> the next solar system.
    >>>>
    >>>> We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells
    >>>> out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy
    >>>> building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter.
    >>>> And working on this:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
    >>>>
    >>>> Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?
    >>>
    >>> Torll.

    >>
    >> You're just sticking up for those k00ky physicists.

    >
    > I bet he's working onna TIME MACHINE :)
    >
    > I want to go back and see Jebus!


    You'd just wind up having to become him.

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    I mourned:
    > The Mop Jockey did most oddly state:
    >> DUDE, YOU WIN TEH INTERNETS!!!
    >>
    >> the oversized check is in the mail.

    >
    > Alas, all I get for my trouble is a Monkey that's trained to hurl shit
    > under several of my nyms.


    "DevMcKinHole, you also get the pleasure of sucking off my doggy and
    cleaning out his butthole with your tongue." -- He's not so much a
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    own tendency to mess with lighter fluid while standing beside a hot
    stove. Message-ID: <77Uxh.1996$384.1135@trnddc05>

    Said I:
    > You, Monkey-man, are quite possibly the only usenetter in existence
    > who does not and cannot own Hatter.


    "[...] What's the matter fagboi, am I beating your as$ so badly that
    you're no seeking an alliance with the diaperboi?...YOu really don't
    know how dumb you are, do ya?" -- I guess I don't, Monkey.
    Message-ID: <gHVIh.1760$Bi2.1639@trnddc01>

    "Ok, but I am not stalking Teh Mop Jockey, I seem to be building a
    relationship with him. Remember, I am a Christian so the secular rules
    do not apply to me. I strive to be amoral, which I think applies to this
    situation. Keep this in mind, please. Since I am currently mentally ill
    and since I can not nominate, that is what I am doing at this time." --
    Olympiada: Teh amoral "Christian", in Message-ID:
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    Or watch it here:

    Then, if you manage to read/watch all that, try this:
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    And Molly Ivins had a few choice words to say about it, weeks before:
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    Here's Chris Floyd: Fatal Vision: The Deeper Evil Behind the Detainee
    Bill: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/100206A.shtml

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    "Plenty of people post under their real names and do not attempt to hide
    their contact info. You are scared of being 'outed' because you are a
    pathological abuser of usenet, and people rightly despise you for it.
    You're afraid of being reported to the authorities or, better, visited
    by a couple of guys with baseball bats. Other people don't have this
    obsessive fear. Ward Hardman himself has posted plenty of personal
    information - nothing that anyone else added was hidden in any way.
    You're so fucking scared you've built up this whole sick mythology about
    different categories of bad dudes who 'out' scum like you.

    "Meanwhile you are the ugliest pigfucker in the universe. You are the
    coward without ethics. You call me a 'newbie' - ha! what an asshole you
    are. Those who want to remain anonymous do so. There is absolutely no
    way you could identify me, not unless you had the sort of subpoena power
    that only gets turned on for big-time terrorists. That's because I chose
    to be anonymous. Some people don't. Only really stupid dicks like you
    choose the sort of semi-anonymity which leaves you in constant fear.

    "What a dickless wonder you are 'Snarky' you fat asshole."
    -- in MID: <1156587081.123977.43800@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>

    "I am the only one who has outer filthed Ward" -- James C. "Crackhead"
    Cracked voluntarily self-immolates, in MID:
    1159678991.838385.310840@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com

    "When I told Abbie Hoffman that he was the first one who made me laugh
    since Lenny Bruce died, Hoffman said, "Really? He was my god." The
    combination of satirical irreverence and sense of justice that Bruce and
    Hoffman shared was the real spirit behind the Yippies--a term I coined
    to describe a phenomenon that already existed: an organic coalition of
    stoned hippies and political activists who engaged in such actions as
    throwing money on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, then
    explaining to reporters the meaning of that symbolism. Folksinger Phil
    Ochs summed it up: "A demonstration should turn you on, not turn you
    off." So when journalists link the Yippies with misleading bedfellows,
    at best it's careless shorthand; at worst it's deliberate demonization.
    Osama bin Laden wanted an aircraft to crash into the Pentagon. Abbie
    Hoffman merely wanted to levitate it." -- Paul Krassner,
    http://tinyurl.com/ehu3v

    To Whom It May Concern: Michael J. Cranston attorney kook is a dogfucker
     
  10. Eric Gisse

    Eric Gisse Guest

    On Jul 1, 6:45?pm, dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
    > On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:32:27 -0700 (PDT), Eric Gisse
    >
    >
    >
    > <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >On Jul 1, 10:06?am, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
    > >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > >> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > >> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > >> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > >> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.

    >
    > >> Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually
    > >> discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't
    > >> own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in
    > >> the next solar system.

    >
    > >> We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells
    > >> out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy
    > >> building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter.
    > >> And working on this:

    >
    > >>http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mp....

    >
    > >> Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?

    >
    > >> Jade

    >
    > >Next time you need nuclear imaging, keep physicists in mind.

    >
    > and thats it, folks. ?the full list of physicists accomplishments
    > during the last 30 years.


    What, that isn't good enough?

    >
    > --
    > dave hillstrom ? ?mhm15x4 ? ?zrbj
    > "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    > nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    > and "bar". ?and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    > the privileges of the new office. ?here here!!"
    > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?-dave hillstrom
     
  11. In article <pan.2008.07.02.14.59.42.263904@netscape.net>,
    hwأf <snuhwolf@netscape.net> wrote:

    > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:06:34 -0400, Daedalus aided th' terraists with the
    > following claims :
    >
    > >
    > > I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > > fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > > and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > > deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > > straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > > lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    > >
    > > Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually
    > > discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't
    > > own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in
    > > the next solar system.
    > >
    > > We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells
    > > out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy
    > > building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter.
    > > And working on this:
    > >
    > > http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mpstoryvi
    > > ew
    > >
    > > Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?
    > >
    > > Jade

    >
    > Ahhh...but what if they create teh TIME MACHINE? Then we can go back and
    > kill hitler, make sure Gore gets inaugurated etc :)
    > And totally fuck up the time stream so that you finnaly get to meet
    > yourself as your own father.
    > That would totally rawk!


    its not so exciting in practice
    there are no absolute in causality only probabilities
    so what you think of a time paradox
    as the past coalesces becomes just a low probability event
    noncausally selected

    arf meow arf - raggedy ann and andy for president and vice
    limp and spineless lint for brains is better yet and nice
    then rueing pair of shrub and dick the republican lice
    call me desdenova seven seven seven seven seven seven
     
  12. In article <pan.2008.07.02.15.07.30.896931@netscape.net>,
    hwأf <snuhwolf@netscape.net> wrote:

    > On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:41:52 +0000, The God of Odd Statements, Henry
    > Schmidt aided th' terraists with the following claims :
    >
    > > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:45:27 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal did most
    > > oddly state:
    > >> dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:24:27 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
    > >>> wrote:
    > >>> > dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:59:57 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
    > >>> >> wrote:
    > >>> >> > dave hillstrom wrote:
    > >>> >> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:09:53 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    > >>> >> >> wrote:
    > >>> >> >> >Uncle Al wrote:
    > >>> >> >> >> Daedalus wrote:
    > >>> >> >> >>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al wrote:
    > >>> >> >> >>>>Daedalus wrote:
    > >>> >> >> >>>>
    > >>> >> >> >>>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas
    > >>> >> >> >>>>>and fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like
    > >>> >> >> >>>>>nutty professors
    > >>> >> >> >>>>>and bullshit artists to me.
    > >>> >> >> >>>>
    > >>> >> >> >>>>[snip crap]
    > >>> >> >> >>>>
    > >>> >> >> >>>>Turn off your computer. It runs on physics. Idiot.
    > >>> >> >> >>>
    > >>> >> >> >>>Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very
    > >>> >> >> >>>well that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a
    > >>> >> >> >>>physicist.
    > >>> >> >> >>
    > >>> >> >> >> 1) James Clarke Maxwell
    > >>> >> >> >> 2) Nicola Tesla
    > >>> >> >> >> 3) James Bardeen
    > >>> >> >> >> 4) Idiot
    > >>> >> >> >
    > >>> >> >> >You forgot Michael Faraday who made the world's first electrical
    > >>> >> >> >motor.
    > >>> >> >>
    > >>> >> >> and what a piss poor motor it was. only when ENGINEERS got a hold
    > >>> >> >> of it did it become a useful, broadly applicaple technology.
    > >>> >> >
    > >>> >> >physics is applied math
    > >>> >> >engineering is poorly applied math
    > >>> >> >
    > >>> >> >math rules
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >> engineering is math made into something USEFUL to the general, or
    > >>> >> specific, public.
    > >>> >
    > >>> >thats what we let you think
    > >>>
    > >>> YOU are just trying, and vainly i might add, to twist my tail. hah!
    > >>
    > >> i dont troll and i dont respond to trolls

    > >
    > > Liar. Liar liar, pants on fire.

    >
    > I H8 maths...whenever I try and do it it just makes me feel more stupider.


    well duh

    if you werent selected
    then thats the whole point

    arf meow arf - raggedy ann and andy for president and vice
    limp and spineless lint for brains is better yet and nice
    then rueing pair of shrub and dick the republican lice
    call me desdenova seven seven seven seven seven seven
     
  13. On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:34:54 -0400, mixed nuts
    <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote:

    >dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:27:04 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    >>>>wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>Daedalus wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >>>>>><bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Daedalus wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>>>>>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>>>>>>and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>>>>>>>deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>>>>>>>straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>>>>>>>lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >>>>>>>scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >>>>>>>prosperous and safe.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Bob Kolker
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Jade
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    >>>>> weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    >>>>> you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
    >>>>
    >>>>ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
    >>>>automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
    >>>>and, of all things, architects and artists.
    >>>>
    >>>>--
    >>>>dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    >>>>"i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    >>>>nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    >>>>and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    >>>>the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    >>>> -dave hillstrom
    >>>
    >>>Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an
    >>>E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size
    >>>of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody
    >>>got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as shit wasn't an artist.

    >>
    >> youre right.
    >>
    >> it was an electrical ENGINEER. not a physicist.
    >>
    >> thanks for playing. good luck next time.
    >>

    >The clever part is making a PWM commutator look like a slab of wonderbread?


    in a black, plasticish way...

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     
  14. On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:54:27 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    wrote:

    >dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:20:14 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:27:04 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    >>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>>>>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >>>>>>>> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>>>>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>>>>>>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>>>>>>>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>>>>>>>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>>>>>>>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>>>>>>>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >>>>>>>>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >>>>>>>>> prosperous and safe.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Bob Kolker
    >>>>>>>> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Jade
    >>>>>>> I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    >>>>>>> weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    >>>>>>> you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
    >>>>>> ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
    >>>>>> automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
    >>>>>> and, of all things, architects and artists.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> --
    >>>>>> dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    >>>>>> "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    >>>>>> nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    >>>>>> and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    >>>>>> the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    >>>>>> -dave hillstrom
    >>>>> Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an
    >>>>> E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size
    >>>>> of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody
    >>>>> got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as shit wasn't an artist.
    >>>> you[']re right.
    >>>>
    >>>> it was an electrical ENGINEER. not a physicist.
    >>> Head in the sand, Dave?

    >>
    >> hardly.
    >>
    >> those packages are often called "hocky pucks" by the engineers that
    >> use them every day in high power designs. and they are simply
    >> upscaled sizewise from the little solid state switches weve been
    >> producing for decades. a little change of doping here, a little metal
    >> deposition there, and voila! an expensive solid state switch with
    >> damned near zero ohms for high power designs like electric cars.
    >>
    >> oh, and, by the way, they hire engineers to run the semiconductor
    >> lines nowadays. and they hire engineers to design the next rev of
    >> semiconductor line.

    >
    > Yeah but those engineer don't have the foggiest idea what makes
    > those semiconductors work. So sad.


    ahem. as an electrical engineering student at RPI in the mid 80's, i
    was forced to take SEVERAL materials and semiconductor theory classes.
    so your point is incorrect.

    thanks for playing. please try again.

    >>
    >> no physicists needed.
    >>
    >> --
    >> dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    >> "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    >> nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    >> and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    >> the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    >> -dave hillstrom


    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     
  15. On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:04:56 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    wrote:

    >dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:58:49 -0700 (PDT), PD
    >> <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Jul 1, 9:54 pm, dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
    >>>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT), PD
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>>>> On Jul 1, 2:12 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
    >>>>>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>>>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >>>>>>> <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>>>>>>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>>>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>>>>>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>>>>>>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>>>>>>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>>>>>>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>>>>>>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >>>>>>>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >>>>>>>> prosperous and safe.
    >>>>>>>> Bob Kolker
    >>>>>>> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>>>>>> Jade
    >>>>>> I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    >>>>>> weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    >>>>>> you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
    >>>>> Not to mention the world wide web.
    >>>> engineers and software geeks. not physicists.
    >>> Might want to look up the history of that a little more. Hint: Geneva.

    >>
    >> i will. however...
    >>
    >> physicists made secure websites for trade? physicists made search
    >> engines? physicists made the OS's and the browsers that add utility
    >> to the average humans experience of the web? i think not. thats
    >> mathematicians, engineers, and software geeks.
    >>

    >
    > In a way I feel sorry for you hillstrom... Certainly there are innovators
    > among the non-scientist... and they serve a very useful function in
    > the leapfrogging of science and technology... but you really should
    > learn from who the real breakthroughs come from.


    you mean things like the first op-amp? (which i saw, and was about 6
    inches by 5 inches in size) things like that? it just so happens i
    once met the engineer/manager who was heading the team in the 60's.
    no physicists on the team.

    how about reynolds wrap? what about power tools? what about
    automated manufacturing equipment? engineers and inventors. no
    physicists.

    come on, now. youve said the real innovators for the last x number of
    years are physicists. tell me then, what have they innovated thats so
    great? instead of just trying to ~tell~ me im wrong, why not prove it
    with some facts and examples, hmmm? is it because you cant?

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     
  16. On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:09:03 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    wrote:

    >dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>> and bullshit artists to me.
    >>> [snip crap]
    >>>
    >>> Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
    >>> Idiot.

    >>
    >> no, it runs on engineering. physicists are not needed to design a
    >> computer. only engineers. its been so long since physicists added to
    >> the pc state of the art that its laughable.
    >> idiot.

    >
    > Try a mac


    try some facts.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     
  17. On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:26:02 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    wrote:

    >ave Maelstrom's wrote:
    >
    >> --
    >> dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    >> "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    >> nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    >> and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    >> the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    >> -dave hillstrom

    >
    >
    > Hey Dave--Let's talk Global Positioning System, specifically
    > Cesium and Rubidium clocks, relativistic corrections and the
    > quantum mechanics behind the circuitry. Then there is the
    > determination of the figure of the earth, the spread spectrum
    > correlation receivers and the correlation pseudo noise codes.
    > Add to that the supersensitive electronic receivers used in the
    > ground control segment and the semiconductor technology in the
    > receiving CPUs.... It was the theorists and the physicists with
    > insatiable curiosity that came up with the breakthroughs
    > necessary for this global utility.
    >
    > Bet you don't even know what GPS is!


    sorry honey, but ive got two handheld GPS units myself. and i know
    about the basic theory of positioning via differences in clock signals
    allowing triangulation.

    tell me, when were the physicists inventing this, hmmm? wasnt it
    quite some time ago? and isnt this discussion about "what have you
    done for me lately?"

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     
  18. Be advised:

    I stopped giving you chances about two years ago.

    Changing chairs and being clowny and "cute" and pseudo-informative

    IS NOT THE SAME THING AS "representation"

    What sort of VALUES do you people represent?

    You don't.

    I think you're extremely arrogant and contemptuous of your public when
    you make NO EFFORT WHATSOEVER to demonstrate consciousness of
    VALUES.

    It's like, shouldn't we spend our time wondering if you're HUMAN?

    If you can't REPRESENT, it's clear that you do not KNOW THE LANGUAGE.

    You can't undo the damage NOW.
     
  19. On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 23:19:49 -0700 (PDT), kronecker@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

    >On Jul 2, 6:57 am, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
    >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >>
    >> <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
    >> >Daedalus wrote:

    >>
    >> >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >> >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >> >> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >> >> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >> >> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >> >> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.

    >>
    >> >The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >> >scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >> >prosperous and safe.

    >>
    >> >Bob Kolker

    >>
    >> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>
    >> Jade

    >
    >There is the Transistor for starters. You wouldn't be sitting in front
    >of a PC now would you?


    and how long ago was that invented, hmmmm? i believe the lady asked
    you to tell her what have physicists done for us lately.

    physicists and reading comprehension apparently dont go well together.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     
  20. On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 23:28:27 -0700 (PDT), kronecker@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

    >On Jul 2, 1:27 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
    >> dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>
    >> > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com>
    >> > wrote:

    >>
    >> > >Daedalus wrote:
    >> > >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >> > >> <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:

    >>
    >> > >>> Daedalus wrote:

    >>
    >> > >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >> > >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >> > >>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >> > >>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >> > >>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >> > >>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >> > >>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >> > >>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >> > >>> prosperous and safe.

    >>
    >> > >>> Bob Kolker

    >>
    >> > >> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?

    >>
    >> > >> Jade

    >>
    >> > > I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    >> > > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    >> > > you know, the stuff you use, Jade.

    >>
    >> > ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
    >> > automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
    >> > and, of all things, architects and artists.

    >>
    >> > --
    >> > dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    >> > "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    >> > nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    >> > and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    >> > the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    >> > -dave hillstrom

    >>
    >> Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an
    >> E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size
    >> of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody
    >> got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as shit wasn't an artist.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
    >> (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

    >
    >It was an Elect Eng dumb ass!! They are the ones that develop
    >semiconductor devices or at least design the switching circuits.
    >
    >K.


    very true!

    ah, a sign of intelligence has emerged.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     

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