Physicists don't deliver

Discussion in 'Chatter' started by Daedalus, Jul 1, 2008.

  1. Daedalus

    Daedalus Guest

    I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.

    Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually
    discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't
    own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in
    the next solar system.

    We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells
    out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy
    building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter.
    And working on this:

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

    Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?

    Jade
     
  2. Daedalus wrote:

    > I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.


    The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    prosperous and safe.

    Bob Kolker
     
  3. Daedalus

    Daedalus Guest

    On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:

    >Daedalus wrote:
    >
    >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.

    >
    >The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >prosperous and safe.
    >
    >Bob Kolker


    Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?

    Jade
     
  4. Sam Wormley

    Sam Wormley Guest

    Daedalus wrote:
    > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    > <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    >
    >> Daedalus wrote:
    >>
    >>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.

    >> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >> prosperous and safe.
    >>
    >> Bob Kolker

    >
    > Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >
    > Jade


    I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    you know, the stuff you use, Jade.
     
  5. Daedalus

    Daedalus Guest

    On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    wrote:

    >Daedalus wrote:
    >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >>> prosperous and safe.
    >>>
    >>> Bob Kolker

    >>
    >> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>
    >> Jade

    >
    > I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    > you know, the stuff you use, Jade.


    Oh yeah, like physicists came up with all that stuff. C'mon guys. You
    really do think we're all a bunch of bumbling rubes out here in non
    science world, don't you?

    Sheesh. Next you'll say you invented the automobile or the airplane.
    Is this the kind of line your connected university physicists use so
    they can get huge grants to play around with quarks?

    Jade
     
  6. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al Guest

    Daedalus wrote:
    >
    > I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > and bullshit artists to me.

    [snip crap]

    Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
    Idiot.

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    Uncle Al
    http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
    (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
    http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
     
  7. Daedalus

    Daedalus Guest

    On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
    wrote:

    >Daedalus wrote:
    >>
    >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >> and bullshit artists to me.

    >[snip crap]
    >
    >Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
    >Idiot.


    Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very well
    that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a physicist.

    The reason I know you are once again trying to pull the physicist's
    wool over my eyes is that I am in fact not an idiot. I am an educated
    person. But once again you have confirmed the hubris of the physicist
    mindset toward the common person.

    I recommend you tone down your name calling, or I shall be forced to
    flame you. We can all have this discussion civilly as professionals.

    Jade
     
  8. On 1 juil, 14:06, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
    > I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >
    > Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually
    > discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't
    > own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in
    > the next solar system.
    >
    > We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells
    > out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy
    > building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter.
    > And working on this:
    >
    > http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mp....
    >
    > Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?
    >
    > Jade


    By definition, orthodoxy maintains status quo. You are expecting
    a lot by asking that any orthodox physicist contribute anything
    usefull. By nature impossible.

    As for non orthodoxes, none was admitted to the club since
    the 1930's.

    Andr? Michaud
     
  9. Sam Wormley

    Sam Wormley Guest

    Daedalus wrote:
    > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> Daedalus wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >>> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >>>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >>>> prosperous and safe.
    >>>>
    >>>> Bob Kolker
    >>> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>>
    >>> Jade

    >> I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    >> weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    >> you know, the stuff you use, Jade.

    >
    > Oh yeah, like physicists came up with all that stuff. C'mon guys. You
    > really do think we're all a bunch of bumbling rubes out here in non
    > science world, don't you?
    >
    > Sheesh. Next you'll say you invented the automobile or the airplane.
    > Is this the kind of line your connected university physicists use so
    > they can get huge grants to play around with quarks?
    >
    > Jade
    >


    Why don't you think about a bit more Jade... Where did those transistors
    and integrated circuits come from? And yes they are an integral part
    of the modern automobile and airplane.
     
  10. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al Guest

    Daedalus wrote:
    >
    > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Daedalus wrote:
    > >>
    > >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > >> and bullshit artists to me.

    > >[snip crap]
    > >
    > >Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
    > >Idiot.

    >
    > Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very well
    > that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a physicist.


    1) James Clarke Maxwell
    2) Nicola Tesla
    3) James Bardeen
    4) Idiot


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  11. Uncle Al wrote:
    > Daedalus wrote:
    >
    >>On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:41:01 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
    >>wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Daedalus wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>>fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>>and bullshit artists to me.
    >>>
    >>>[snip crap]
    >>>
    >>>Turn off your computer. It runs on physics.
    >>>Idiot.

    >>
    >>Oh no sir. I beg to differ. It runs on electricity. I know very well
    >>that electricity was not invented nor discovered by a physicist.

    >
    >
    > 1) James Clarke Maxwell
    > 2) Nicola Tesla
    > 3) James Bardeen
    > 4) Idiot
    >
    >

    You forgot Michael Faraday who made the world's first electrical motor.

    Bob Kolker
     
  12. Eric Gisse

    Eric Gisse Guest

    On Jul 1, 10:06?am, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
    > I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >
    > Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually
    > discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't
    > own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in
    > the next solar system.
    >
    > We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells
    > out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy
    > building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter.
    > And working on this:
    >
    > http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mp....
    >
    > Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?
    >
    > Jade


    Next time you need nuclear imaging, keep physicists in mind.
     
  13. Eric Gisse

    Eric Gisse Guest

    On Jul 1, 12:10?pm, srp2...@gmail.com wrote:
    > On 1 juil, 14:06, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > > I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > > fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > > and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > > deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > > straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > > lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.

    >
    > > Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually
    > > discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't
    > > own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in
    > > the next solar system.

    >
    > > We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells
    > > out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy
    > > building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter.
    > > And working on this:

    >
    > >http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mp....

    >
    > > Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?

    >
    > > Jade

    >
    > By definition, orthodoxy maintains status quo. You are expecting
    > a lot by asking that any orthodox physicist contribute anything
    > usefull. By nature impossible.
    >
    > As for non orthodoxes, none was admitted to the club since
    > the 1930's.
    >
    > Andr? Michaud


    So you think physics hasn't changed in any meaningful way since 1930?
     
  14. Sam Wormley

    Sam Wormley Guest

    srp2inc@gmail.com wrote:

    >
    > By definition, orthodoxy maintains status quo. You are expecting
    > a lot by asking that any orthodox physicist contribute anything
    > usefull. By nature impossible.
    >
    > As for non orthodoxes, none was admitted to the club since
    > the 1930's.
    >
    > Andr? Michaud


    <laughing>

    My god, Andr?, where have you been... the world (our understanding
    of it) has changed tremendously in the last seven decade... and
    many of the character that led the changes were hardly considered
    "orthodox" in their day!
     
  15. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

    Daedalus wrote:
    > I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >
    > Astronomers are kind of the same way, but astronomers actually
    > discover something new once in a while, or the claim to. Since I don't
    > own a Hubble telescope, I don't know if that giant planet is really in
    > the next solar system.
    >
    > We've got biochemists that are on the verge of creating single cells
    > out of amino acids in a lab and those yokel physicists are busy
    > building giant atom smashers under the ground to look for dark matter.
    > And working on this:
    >
    > http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/01/invisible.cloak/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
    >
    > Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?
    >

    Torll.

    --
    nuts
     
  16. Igor

    Igor Guest

    On Jul 1, 2:57?pm, Daedalus <j...@newtko0ouks.biz> wrote:
    > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >
    > <bobkol...@comcast.net> wrote:
    > >Daedalus wrote:

    >
    > >> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > >> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > >> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > >> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > >> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > >> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.

    >
    > >The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    > >scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    > >prosperous and safe.

    >
    > >Bob Kolker

    >
    > Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >
    > Jade


    Where in the hell do you think you are, anyway? That's not exactly a
    chalkboard where you're scrawling your incoherent messages.
     
  17. On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:06:34 -0400, Daedalus <jade@newtko0ouks.biz>
    wrote:

    <snip>
    >Why not do something helpful to mankind, you k00ks?


    what, like neutering it?

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     
  18. On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    wrote:

    >Daedalus wrote:
    >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    >> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Daedalus wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    >>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    >>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    >>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    >>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    >>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    >>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    >>> prosperous and safe.
    >>>
    >>> Bob Kolker

    >>
    >> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    >>
    >> Jade

    >
    > I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    > you know, the stuff you use, Jade.


    ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
    automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
    and, of all things, architects and artists.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    -dave hillstrom
     
  19. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al Guest

    dave hillstrom wrote:
    >
    > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Daedalus wrote:
    > >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    > >> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> Daedalus wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > >>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > >>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > >>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > >>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    > >>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    > >>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    > >>> prosperous and safe.
    > >>>
    > >>> Bob Kolker
    > >>
    > >> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    > >>
    > >> Jade

    > >
    > > I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    > > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    > > you know, the stuff you use, Jade.

    >
    > ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
    > automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
    > and, of all things, architects and artists.
    >
    > --
    > dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
    > "i believe that the word "fuckhead" has become so wide spread and
    > nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
    > and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
    > the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
    > -dave hillstrom


    Hey stooopid - look up how 1000 ampere currents are switched in an
    E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C car. It's done solid state and the module is the size
    of a sandwich. Not a grinder, either, a Wonderbread slab. Somebody
    got clever. It wasn't a MechE and sure as shit wasn't an artist.

    --
    Uncle Al
    http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
    (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
    http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
     
  20. In article <cjel64579liohjd1mp1qehc0pldsm7ubqt@4ax.com>,
    dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:

    > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:33 GMT, Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Daedalus wrote:
    > >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:09 -0400, "Robert J. Kolker"
    > >> <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> Daedalus wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>> I used to admire physicists in a big way for their big ideas and
    > >>>> fascinating concepts. These days they just seem like nutty professors
    > >>>> and bullshit artists to me. They are the big talkers that never
    > >>>> deliver on much. The daydreamers that don't seem to ever give you a
    > >>>> straight answer about anything. Sure we can fold space or make a
    > >>>> lightsaber in maybe a hundred years.
    > >>> The "nutty professors" have provided the engineers and applied
    > >>> scientists the means of constructing the technology that makes you
    > >>> prosperous and safe.
    > >>>
    > >>> Bob Kolker
    > >>
    > >> Sure. Thanks for the A-bonb. What have you done for us lately, Bob?
    > >>
    > >> Jade

    > >
    > > I was thinking more in terms of CDs, computers, modern cars, electronics,
    > > weather forecasting, global satellite navigation systems, cell phones...
    > > you know, the stuff you use, Jade.

    >
    > ahem. please to be naming a physicist responsible for a current
    > automobile, as i think they are mostly made by mechanical engineers
    > and, of all things, architects and artists.


    doesnt faraday get credit for currents?
    or franklin?

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