Physicists don't deliver

Discussion in 'Chatter' started by Daedalus, Jul 1, 2008.

  1. In article <b6018291-e43c-41a2-bb15-8332f9af6c43@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
    Igor <thoovler@excite.com> wrote:

    > On Jul 1, 2:57?pm, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
    > > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    > >
    > > <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
    > > >Daedalus wrote:

    > >
    > > >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > > >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > > >> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > > >> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > > >> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > > >> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.

    > >
    > > >The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    > > >scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    > > >prosperous and safe.

    > >
    > > >Bob Kolker

    > >
    > > Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    > >
    > > Jade

    >
    > Where in the hell do you think you are, anyway? That's not exactly a
    > chalkboard where you're scrawling your incoherent messages.


    oh yeah thanks for inventing transistors
    and ultimately the internet

    its not abombs that will end humanity
    but indolence
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Menagerie_(TOS_episode)

    gimme my xbox

    arf meow arf - raggedy ann and andy for president and vice
    limp and spineless lint for brains is better yet and nice
    then rueing pair of shrub and dick the republican lice
    call me desdenova seven seven seven seven seven seven
     
  2. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

    Uncle Al wrote:
    > dave hillstrom wrote:
    >
    >>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    >>wrote:
    >>
    >>>Daedalus wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >>>><bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>Daedalus wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>>>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>>>>and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>>>>>deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>>>>>straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>>>>>lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >>>>>scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >>>>>prosperous and safe.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Bob Kolker
    >>>>
    >>>>Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>>>
    >>>>Jade
    >>>
    >>> I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    >>> weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    >>> you know, the stuff you use, Jade.

    >>
    >>ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
    >>automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
    >>and, of all things, architects and artists.
    >>
    >>--
    >>dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    >>"i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    >>nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    >>and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    >>the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    >> -dave hillstrom

    >
    > Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an
    > E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size
    > of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody
    > got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as shit wasn't an artist.
    >


    We got us a live IGBT!!!

    --
    nuts
     
  3. Aratzio

    Aratzio Guest

    On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:39:26 -0700, in the land of
    alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mariposas rand mair fheal
    <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> got double secret probation for writing:

    >In article <b6018291-e43c-41a2-bb15-8332f9af6c43@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
    > Igor <thoovler@excite.com> wrote:
    >
    >> On Jul 1, 2:57?pm, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
    >> > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >> >
    >> > <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
    >> > >Daedalus wrote:
    >> >
    >> > >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >> > >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >> > >> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >> > >> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >> > >> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >> > >> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >> >
    >> > >The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >> > >scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >> > >prosperous and safe.
    >> >
    >> > >Bob Kolker
    >> >
    >> > Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >> >
    >> > Jade

    >>
    >> Where in the hell do you think you are, anyway? That's not exactly a
    >> chalkboard where you're scrawling your incoherent messages.

    >
    >oh yeah thanks for inventing transistors
    >and ultimately the internet
    >
    >its not abombs that will end humanity
    >but indolence
    >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Menagerie_(TOS_episode)
    >
    >gimme my xbox
    >

    playstation has the best HD DVD player.


    --

    A Number 1, Grade A, Prime USDA 'Ratz
    Accept No Substitute
     
  4. On 1 juil, 17:33, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > On Jul 1, 12:10?pm, srp2...@gmail.com wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > > On 1 juil, 14:06, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:

    >
    > > > I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > > > fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > > > and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > > > deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > > > straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > > > lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.

    >
    > > > Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually
    > > > discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't
    > > > own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in
    > > > the next solar system.

    >
    > > > We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells
    > > > out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy
    > > > building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter..
    > > > And working on this:

    >
    > > >http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mp...

    >
    > > > Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?

    >
    > > > Jade

    >
    > > By definition, orthodoxy maintains status quo. You are expecting
    > > a lot by asking that any orthodox physicist contribute anything
    > > usefull. By nature impossible.

    >
    > > As for non orthodoxes, none was admitted to the club since
    > > the 1930's.

    >
    > > Andr? Michaud

    >
    > So you think physics hasn't changed in any meaningful way since 1930?


    Not one bit.

    GR and SR are still considered by orthodoxy the utmost
    reference.

    QM still is considered as representing physical reality.

    No requestioning allowed (withing the community, of course).

    No progress whatsoever at the fundamental level since the
    beginning of the 1930's.

    Andr? Michaud
     
  5. PD

    PD Guest

    On Jul 1, 1:06?pm, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
    > I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >
    > Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually
    > discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't
    > own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in
    > the next solar system.
    >
    > We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells
    > out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy
    > building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter.
    > And working on this:
    >
    > http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mp....
    >
    > Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?


    There is plenty going on that is helpful to mankind, and in the short
    term. But at the time that the work is actually going on, the news
    about physics tends to focus on the exotica. I have no idea why this
    is.

    You may not be aware of this, but Doppler radar for the detection of
    tornadoes and microbursts was a research project out of Los Alamos
    National Laboratory and invented by physicists.

    Probably the best thing to do is to stay away from Discover Magazine.

    PD
     
  6. PD

    PD Guest

    On Jul 1, 2:12?pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
    > Daedalus wrote:
    > > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    > > <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:

    >
    > >> Daedalus wrote:

    >
    > >>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > >>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > >>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > >>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > >>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > >>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    > >> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    > >> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    > >> prosperous and safe.

    >
    > >> Bob Kolker

    >
    > > Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?

    >
    > > Jade

    >
    > ? ?I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    > ? ?weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    > ? ?you know, the stuff you use, Jade.


    Not to mention the world wide web.
     
  7. PD

    PD Guest

    On Jul 1, 2:56?pm, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
    > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Daedalus wrote:

    >
    > >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > >> and bullshit artists to me.

    > >[snip crap]

    >
    > >Turn off your computer. ?It runs on physics.
    > >Idiot.

    >
    > Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very well
    > that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a physicist.


    Are you quite sure about that?

    And you might want to look up the Nobel prize associated with the
    transistor.

    >
    > The reason I know you are once again trying to pull the physicist's
    > wool over my eyes is that I am in fact not an idiot. I am an educated
    > person. But once again you have confirmed the hubris of the physicist
    > mindset toward the common person.
    >
    > I recommend you tone down your name calling, or I shall be forced to
    > flame you. We can all have this discussion civilly as professionals.
    >
    > Jade
     
  8. On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
    wrote:

    >Daedalus wrote:
    >>
    >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >> and bullshit artists to me.

    >[snip crap]
    >
    >Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
    >Idiot.


    no, it runs on engineering. physicists are not needed to design a
    computer. only engineers. its been so long since physicists added to
    the pc state of the art that its laughable.
    idiot.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     
  9. On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:37:12 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    wrote:

    >Daedalus wrote:
    >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >>>> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>>>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>>>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>>>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>>>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >>>>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >>>>> prosperous and safe.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Bob Kolker
    >>>> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>>>
    >>>> Jade
    >>> I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    >>> weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    >>> you know, the stuff you use, Jade.

    >>
    >> Oh yeah, like physicists came up with all that stuff. C'mon guys. You
    >> really do think we're all a bunch of bumbling rubes out here in non
    >> science world, don't you?
    >>
    >> Sheesh. Next you'll say you invented the automobile or the airplane.
    >> Is this the kind of line your connected university physicists use so
    >> they can get huge grants to play around with quarks?
    >>
    >> Jade
    >>

    >
    > Why don't you think about a bit more Jade... Where did those transistors
    > and integrated circuits come from? And yes they are an integral part
    > of the modern automobile and airplane.


    and for the last 40 years, since a physicist invented the transistor,
    physicists have hardly had even a pinky's worth of forward
    technological motion compared to engineers. get a grip, dude.

    when you figure out how to make a tardis, come on back and well talk.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     
  10. On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:09:53 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:

    >Uncle Al wrote:
    >> Daedalus wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
    >>>wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Daedalus wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>>>and bullshit artists to me.
    >>>>
    >>>>[snip crap]
    >>>>
    >>>>Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
    >>>>Idiot.
    >>>
    >>>Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very well
    >>>that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a physicist.

    >>
    >>
    >> 1) James Clarke Maxwell
    >> 2) Nicola Tesla
    >> 3) James Bardeen
    >> 4) Idiot
    >>
    >>

    >You forgot Michael Faraday who made the world's first electrical motor.
    >
    >Bob Kolker


    and what a piss poor motor it was. only when ENGINEERS got a hold of
    it did it become a useful, broadly applicaple technology.

    thank you for playing. HAND

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     
  11. On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:32:27 -0700 (PDT), Eric Gisse
    <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote:

    >On Jul 1, 10:06?am, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
    >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>
    >> Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually
    >> discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't
    >> own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in
    >> the next solar system.
    >>
    >> We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells
    >> out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy
    >> building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter.
    >> And working on this:
    >>
    >> http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mp...
    >>
    >> Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?
    >>
    >> Jade

    >
    >Next time you need nuclear imaging, keep physicists in mind.


    and thats it, folks. the full list of physicists accomplishments
    during the last 30 years.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     
  12. On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 16:07:04 -0700 (PDT), Igor <thoovler@excite.com>
    wrote:

    >On Jul 1, 2:57?pm, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
    >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >>
    >> <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
    >> >Daedalus wrote:

    >>
    >> >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >> >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >> >> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >> >> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >> >> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >> >> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.

    >>
    >> >The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >> >scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >> >prosperous and safe.

    >>
    >> >Bob Kolker

    >>
    >> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>
    >> Jade

    >
    >Where in the hell do you think you are, anyway? That's not exactly a
    >chalkboard where you're scrawling your incoherent messages.


    engineers, honey. not physicists. big difference.

    Get A Clue.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     
  13. On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:27:04 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
    wrote:

    >dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>
    >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >> >Daedalus wrote:
    >> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >> >> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >>> Daedalus wrote:
    >> >>>
    >> >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >> >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >> >>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >> >>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >> >>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >> >>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >> >>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >> >>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >> >>> prosperous and safe.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Bob Kolker
    >> >>
    >> >> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >> >>
    >> >> Jade
    >> >
    >> > I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    >> > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    >> > you know, the stuff you use, Jade.

    >>
    >> ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
    >> automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
    >> and, of all things, architects and artists.
    >>
    >> --
    >> dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    >> "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    >> nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    >> and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    >> the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    >> -dave hillstrom

    >
    >Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an
    >E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size
    >of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody
    >got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as shit wasn't an artist.


    youre right.

    it was an electrical ENGINEER. not a physicist.

    thanks for playing. good luck next time.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     
  14. On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:33:09 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
    <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >In article <cjel64579liohjd1mp1qehc0pldsm7ubqt@4ax.com>,
    > dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
    >
    >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >> >Daedalus wrote:
    >> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >> >> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >>> Daedalus wrote:
    >> >>>
    >> >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >> >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >> >>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >> >>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >> >>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >> >>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >> >>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >> >>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >> >>> prosperous and safe.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Bob Kolker
    >> >>
    >> >> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >> >>
    >> >> Jade
    >> >
    >> > I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    >> > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    >> > you know, the stuff you use, Jade.

    >>
    >> ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
    >> automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
    >> and, of all things, architects and artists.

    >
    >doesnt faraday get credit for currents?
    >or franklin?


    faraday has the laws, man. but he didnt really do anything beyond
    that towards autos. that was engineers und designers what did that.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     
  15. Aratzio

    Aratzio Guest

    On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:50:06 -0400, in the land of
    alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
    got double secret probation for writing:

    >On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:27:04 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>
    >>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> >Daedalus wrote:
    >>> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >>> >> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>> >>
    >>> >>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>> >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>> >>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>> >>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>> >>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>> >>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>> >>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >>> >>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >>> >>> prosperous and safe.
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> Bob Kolker
    >>> >>
    >>> >> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>> >>
    >>> >> Jade
    >>> >
    >>> > I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    >>> > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    >>> > you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
    >>>
    >>> ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
    >>> automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
    >>> and, of all things, architects and artists.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    >>> "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    >>> nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    >>> and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    >>> the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    >>> -dave hillstrom

    >>
    >>Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an
    >>E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size
    >>of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody
    >>got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as shit wasn't an artist.

    >
    >youre right.
    >
    >it was an electrical ENGINEER. not a physicist.
    >
    >thanks for playing. good luck next time.


    just a few years ago I could not speel injunear, now I are won.


    --

    A Number 1, Grade A, Prime USDA 'Ratz
    Accept No Substitute
     
  16. Aratzio

    Aratzio Guest

    On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:51:42 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
    dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> got double secret probation for
    writing:

    >On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:33:09 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
    ><mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >>In article <cjel64579liohjd1mp1qehc0pldsm7ubqt@4ax.com>,
    >> dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> >Daedalus wrote:
    >>> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >>> >> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>> >>
    >>> >>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>> >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>> >>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>> >>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>> >>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>> >>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>> >>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >>> >>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >>> >>> prosperous and safe.
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> Bob Kolker
    >>> >>
    >>> >> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>> >>
    >>> >> Jade
    >>> >
    >>> > I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    >>> > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    >>> > you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
    >>>
    >>> ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
    >>> automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
    >>> and, of all things, architects and artists.

    >>
    >>doesnt faraday get credit for currents?
    >>or franklin?

    >
    >faraday has the laws, man. but he didnt really do anything beyond
    >that towards autos. that was engineers und designers what did that.


    ought to put his ass in a cage.


    --

    A Number 1, Grade A, Prime USDA 'Ratz
    Accept No Substitute
     
  17. On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT), PD
    <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote:

    >On Jul 1, 2:12?pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
    >> Daedalus wrote:
    >> > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >> > <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:

    >>
    >> >> Daedalus wrote:

    >>
    >> >>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >> >>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >> >>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >> >>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >> >>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >> >>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >> >> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >> >> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >> >> prosperous and safe.

    >>
    >> >> Bob Kolker

    >>
    >> > Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?

    >>
    >> > Jade

    >>
    >> ? ?I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    >> ? ?weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    >> ? ?you know, the stuff you use, Jade.

    >
    >Not to mention the world wide web.


    engineers and software geeks. not physicists.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     
  18. PD

    PD Guest

    On Jul 1, 9:54?pm, dave hillstrom <D...@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
    > On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:31:42 -0700 (PDT), PD
    >
    >
    >
    > <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >On Jul 1, 2:12?pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
    > >> Daedalus wrote:
    > >> > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    > >> > <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:

    >
    > >> >> Daedalus wrote:

    >
    > >> >>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > >> >>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > >> >>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > >> >>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > >> >>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > >> >>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    > >> >> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    > >> >> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    > >> >> prosperous and safe.

    >
    > >> >> Bob Kolker

    >
    > >> > Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?

    >
    > >> > Jade

    >
    > >> ? ?I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    > >> ? ?weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    > >> ? ?you know, the stuff you use, Jade.

    >
    > >Not to mention the world wide web.

    >
    > engineers and software geeks. ?not physicists.


    Might want to look up the history of that a little more. Hint: Geneva.

    >
    > --
    > dave hillstrom ? ?mhm15x4 ? ?zrbj
    > "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    > nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    > and "bar". ?and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    > the privileges of the new office. ?here here!!"
    > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?-dave hillstrom
     
  19. In article <bpql641ut0kgr8upk6vijs60tltb8a724i@4ax.com>,
    dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:

    > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:09:53 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    > <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    >
    > >Uncle Al wrote:
    > >> Daedalus wrote:
    > >>
    > >>>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
    > >>>wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>>Daedalus wrote:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > >>>>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > >>>>>and bullshit artists to me.
    > >>>>
    > >>>>[snip crap]
    > >>>>
    > >>>>Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
    > >>>>Idiot.
    > >>>
    > >>>Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very well
    > >>>that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a physicist.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> 1) James Clarke Maxwell
    > >> 2) Nicola Tesla
    > >> 3) James Bardeen
    > >> 4) Idiot
    > >>
    > >>

    > >You forgot Michael Faraday who made the world's first electrical motor.
    > >
    > >Bob Kolker

    >
    > and what a piss poor motor it was. only when ENGINEERS got a hold of
    > it did it become a useful, broadly applicaple technology.


    physics is applied math
    engineering is poorly applied math

    math rules

    arf meow arf - raggedy ann and andy for president and vice
    limp and spineless lint for brains is better yet and nice
    then rueing pair of shrub and dick the republican lice
    call me desdenova seven seven seven seven seven seven
     
  20. On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:51:21 -0700, Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com>
    wrote:

    >On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:51:42 -0400, in the land of alt.usenet.kooks,
    >dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> got double secret probation for
    >writing:
    >
    >>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:33:09 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
    >><mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>>In article <cjel64579liohjd1mp1qehc0pldsm7ubqt@4ax.com>,
    >>> dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> >Daedalus wrote:
    >>>> >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >>>> >> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>>> >>
    >>>> >>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>> >>>
    >>>> >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>> >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>> >>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>>> >>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>>> >>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>>> >>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>>> >>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >>>> >>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >>>> >>> prosperous and safe.
    >>>> >>>
    >>>> >>> Bob Kolker
    >>>> >>
    >>>> >> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>>> >>
    >>>> >> Jade
    >>>> >
    >>>> > I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    >>>> > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    >>>> > you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
    >>>>
    >>>> ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
    >>>> automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
    >>>> and, of all things, architects and artists.
    >>>
    >>>doesnt faraday get credit for currents?
    >>>or franklin?

    >>
    >>faraday has the laws, man. but he didnt really do anything beyond
    >>that towards autos. that was engineers und designers what did that.

    >
    >ought to put his ass in a cage.


    and here i thought he had been.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     

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