Physicists don't deliver

Discussion in 'Chatter' started by Daedalus, Jul 1, 2008.

  1. Sam Wormley

    Sam Wormley Guest

    dave hillstrom wrote:
    > On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:20:14 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:27:04 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>>>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >>>>>>> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>>>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>>>>>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>>>>>>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>>>>>>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>>>>>>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>>>>>>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >>>>>>>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >>>>>>>> prosperous and safe.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Bob Kolker
    >>>>>>> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Jade
    >>>>>> I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    >>>>>> weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    >>>>>> you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
    >>>>> ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
    >>>>> automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
    >>>>> and, of all things, architects and artists.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> --
    >>>>> dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    >>>>> "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    >>>>> nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    >>>>> and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    >>>>> the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    >>>>> -dave hillstrom
    >>>> Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an
    >>>> E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size
    >>>> of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody
    >>>> got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as shit wasn't an artist.
    >>> you[']re right.
    >>>
    >>> it was an electrical ENGINEER. not a physicist.

    >> Head in the sand, Dave?

    >
    > hardly.
    >
    > those packages are often called "hocky pucks" by the engineers that
    > use them every day in high power designs. and they are simply
    > upscaled sizewise from the little solid state switches weve been
    > producing for decades. a little change of doping here, a little metal
    > deposition there, and voila! an expensive solid state switch with
    > damned near zero ohms for high power designs like electric cars.
    >
    > oh, and, by the way, they hire engineers to run the semiconductor
    > lines nowadays. and they hire engineers to design the next rev of
    > semiconductor line.


    Yeah but those engineer don't have the foggiest idea what makes
    those semiconductors work. So sad.

    >
    > no physicists needed.
    >
    > --
    > dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    > "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    > nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    > and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    > the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    > -dave hillstrom
     
  2. PD

    PD Guest

    On Jul 1, 10:15?pm, dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
    > On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:58:49 -0700 (PDT), PD
    >
    >
    >
    > <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >On Jul 1, 9:54?pm, dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
    > >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT), PD

    >
    > >> <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >> >On Jul 1, 2:12?pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
    > >> >> Daedalus wrote:
    > >> >> > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    > >> >> > <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:

    >
    > >> >> >> Daedalus wrote:

    >
    > >> >> >>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > >> >> >>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > >> >> >>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > >> >> >>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > >> >> >>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > >> >> >>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    > >> >> >> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    > >> >> >> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    > >> >> >> prosperous and safe.

    >
    > >> >> >> Bob Kolker

    >
    > >> >> > Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?

    >
    > >> >> > Jade

    >
    > >> >> ? ?I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    > >> >> ? ?weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    > >> >> ? ?you know, the stuff you use, Jade.

    >
    > >> >Not to mention the world wide web.

    >
    > >> engineers and software geeks. ?not physicists.

    >
    > >Might want to look up the history of that a little more. Hint: Geneva.

    >
    > i will. ?however...
    >
    > physicists made secure websites for trade? ?physicists made search
    > engines? ?physicists made the OS's and the browsers that add utility
    > to the average humans experience of the web? ?i think not. ?thats
    > mathematicians, engineers, and software geeks.


    Now you are just propagandizing for the hell of it. The question was
    whether physicists have done anything of any value lately. They have,
    and several examples have been provided. Then you follow it up with
    complaints that value has been ADDED to the work of physicists by
    mathematicians, engineers, and software geeks. That is true, but it
    doesn't detract from the value of the original contribution by the
    physicists.

    The Wright brothers innovated powered, heavier-than-air flight. Is
    that contribution diminished because others came along after and added
    passenger seats and little tables that fold out from the arm rests?

    Perhaps you mean to goad by demanding a practical contribution that
    physicists have made lately that no one from any other profession has
    touched? Perhaps you just mean to goad. Perhaps it doesn't matter that
    you don't know what the f*k you're talking about when you're goading.

    PD

    >
    > physicists AND engineers might have made arpanet and various other
    > networks, but engineers and software geeks make what we call the web
    > The Web. ?not physicists. ?
    >
    > --
    > dave hillstrom ? ?mhm15x4 ? ?zrbj
    > "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    > nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    > and "bar". ?and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    > the privileges of the new office. ?here here!!"
    > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?-dave hillstrom
     
  3. PD

    PD Guest

    On Jul 1, 10:53?pm, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
    wrote:
    > Uncle Al wrote:
    > > Daedalus wrote:

    >
    > >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > >> and bullshit artists to me.

    > > [snip crap]

    >
    > > Turn off your computer. ?It runs on physics.
    > > Idiot.

    >
    > Not even wrong Al,
    > It runs off electricity


    So does a dildo. So I suppose there is no principle difference between
    a computer and a dildo.

    > physics only can "explain" how it runs.
    > Poor Uncle Al,
    > now he thinks physics is a physical cause for things too.
    > Does it really burn that much now Al?
    > :)
    >
    > --
    > James M Driscoll Jr
    > Spaceman
     
  4. Sam Wormley

    Sam Wormley Guest

    dave hillstrom wrote:
    > On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:58:49 -0700 (PDT), PD
    > <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >> On Jul 1, 9:54 pm, dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT), PD
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>>> On Jul 1, 2:12 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
    >>>>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >>>>>> <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>>>>>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>>>>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>>>>>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>>>>>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>>>>>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>>>>>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >>>>>>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >>>>>>> prosperous and safe.
    >>>>>>> Bob Kolker
    >>>>>> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>>>>> Jade
    >>>>> I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    >>>>> weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    >>>>> you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
    >>>> Not to mention the world wide web.
    >>> engineers and software geeks. not physicists.

    >> Might want to look up the history of that a little more. Hint: Geneva.

    >
    > i will. however...
    >
    > physicists made secure websites for trade? physicists made search
    > engines? physicists made the OS's and the browsers that add utility
    > to the average humans experience of the web? i think not. thats
    > mathematicians, engineers, and software geeks.
    >


    In a way I feel sorry for you hillstrom... Certainly there are innovators
    among the non-scientist... and they serve a very useful function in
    the leapfrogging of science and technology... but you really should
    learn from who the real breakthroughs come from.
     
  5. Sam Wormley

    Sam Wormley Guest

    dave hillstrom wrote:
    > On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:23:07 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:07:04 -0700 (PDT), Igor <thoovler@excite.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Jul 1, 2:57 pm, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
    >>>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >>>>>
    >>>>> <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>>>>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>>>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>>>>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>>>>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>>>>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>>>>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >>>>>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >>>>>> prosperous and safe.
    >>>>>> Bob Kolker
    >>>>> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Jade
    >>>> Where in the hell do you think you are, anyway? That's not exactly a
    >>>> chalkboard where you're scrawling your incoherent messages.
    >>> engineers, honey. not physicists. big difference.
    >>>
    >>> Get A Clue.
    >>>

    >> I've been both... totally different worlds... and yes, you
    >> should do some self education...

    >
    > seems like someone has reading comprehension issues: since i never
    > said anything about self education (which is a grand thing) but you
    > seem to think you have to agree with my nonexistant claim of needing
    > self education.
    >
    > maybe you need new glasses.
    >
    > or is it that you failed so miserably in engineering as to have to
    > fake it with a physics resume?


    <laughing>



    >
    > --
    > dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    > "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    > nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    > and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    > the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    > -dave hillstrom
     
  6. Sam Wormley

    Sam Wormley Guest

    dave hillstrom wrote:
    > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Daedalus wrote:
    >>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>> and bullshit artists to me.

    >> [snip crap]
    >>
    >> Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
    >> Idiot.

    >
    > no, it runs on engineering. physicists are not needed to design a
    > computer. only engineers. its been so long since physicists added to
    > the pc state of the art that its laughable.
    > idiot.


    Try a mac

    >
    > --
    > dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    > "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    > nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    > and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    > the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    > -dave hillstrom
     
  7. Sam Wormley

    Sam Wormley Guest

    ave Maelstrom's wrote:

    > --
    > dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    > "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    > nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    > and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    > the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    > -dave hillstrom



    Hey Dave--Let's talk Global Positioning System, specifically
    Cesium and Rubidium clocks, relativistic corrections and the
    quantum mechanics behind the circuitry. Then there is the
    determination of the figure of the earth, the spread spectrum
    correlation receivers and the correlation pseudo noise codes.
    Add to that the supersensitive electronic receivers used in the
    ground control segment and the semiconductor technology in the
    receiving CPUs.... It was the theorists and the physicists with
    insatiable curiosity that came up with the breakthroughs
    necessary for this global utility.

    Bet you don't even know what GPS is!
     
  8. On Jul 2, 6:57 am, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
    > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >
    > <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
    > >Daedalus wrote:

    >
    > >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > >> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > >> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > >> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > >> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.

    >
    > >The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    > >scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    > >prosperous and safe.

    >
    > >Bob Kolker

    >
    > Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >
    > Jade


    There is the Transistor for starters. You wouldn't be sitting in front
    of a PC now would you?

    K.
     
  9. On Jul 2, 1:27 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
    > dave hillstrom wrote:
    >
    > > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com>
    > > wrote:

    >
    > > >Daedalus wrote:
    > > >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    > > >> <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:

    >
    > > >>> Daedalus wrote:

    >
    > > >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > > >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > > >>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > > >>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > > >>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > > >>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    > > >>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    > > >>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    > > >>> prosperous and safe.

    >
    > > >>> Bob Kolker

    >
    > > >> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?

    >
    > > >> Jade

    >
    > > > I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    > > > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    > > > you know, the stuff you use, Jade.

    >
    > > ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
    > > automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
    > > and, of all things, architects and artists.

    >
    > > --
    > > dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    > > "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    > > nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    > > and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    > > the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    > > -dave hillstrom

    >
    > Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an
    > E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size
    > of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody
    > got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as shit wasn't an artist.
    >
    > --
    > Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
    > (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2


    It was an Elect Eng dumb ass!! They are the ones that develop
    semiconductor devices or at least design the switching circuits.

    K.
     
  10. spooge wrote:

    > "Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote in news:Mb-
    > dna7CV4SX4PfVnZ2dnUVZ_rvinZ2d@comcast.com:
    >
    > > Daedalus wrote:
    > >
    > >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > >> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > >> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > >> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > >> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.

    > >
    > > The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    > > scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    > > prosperous and safe.

    >
    > The lady is 100% correct.
    >
    > There hasn't been anything new in physics since E=MC2.
    >
    > Most schools are still able to use physics textbooks from the 50's, the
    > science is that moribund.
    >
    > You (by which I mean any and all physicists, their families, friends and
    > supporters) should be ashamed of all the billions of $ in research grants
    > that have been squandered on physics over the past 50 years while a cure
    > for the common cold still eludes the more relevant sciences.
    >


    Now I am an Engineer and am well aware of the limitations of
    Physicists. To a certain extend
    Engineering has overtaken Physics in many areas.

    However, credit where credit is due, it was the Physicists that
    developed the laser diode without which engineers could not design CD
    and DVD players.
    We work best together but I think in Physics it's got to a stage that
    it needs a genius brain to make progress after Einstein. In
    engineering we can evolve and improve gradually. In fact since the
    invention of the microprocessor Elect Engineers have only made thing
    smaller and faster.
    That is a great achievement of course but what is new? We still don't
    have quantum computers, plastic semiconductors,superconductors that
    really work at room temperature (say in PCs).
    The slowing down of light thiny was good a few years back and the
    cloaking technology that some are working on. If you want the best
    though - join the millitary, fuck knows what they do.
    When the theory of Time travel is eventually discovered it will be
    Engineers working with Physicists that make it work.

    K.

    K.
     
  11. On Jul 1, 1:06?pm, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
    > Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?


    Like you're doing with ... posting 76 USENET articles barely 48 hours
    into July, 1319, 719, 1153, 1605 and 859 articles each of the previous
    months? Real useful to humankind there. Damned USENET addict. What is
    up with you LOSERS?! 1000 articles a month?! How the HELL do you even
    find time for that? It takes at least 5-10 minutes to write up
    something new (unless you're spamming or repeating yourself ad
    infinitum) That's day times a day; 30 minutes between posts when
    counting the time you take to find something you want to reply to (the
    2/hour rate is a consistent average for each of you 1000+/month
    addicts) ... for a total 15 hours a day?! Every day!

    And watch. The other loser 1000+/month addicts, your androcleses/
    plutonium/spaceman/pentecho sock puppets are going to jump on this and
    everything else with only a 30 minute time lag or less. They're always
    on.

    A person posting 1500 articles a month is the last thing walking the
    face of this planet (more accurately: sitting on the face of this
    planet all day long doing nothing but posting articles) has any
    business calling anyone a k00k. The numbers alone put you in that
    category -- along with all others in this and other groups with the
    same numbers,

    This group is bullshit. It's time to remove it from the USENET, along
    with all the other addict-magnet unmoderated groups, because that's
    all you see on them these days: a glut of the same 1000+/month
    posters. 20 years and I haven't even got much past 10000 total, and
    here you are doing it all in less than a year.

    GET A LIFE! Maybe your present ISP (and all the others you manifest
    on) will agree and take the appropriate action; because, as rn used to
    say, this posting costs a lot of machines money.
     
  12. Y.Porat

    Y.Porat Guest

    On Jul 2, 8:04 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
    > dave hillstrom wrote:
    > > On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:58:49 -0700 (PDT), PD
    > > <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:

    >
    > >> On Jul 1, 9:54 pm, dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
    > >>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT), PD

    >
    > >>> <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >>>> On Jul 1, 2:12 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
    > >>>>> Daedalus wrote:
    > >>>>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    > >>>>>> <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
    > >>>>>>> Daedalus wrote:
    > >>>>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > >>>>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > >>>>>>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > >>>>>>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > >>>>>>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > >>>>>>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    > >>>>>>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    > >>>>>>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    > >>>>>>> prosperous and safe.
    > >>>>>>> Bob Kolker
    > >>>>>> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    > >>>>>> Jade
    > >>>>> I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    > >>>>> weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    > >>>>> you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
    > >>>> Not to mention the world wide web.
    > >>> engineers and software geeks. not physicists.
    > >> Might want to look up the history of that a little more. Hint: Geneva.

    >
    > > i will. however...

    >
    > > physicists made secure websites for trade? physicists made search
    > > engines? physicists made the OS's and the browsers that add utility
    > > to the average humans experience of the web? i think not. thats
    > > mathematicians, engineers, and software geeks.

    >
    > In a way I feel sorry for you hillstrom... Certainly there are innovators
    > among the non-scientist... and they serve a very useful function in
    > the leapfrogging of science and technology... but you really should
    > learn from who the real breakthroughs come from.


    ----------
    yes that is the question
    now
    no paper fiddler mathematician
    has contributed to technology
    except may be a few exceptions that i am not aware now
    the question is who did the real **big ,massive contributions!!*
    and it is surely not paper methematiciens

    scince advance is done only by trial and eror
    CONFRONTING REALITY OF NATURE
    toomany cases of adavnce were dont just by
    accidence
    of experimental scientists that were fiddling
    with experiments or experiments RESULTS !!
    not just paper fiddlings
    AND NO ARMECHAIR CROOKS WITH BIG MOUTHS

    ATB
    Y.Porat
    ---------------------
     
  13. <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote: on jul 1, 1:06?pm, daedalus
    <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote: on jul 1, 1:06?pm, daedalus
    <j...@newtko0ouks.biz>.
    > Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?


    New (unles barely to humankind something with you 1000 articles each of
    you takes barely to july, 1153, 1605 and 859 articles to (there. damned
    usenet addicts) ... for each of there. damned usenet addict. what? it
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  14. dont know who i am anymore :(

    Rock Brentwood, ye impotent epicurean rascal, something is rotten in the
    state of Denmark, ye squeaked:

    > My fears control me...can you help?
     
  15. dave hillstrom wrote:

    >
    > no, it runs on engineering. physicists are not needed to design a
    > computer. only engineers. its been so long since physicists added to
    > the pc state of the art that its laughable.
    > idiot.


    Transistor?

    And what was the basis for the engineering art? Look at a textbook that
    trains engineers to do work with solid state devices. Ninety percent
    quantum physics.

    Bob Kolker
     
  16. spooge wrote:

    > "Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote in news:Mb-
    > dna7CV4SX4PfVnZ2dnUVZ_rvinZ2d@comcast.com:
    >
    >
    >>Daedalus wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>>deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>>straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>>lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.

    >>
    >>The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >>scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >>prosperous and safe.

    >
    >
    > The lady is 100% correct.
    >
    > There hasn't been anything new in physics since E=MC2.


    Einstein-Bose Condensate?

    Q-bits?

    Spintronic devices?

    All of quantum electrodynamics?

    The Standard Model?

    You may have on valid point. String Theory, M-Theory and Brane-Theory
    has become a brain-drainer for physics. But there is a rumble from
    beneath. Lee Smollin (who worked in supersymmtry and quantum
    gravitation) has written a book -The Trouble With Physics- in which he
    points out that String Theory et all as not delivered the goods.

    So the day of liberation may not be far off.

    Bob Kolker
     
  17. RichD

    RichD Guest

    On Jul 1, "Robert J. Kolker" <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
    > >>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > >>>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > >>>>and bullshit artists to me.

    >
    > >>>[snip crap]

    >
    > >>>Turn off your computer. ?It runs on physics.
    > >>>Idiot.

    >
    > >>Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very well
    > >>that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a physicist.

    >
    > > ? ?1) James Clarke Maxwell
    > > ? ?2) Nicola Tesla
    > > ? ?3) James Bardeen
    > > ? ?4) Idiot


    Ben Franklin

    > You forgot Michael Faraday who made the world's first electrical motor.


    And Aristotle - the first physicist, who still roolz today...


    --
    Rich
     
  18. On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:26:02 +0000, Sam Wormley did most oddly state:
    > ave Maelstrom's wrote:
    >
    >> --
    >> dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    >> "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and nearly
    >> meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo" and "bar".
    >> and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy the privileges
    >> of the new office. here here!!"
    >> -dave hillstrom

    >
    >
    > Hey Dave--Let's talk Global Positioning System, specifically Cesium and
    > Rubidium clocks, relativistic corrections and the quantum mechanics
    > behind the circuitry. Then there is the determination of the figure of
    > the earth, the spread spectrum correlation receivers and the
    > correlation pseudo noise codes. Add to that the supersensitive
    > electronic receivers used in the ground control segment and the
    > semiconductor technology in the receiving CPUs.... It was the
    > theorists and the physicists with insatiable curiosity that came up
    > with the breakthroughs necessary for this global utility.
    >
    > Bet you don't even know what GPS is!


    Why are you replying to Daev's .sig?

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  19. On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:45:27 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal did most
    oddly state:
    > dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:24:27 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
    >> wrote:
    >> > dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:59:57 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
    >> >> wrote:
    >> >> > dave hillstrom wrote:
    >> >> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:09:53 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >> >> >> wrote:
    >> >> >> >Uncle Al wrote:
    >> >> >> >> Daedalus wrote:
    >> >> >> >>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al wrote:
    >> >> >> >>>>Daedalus wrote:
    >> >> >> >>>>
    >> >> >> >>>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas
    >> >> >> >>>>>and fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like
    >> >> >> >>>>>nutty professors
    >> >> >> >>>>>and bullshit artists to me.
    >> >> >> >>>>
    >> >> >> >>>>[snip crap]
    >> >> >> >>>>
    >> >> >> >>>>Turn off your computer. It runs on physics. Idiot.
    >> >> >> >>>
    >> >> >> >>>Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very
    >> >> >> >>>well that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a
    >> >> >> >>>physicist.
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> 1) James Clarke Maxwell
    >> >> >> >> 2) Nicola Tesla
    >> >> >> >> 3) James Bardeen
    >> >> >> >> 4) Idiot
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >You forgot Michael Faraday who made the world's first electrical
    >> >> >> >motor.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> and what a piss poor motor it was. only when ENGINEERS got a hold
    >> >> >> of it did it become a useful, broadly applicaple technology.
    >> >> >
    >> >> >physics is applied math
    >> >> >engineering is poorly applied math
    >> >> >
    >> >> >math rules
    >> >>
    >> >> engineering is math made into something USEFUL to the general, or
    >> >> specific, public.
    >> >
    >> >thats what we let you think

    >>
    >> YOU are just trying, and vainly i might add, to twist my tail. hah!

    >
    > i dont troll and i dont respond to trolls


    Liar. Liar liar, pants on fire.

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    targeting 'teh Mop Jockey'. You are and you are using me as a bait.
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    uncertainty of how the universe primly base works. Man made coordinate
    systems are fine without knowing from where or what is the base essence
    of what the space as deduced field is composed of, but not totally
    satisfactory. Anomalies keep space cropping up and scientists have to
    keep adjusting for these unexpected events. It's like a blind man that
    has memorized his physical surroundings to a point he feels very
    comfortable until that one new or unexpected event pops up and he's lost
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  20. On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:08:17 -0700, Aratzio did most oddly state:
    > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:39:26 -0700, in the land of
    > alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mariposas rand mair fheal
    > got double secret probation for writing:
    >> Igor <thoovler@excite.com> wrote:
    >>> On Jul 1, 2:57?pm, Daedalus wrote:
    >>> > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >>> > wrote:
    >>> > >Daedalus wrote:
    >>> >
    >>> > >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>> > >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty
    >>> > >> professors and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers
    >>> > >> that never deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to
    >>> > >> ever give you a straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold
    >>> > >> space or make a lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>> >
    >>> > >The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >>> > >scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >>> > >prosperous and safe.
    >>> >
    >>> > >Bob Kolker
    >>> >
    >>> > Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>> >
    >>> > Jade
    >>>
    >>> Where in the hell do you think you are, anyway? That's not exactly a
    >>> chalkboard where you're scrawling your incoherent messages.

    >>
    >>oh yeah thanks for inventing transistors and ultimately the internet
    >>
    >>its not abombs that will end humanity but indolence
    >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Menagerie_(TOS_episode)
    >>
    >>gimme my xbox

    >
    > playstation has the best HD DVD player.


    Good for me that I now have both.

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    Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle
    Trainer of the above k00k
    http://www.screedbomb.info/porchie/

    "Q: What do you call someone in the White House who is honest, caring,
    and well-read?
    A: A tourist." -- Anonymous

    "It would be offly hard for any of you to abuse me on usenet. Really. I
    have the advantage. I could easily turn alt.usenet.kooks into a cesspool
    of encoded posts. Bringing the noise ratio up so high as to make the
    group worthless. Anybody who can code could do this, why nobody has
    bothered before now is beyond me. The ultimate spamming engine..
    'BAWAHAHA'" -- Dustbin "Outer Filth" K00k's delusions of grandeur
    reached new heights, in Message-ID:
    <Xns98355D29419B9HHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121>
    "Immorality: The morality of those who are having a better time." -- H.
    L. Mencken

    "Consider that language a moment. 'Purposefully and materially
    supported hostilities against the United States' is in the eye of the
    beholder, and this administration has proven itself to be astonishingly
    impatient with criticism of any kind. The broad powers given to Bush by
    this legislation allow him to capture, indefinitely detain, and refuse a
    hearing to any American citizen who speaks out against Iraq or any other
    part of the so-called 'War on Terror.'

    "If you write a letter to the editor attacking Bush, you could be
    deemed as purposefully and materially supporting hostilities against the
    United States. If you organize or join a public demonstration against
    Iraq, or against the administration, the same designation could befall
    you. One dark-comedy aspect of the legislation is that senators or House
    members who publicly disagree with Bush, criticize him, or organize
    investigations into his dealings could be placed under the same
    designation. In effect, Congress just gave Bush the power to lock them
    up." -- William Rivers Pitt

    "It has become clear in recent months that a critical mass of the American
    people have seen through the lies of the Bush administration; with the
    president's polls at an historic low, growing resistance to the war Iraq,
    and the Democrats likely to take back the Congress in mid-term elections,
    the Bush administration is on the ropes. And so it is particularly
    worrying that President Bush has seen fit, at this juncture to, in effect,
    declare himself dictator." -- Frank Morales
    http://www.uruknet.biz/?p=m27769&hd=0&size=1&l=e&fark

    "Right you are correct. Someone hooked me. I do believe in building
    relationships. That is what Christians are required to do. I am amoral.
    I am sure you know what that means. So are Scorpios. I am being
    'protected' by the Formosa Rule because of my 'mental illness'. I am not
    targeting 'teh Mop Jockey'. You are and you are using me as a bait.
    Please stop. I have my own fish to reel in. Leave me alone. It is my hope
    that I will be able to catch a fish and reel it in for you. Once my
    retired bishop thought I was fishing for him and he took the bait, alas
    it wasn't me and that spelled the demise of our relationship. Have a
    little bit more faith in me. An Eastern Orthodox bishop thought I was
    fishing for him and willingly, proudly and defiantly took the bait on
    public record, and it wasn't even me. Give me a break." -- Atlanta
    Olympiada "Erica" Kane yammered in
    Message-ID: <ochc3.ag0.17.1@news.alt.net>

    "It does to a certain extant physically and theoretically
    it holds even into the quantum but there observational confirmation is
    limited or non existent. That's the problem and the major stumbling
    block to field unification. For Dr. Einstein held out that a physical
    based field theory should be sought out and not left to quantum
    uncertainty of how the universe primly base works. Man made coordinate
    systems are fine without knowing from where or what is the base essence
    of what the space as deduced field is composed of, but not totally
    satisfactory. Anomalies keep space cropping up and scientists have to
    keep adjusting for these unexpected events. It's like a blind man that
    has memorized his physical surroundings to a point he feels very
    comfortable until that one new or unexpected event pops up and he's lost
    and fumbling." -- nightbat, in one of his more lucid moments.
    Message-ID: <b27b0$45ed14a7$46e3a646$6618@COMTECK.COM>

    To Whom It May Concern: Att'y Michael James Cranston stalker kook, Esq.,
    is a dogfucker and Kook of the Month for March 2007
     

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