Physicists don't deliver

In article <68sl64pfd6dnse9s7oo9rf00j8jiu76kbg@4ax.com>,
dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:51:21 -0700, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:51:42 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
> >dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> got double secret probation for
> >writing:
> >
> >>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:33:09 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
> >><mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>In article <cjel64579liohjd1mp1qehc0pldsm7ubqt@4ax.com>,
> >>> dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >Daedalus wrote:
> >>>> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
> >>>> >> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>> Daedalus wrote:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
> >>>> >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty
> >>>> >>>> professors
> >>>> >>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
> >>>> >>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
> >>>> >>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
> >>>> >>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
> >>>> >>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
> >>>> >>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
> >>>> >>> prosperous and safe.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Bob Kolker
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Jade
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars,
> >>>> > electronics,
> >>>> > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell
> >>>> > phones...
> >>>> > you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
> >>>>
> >>>> ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
> >>>> automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
> >>>> and, of all things, architects and artists.
> >>>
> >>>doesnt faraday get credit for currents?
> >>>or franklin?
> >>
> >>faraday has the laws, man. but he didnt really do anything beyond
> >>that towards autos. that was engineers und designers what did that.
> >
> >ought to put his ass in a cage.
>
> and here i thought he had been.

that was captain christopher pike

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On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:58:49 -0700 (PDT), PD
<TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jul 1, 9:54?pm, dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT), PD
>>
>>
>>
>> <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Jul 1, 2:12?pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>> >> Daedalus wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
>> >> > <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> Daedalus wrote:
>>
>> >> >>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
>> >> >>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
>> >> >>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
>> >> >>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
>> >> >>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
>> >> >>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
>> >> >> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
>> >> >> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
>> >> >> prosperous and safe.
>>
>> >> >> Bob Kolker
>>
>> >> > Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
>>
>> >> > Jade
>>
>> >> ? ?I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
>> >> ? ?weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
>> >> ? ?you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
>>
>> >Not to mention the world wide web.
>>
>> engineers and software geeks. ?not physicists.
>
>Might want to look up the history of that a little more. Hint: Geneva.

i will. however...

physicists made secure websites for trade? physicists made search
engines? physicists made the OS's and the browsers that add utility
to the average humans experience of the web? i think not. thats
mathematicians, engineers, and software geeks.

physicists AND engineers might have made arpanet and various other
networks, but engineers and software geeks make what we call the web
The Web. not physicists.

--
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"i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
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-dave hillstrom

 

dave hillstrom wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:27:04 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
> wrote:
>
>> dave hillstrom wrote:
>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Daedalus wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
>>>>> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Daedalus wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
>>>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
>>>>>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
>>>>>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
>>>>>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
>>>>>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
>>>>>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
>>>>>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
>>>>>> prosperous and safe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Kolker
>>>>> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jade
>>>> I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
>>>> weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
>>>> you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
>>> ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
>>> automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
>>> and, of all things, architects and artists.
>>>
>>> --
>>> dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
>>> "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
>>> nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
>>> and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
>>> the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
>>> -dave hillstrom
>> Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an
>> E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size
>> of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody
>> got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as shit wasn't an artist.
>
> you[']re right.
>
> it was an electrical ENGINEER. not a physicist.

Head in the sand, Dave?

 

On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:59:57 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <bpql641ut0kgr8upk6vijs60tltb8a724i@4ax.com>,
> dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:09:53 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
>> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Uncle Al wrote:
>> >> Daedalus wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
>> >>>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Daedalus wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
>> >>>>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
>> >>>>>and bullshit artists to me.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>[snip crap]
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
>> >>>>Idiot.
>> >>>
>> >>>Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very well
>> >>>that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a physicist.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 1) James Clarke Maxwell
>> >> 2) Nicola Tesla
>> >> 3) James Bardeen
>> >> 4) Idiot
>> >>
>> >>
>> >You forgot Michael Faraday who made the world's first electrical motor.
>> >
>> >Bob Kolker
>>
>> and what a piss poor motor it was. only when ENGINEERS got a hold of
>> it did it become a useful, broadly applicaple technology.
>
>physics is applied math
>engineering is poorly applied math
>
>math rules

engineering is math made into something USEFUL to the general, or
specific, public.

if you want to spuriously call that poorly applied math, you go right
ahead. but its the engineers that directly made the billions of
dollars for the corporations, not the mathematicians.

maybe you should stick to weather speculation and tardises and trying
to figure out the stock exchange. youll prolly have a better track
record with those.

--
dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
"i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
-dave hillstrom

 

"Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote in news:Mb-
dna7CV4SX4PfVnZ2dnUVZ_rvinZ2d@comcast.com:

> Daedalus wrote:
>
>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
>
> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
> prosperous and safe.

The lady is 100% correct.

There hasn't been anything new in physics since E=MC2.

Most schools are still able to use physics textbooks from the 50's, the
science is that moribund.

You (by which I mean any and all physicists, their families, friends and
supporters) should be ashamed of all the billions of $ in research grants
that have been squandered on physics over the past 50 years while a cure
for the common cold still eludes the more relevant sciences.

--
Religion provides the means for the ignorant to declare with absolute
certainty that they know the unknowable.

 

dave hillstrom wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:07:04 -0700 (PDT), Igor <thoovler@excite.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 1, 2:57 pm, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
>>>
>>> <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Daedalus wrote:
>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
>>>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
>>>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
>>>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
>>>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
>>>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
>>>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
>>>> prosperous and safe.
>>>> Bob Kolker
>>> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
>>>
>>> Jade
>> Where in the hell do you think you are, anyway? That's not exactly a
>> chalkboard where you're scrawling your incoherent messages.
>
> engineers, honey. not physicists. big difference.
>
> Get A Clue.
>

I've been both... totally different worlds... and yes, you
should do some self education...

 

On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:49:34 -0700, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:50:06 -0400, in the land of
>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
>got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:27:04 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>dave hillstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Daedalus wrote:
>>>> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
>>>> >> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Daedalus wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
>>>> >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
>>>> >>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
>>>> >>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
>>>> >>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
>>>> >>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
>>>> >>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
>>>> >>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
>>>> >>> prosperous and safe.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Bob Kolker
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Jade
>>>> >
>>>> > I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
>>>> > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
>>>> > you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
>>>>
>>>> ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
>>>> automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
>>>> and, of all things, architects and artists.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
>>>> "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
>>>> nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
>>>> and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
>>>> the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
>>>> -dave hillstrom
>>>
>>>Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an
>>>E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size
>>>of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody
>>>got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as shit wasn't an artist.
>>
>>youre right.
>>
>>it was an electrical ENGINEER. not a physicist.
>>
>>thanks for playing. good luck next time.
>
>just a few years ago I could not speel injunear, now I are won.

duh. thats cuz you are responsible for actual product instead of
taking acid and staring at the stars, babbling into a little recorder
so that tomorrow you might see if you actually thought of anything
that could land a grant. like physicists do.

--
dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
"i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
-dave hillstrom

 

In article <0nsl641j8q7cleqslch4g1jj45mfe69d77@4ax.com>,
dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:59:57 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
> <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <bpql641ut0kgr8upk6vijs60tltb8a724i@4ax.com>,
> > dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:09:53 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
> >> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Uncle Al wrote:
> >> >> Daedalus wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
> >> >>>wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Daedalus wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
> >> >>>>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
> >> >>>>>and bullshit artists to me.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>[snip crap]
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
> >> >>>>Idiot.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very well
> >> >>>that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a physicist.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) James Clarke Maxwell
> >> >> 2) Nicola Tesla
> >> >> 3) James Bardeen
> >> >> 4) Idiot
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >You forgot Michael Faraday who made the world's first electrical motor.
> >> >
> >> >Bob Kolker
> >>
> >> and what a piss poor motor it was. only when ENGINEERS got a hold of
> >> it did it become a useful, broadly applicaple technology.
> >
> >physics is applied math
> >engineering is poorly applied math
> >
> >math rules
>
> engineering is math made into something USEFUL to the general, or
> specific, public.

thats what we let you think

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limp and spineless lint for brains is better yet and nice
then rueing pair of shrub and dick the republican lice
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On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:13:27 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <68sl64pfd6dnse9s7oo9rf00j8jiu76kbg@4ax.com>,
> dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:51:21 -0700, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:51:42 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
>> >dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> got double secret probation for
>> >writing:
>> >
>> >>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:33:09 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
>> >><mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>In article <cjel64579liohjd1mp1qehc0pldsm7ubqt@4ax.com>,
>> >>> dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >Daedalus wrote:
>> >>>> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
>> >>>> >> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>> Daedalus wrote:
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
>> >>>> >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty
>> >>>> >>>> professors
>> >>>> >>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
>> >>>> >>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
>> >>>> >>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
>> >>>> >>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
>> >>>> >>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
>> >>>> >>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
>> >>>> >>> prosperous and safe.
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Bob Kolker
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Jade
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars,
>> >>>> > electronics,
>> >>>> > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell
>> >>>> > phones...
>> >>>> > you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
>> >>>> automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
>> >>>> and, of all things, architects and artists.
>> >>>
>> >>>doesnt faraday get credit for currents?
>> >>>or franklin?
>> >>
>> >>faraday has the laws, man. but he didnt really do anything beyond
>> >>that towards autos. that was engineers und designers what did that.
>> >
>> >ought to put his ass in a cage.
>>
>> and here i thought he had been.
>
>that was captain christopher pike

and here we have another example of just how grounded physicists are.

mheh.

--
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"i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
-dave hillstrom

 

On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:22:57 -0400, mixed nuts did most oddly state:
> Daedalus wrote:
>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never deliver
>> on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a straight
>> answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a lightsaber in
>> maybe a hundred years.
>>
>> Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually discover
>> something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't own a
>> Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in the
>> next solar system.
>>
>> We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells out
>> of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy building
>> giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter. And
>> working on this:
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
>>
>> Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?
>
> Torll.

You're just sticking up for those k00ky physicists.

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http://www.uruknet.biz/?p=m27769&hd=0&size=1&l=e&fark

"Right you are correct. Someone hooked me. I do believe in building
relationships. That is what Christians are required to do. I am amoral.
I am sure you know what that means. So are Scorpios. I am being
'protected' by the Formosa Rule because of my 'mental illness'. I am not
targeting 'teh Mop Jockey'. You are and you are using me as a bait.
Please stop. I have my own fish to reel in. Leave me alone. It is my hope
that I will be able to catch a fish and reel it in for you. Once my
retired bishop thought I was fishing for him and he took the bait, alas
it wasn't me and that spelled the demise of our relationship. Have a
little bit more faith in me. An Eastern Orthodox bishop thought I was
fishing for him and willingly, proudly and defiantly took the bait on
public record, and it wasn't even me. Give me a break." -- Atlanta
Olympiada "Erica" Kane yammered in
Message-ID: <ochc3.ag0.17.1@news.alt.net>

"It does to a certain extant physically and theoretically
it holds even into the quantum but there observational confirmation is
limited or non existent. That's the problem and the major stumbling
block to field unification. For Dr. Einstein held out that a physical
based field theory should be sought out and not left to quantum
uncertainty of how the universe primly base works. Man made coordinate
systems are fine without knowing from where or what is the base essence
of what the space as deduced field is composed of, but not totally
satisfactory. Anomalies keep space cropping up and scientists have to
keep adjusting for these unexpected events. It's like a blind man that
has memorized his physical surroundings to a point he feels very
comfortable until that one new or unexpected event pops up and he's lost
and fumbling." -- nightbat, in one of his more lucid moments.
Message-ID: <b27b0$45ed14a7$46e3a646$6618@COMTECK.COM>

To Whom It May Concern: Att'y Michael James Cranston stalker kook, Esq.,
is a dogfucker and Kook of the Month for March 2007

 

On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:20:14 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
wrote:

>dave hillstrom wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:27:04 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> dave hillstrom wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Daedalus wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
>>>>>> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daedalus wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
>>>>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
>>>>>>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
>>>>>>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
>>>>>>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
>>>>>>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
>>>>>>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
>>>>>>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
>>>>>>> prosperous and safe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob Kolker
>>>>>> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jade
>>>>> I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
>>>>> weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
>>>>> you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
>>>> ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
>>>> automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
>>>> and, of all things, architects and artists.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
>>>> "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
>>>> nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
>>>> and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
>>>> the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
>>>> -dave hillstrom
>>> Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an
>>> E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size
>>> of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody
>>> got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as shit wasn't an artist.
>>
>> you[']re right.
>>
>> it was an electrical ENGINEER. not a physicist.
>
> Head in the sand, Dave?

hardly.

those packages are often called "hocky pucks" by the engineers that
use them every day in high power designs. and they are simply
upscaled sizewise from the little solid state switches weve been
producing for decades. a little change of doping here, a little metal
deposition there, and voila! an expensive solid state switch with
damned near zero ohms for high power designs like electric cars.

oh, and, by the way, they hire engineers to run the semiconductor
lines nowadays. and they hire engineers to design the next rev of
semiconductor line.

no physicists needed.

--
dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
"i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
-dave hillstrom

 

On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:23:07 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
wrote:

>dave hillstrom wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:07:04 -0700 (PDT), Igor <thoovler@excite.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 1, 2:57 pm, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
>>>>
>>>> <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> Daedalus wrote:
>>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
>>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
>>>>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
>>>>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
>>>>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
>>>>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
>>>>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
>>>>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
>>>>> prosperous and safe.
>>>>> Bob Kolker
>>>> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
>>>>
>>>> Jade
>>> Where in the hell do you think you are, anyway? That's not exactly a
>>> chalkboard where you're scrawling your incoherent messages.
>>
>> engineers, honey. not physicists. big difference.
>>
>> Get A Clue.
>>
>
> I've been both... totally different worlds... and yes, you
> should do some self education...

seems like someone has reading comprehension issues: since i never
said anything about self education (which is a grand thing) but you
seem to think you have to agree with my nonexistant claim of needing
self education.

maybe you need new glasses.

or is it that you failed so miserably in engineering as to have to
fake it with a physics resume?

--
dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
"i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
-dave hillstrom

 

On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:24:27 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <0nsl641j8q7cleqslch4g1jj45mfe69d77@4ax.com>,
> dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:59:57 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
>> <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <bpql641ut0kgr8upk6vijs60tltb8a724i@4ax.com>,
>> > dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:09:53 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
>> >> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Uncle Al wrote:
>> >> >> Daedalus wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
>> >> >>>wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>Daedalus wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
>> >> >>>>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
>> >> >>>>>and bullshit artists to me.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>[snip crap]
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
>> >> >>>>Idiot.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very well
>> >> >>>that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a physicist.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1) James Clarke Maxwell
>> >> >> 2) Nicola Tesla
>> >> >> 3) James Bardeen
>> >> >> 4) Idiot
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >You forgot Michael Faraday who made the world's first electrical motor.
>> >> >
>> >> >Bob Kolker
>> >>
>> >> and what a piss poor motor it was. only when ENGINEERS got a hold of
>> >> it did it become a useful, broadly applicaple technology.
>> >
>> >physics is applied math
>> >engineering is poorly applied math
>> >
>> >math rules
>>
>> engineering is math made into something USEFUL to the general, or
>> specific, public.
>
>thats what we let you think

YOU are just trying, and vainly i might add, to twist my tail. hah!

--
dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
"i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
-dave hillstrom

 

In article <34ul64la1va7cudj27ap8bjj8kdlhkn8ll@4ax.com>,
dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:24:27 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
> <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <0nsl641j8q7cleqslch4g1jj45mfe69d77@4ax.com>,
> > dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:59:57 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
> >> <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <bpql641ut0kgr8upk6vijs60tltb8a724i@4ax.com>,
> >> > dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:09:53 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
> >> >> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Uncle Al wrote:
> >> >> >> Daedalus wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al
> >> >> >>><UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
> >> >> >>>wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>>Daedalus wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
> >> >> >>>>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty
> >> >> >>>>>professors
> >> >> >>>>>and bullshit artists to me.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>[snip crap]
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
> >> >> >>>>Idiot.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very well
> >> >> >>>that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a physicist.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 1) James Clarke Maxwell
> >> >> >> 2) Nicola Tesla
> >> >> >> 3) James Bardeen
> >> >> >> 4) Idiot
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >You forgot Michael Faraday who made the world's first electrical
> >> >> >motor.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Bob Kolker
> >> >>
> >> >> and what a piss poor motor it was. only when ENGINEERS got a hold of
> >> >> it did it become a useful, broadly applicaple technology.
> >> >
> >> >physics is applied math
> >> >engineering is poorly applied math
> >> >
> >> >math rules
> >>
> >> engineering is math made into something USEFUL to the general, or
> >> specific, public.
> >
> >thats what we let you think
>
> YOU are just trying, and vainly i might add, to twist my tail. hah!

i dont troll and i dont respond to trolls

arf meow arf - raggedy ann and andy for president and vice
limp and spineless lint for brains is better yet and nice
then rueing pair of shrub and dick the republican lice
call me desdenova seven seven seven seven seven seven

 

Uncle Al wrote:
> Daedalus wrote:
>>
>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
>> and bullshit artists to me.
> [snip crap]
>
> Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
> Idiot.

Not even wrong Al,
It runs off electricity
physics only can "explain" how it runs.
Poor Uncle Al,
now he thinks physics is a physical cause for things too.
Does it really burn that much now Al?


--
James M Driscoll Jr
Spaceman

 

Uncle Al wrote:
> Daedalus wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Daedalus wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty
>>>> professors and bullshit artists to me.
>>> [snip crap]
>>>
>>> Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
>>> Idiot.
>>
>> Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very well
>> that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a physicist.
>
> 1) James Clarke Maxwell
> 2) Nicola Tesla
> 3) James Bardeen
> 4) Idiot

All wrong!
LOL
Try again Al!
LOL

 

On Jul 1, 10:06?am, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
>
> Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually
> discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't
> own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in
> the next solar system.
>
> We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells

Making life?

I don't think so.

Bullshit for sure.

> out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy
> building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter.
> And working on this:
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mp...
>
> Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?
>
> Jade

 

On Jul 1, 9:06 pm, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
>
> Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually
> discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't
> own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in
> the next solar system.
>
> We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells
> out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy
> building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter.
> And working on this:
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mp...
>
> Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?
>
> Jade

-----------------
you are absolutely right!!
too many of those 'scientists'
are bump parasites!!


they didnt hear about Occam's razor
and most of them are more mathematicians
tan physicists

iow

their mouth is much bigger than their HANDS !!

(how is my ability to concise things ?? -)

ATB
Y.Porat



T

 

PD wrote:
> On Jul 1, 2:56 pm, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Daedalus wrote:
>>
>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty
>>>> professors and bullshit artists to me.
>>> [snip crap]
>>
>>> Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
>>> Idiot.
>>
>> Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very well
>> that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a physicist.
>
> Are you quite sure about that?
>
> And you might want to look up the Nobel prize associated with the
> transistor.

He stated the discovery or invention of electricity.
Surely you do not think the transistor was such a first?
You must be trying to back up that silly wives tale
about computers not being possible without relativity.
LOL

--
James M Driscoll Jr
Spaceman

 

dave hillstrom wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:27:04 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
> wrote:
>
>>dave hillstrom wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Daedalus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
>>>>><bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Daedalus wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
>>>>>>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
>>>>>>>and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
>>>>>>>deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
>>>>>>>straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
>>>>>>>lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
>>>>>>scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
>>>>>>prosperous and safe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bob Kolker
>>>>>
>>>>>Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
>>>>>
>>>>>Jade
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
>>>> weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
>>>> you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
>>>
>>>ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
>>>automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
>>>and, of all things, architects and artists.
>>>
>>>--
>>>dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
>>>"i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
>>>nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
>>>and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
>>>the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
>>> -dave hillstrom
>>
>>Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an
>>E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size
>>of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody
>>got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as shit wasn't an artist.
>
> youre right.
>
> it was an electrical ENGINEER. not a physicist.
>
> thanks for playing. good luck next time.
>
The clever part is making a PWM commutator look like a slab of wonderbread?

--
nuts