One Of The Liberals Heros Has Fallen!!

That question aside, did I or did I not call Gosnell those pejoratives?

 

You paid lip service to the indefensible. Now, if you would condemn all the other late-term & partial-birth abortions (not just the ones being exposed) ...

 

What you said was that this convicted criminal has broad support from the left. That is incorrect. I called you on it, and you now say ABORTION has broad support from the left. That part is correct.

A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll in Janua3 asked about the legality of abortion by trimester, using the question, "Do you think abortion should generally be legal or generally illegal during each of the following stages of pregnancy?" [53] This same question was also asked by Gallup in March 2000 and July 1996.[54][55] Polls indicates general support of abortion during the first trimester although support drops dramatically for abortion during the second and third trimester.

2011 Poll​

2003 Poll

2000 Poll​

1996 Poll​

Legal Illegal Legal Illegal Legal Illegal Legal Illegal
First trimester 62% 29% 66% 35% 66% 31% 64% 30%
Second trimester 24% 71% 25% 68% 24% 69% 26% 65%
Third trimester 10% 86% 10% 84% 8% 86% 13% 82%

(information from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States)

Nope.

Well, first off, the service is not exclusive to any particular political party, and republicans have had abortions. Secondly, the left isn't hiding anything, it's giving you the middle finger.

 

I'm not really sure what part of my post you don't agree with? Which party strives to keep late-term & partial-birth abortion legal?

 

I may as well post this:

(the following is from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States)
Reasons for abortions

Another study, in 1998, revealed that in 1987-1988 women reported the following as their primary reasons for choosing an abortion:The source of this information, takes findings into account from 27 nations including the United States, and therefore these findings may not be typical for any one nation.

• 25.9% Want to postpone childbearing.
• 21.3% Cannot afford a baby
• 14.1% Has relationship problem or partner does not want pregnancy
• 12.2% Too young; parent(s) or other(s) object to pregnancy
• 10.8% Having a child will disrupt education or job
• 7.9% Want no (more) children
• 3.3% Risk to fetal health
• 2.8% Risk to maternal health
• 2.1% Other

According to a 1987 study that included specific data about late abortions (i.e. abortions “at 16 or more weeks' gestation”), women reported that various reasons contributed to their having a late abortion:

• 71% Woman did not recognize she was pregnant or misjudged gestation
• 48% Woman found it hard to make arrangements for abortion
• 33% Woman was afraid to tell her partner or parents
• 24% Woman took time to decide to have an abortion
• 8% Woman waited for her relationship to change
• 8% Someone pressured woman not to have abortion
• 6% Something changed after woman became pregnant
• 6% Woman did not know timing is important
• 5% Woman did not know she could get an abortion
• 2% A fetal problem was diagnosed late in pregnancy
• 11% Other.

In 2000, cases of rape or incest accounted for 1% of abortions.

A 2004 study by the Guttmacher Institute reported that women listed the following amongst their reasons for choosing to have an abortion:[44]

• 74% Having a baby would dramatically change my life
• 73% Cannot afford a baby now
• 48% Do not want to be a single mother or having relationship problems
• 38% Have completed my childbearing
• 32% Not ready for a(nother) child
• 25% Do not want people to know I had sex or got pregnant
• 22% Do not feel mature enough to raise a(nother) child
• 14% Husband or partner wants me to have an abortion
• 13% Possible problems affecting the health of the fetus
• 12% Concerns about my health
• 6% Parents want me to have an abortion
• 1% Was a victim of rape
• less than 0.5% Became pregnant as a result of incest

 

I'm against abortion personally. Politically and socially, my opinion is that only first-trimester abortions be allowed. The reason being that after a certain amount of growth, somewhere in the early to mid-trimester, I believe the brain is developed enough to feel pain as a human being would, and at that point should be allowed to be born.

I would say neither does but, individuals on the left are obviously more receptive to abortions in general. Individuals on the right are obviously more receptive to the idea that "god" or "God" is against abortion.

Personally, politically, and socially, I am against late-term and partial birth abortions. Most people are against it, regardless of political party.

You want to say that "the left" wants late-term and partial-birth abortions, that they "strive" for it, so you say it, but it's just a rant.

 

Wouldn't anything else I say just be dismissed as "lip service"? What's the point?

I don't worry so much about the the rare late-term abortions nor do I defend them or judge them in any way. I think it would be a horrible thing to put the mother, the operating staff, and yes the unborn baby through. Contrary to your opinion, nobody could take joy in such a procedure. Nor could anyone sane take joy in forced mutilation of African teenage girls genitals, or forced lobotomies, or forced sterilizations. The part I can't side with you on is that you try to equate all abortions with late-term abortions. There is a huge difference between later-term abortions and the far, far more common first trimester abortions. Look up the stats yourself.

I'll give you one thing though, you sure love to talk about abortions for some reason. You really have a fixation.

 

Why are you against a woman's right to choose what to do with her own body? Could it be that, perhaps, it's not just HER body, but also the life of a separate human?

Just your opinion. Which means absolutely nothing.

That's putting it mildly. The "left" encourages abortion (in other words, homicide) as a means of population control.

For some, God figures into the equation (on both right and left). For most, it's just a matter of not going against man's law which states that homicide is a crime.

You should qualify that statement by saying that anyone with a semblance of humanity would be against it.

The left certainly cares more for allowing a woman to choose whether or not to commit homicide than they do about the act of homicide itself.

 

So, based on your stats, only a very, very small number of abortions are due to rape or incest? If they only account for 1% of the abortions why does the left always use those abortions in their argument?

 

Ol' fog of war moen defends the abortion industry by claiming one shouldn't judge every abortionist by the actions of a few....why then does he insist on attacking every gun owner based on the actions of a few criminals?

 

Cute but as usual a total lie. Show us where I said, " ...by claiming one shouldn't judge every abortionist by the actions of a few". I know, doctor one of my posts and then pretend it wrote it. Isn't the the you F#@king losers on the Right do it anyway? You know it is.

I've also never judged every gun owner by that actions of a "lot of" mass shooters. You also make that up but what else is new?

You are such a short little fat loser. I just have to ask, does you ass ever get jealous of all the shit that comes out of your mouth.

 

I can't answer blanket assumptions in any way that will appease your curiosity. I can't ask "the left", a group of millions, with millions of individual opinions on the issue, why they, as a group, use rape or incest in their arguments any more than I can ask "the right" why it, as a group, uses "God's will" as the end-of-the-argument on such things.

 

Hypocrite!

 

That's a cop out!
You know, now that I think about it, you & your ilk refer to the "religious right" (or something similar) pretty often when you attack the right...the righties here are always called "typical" yet none of use would appear to be overly religious. What's up with that?

 

English, please.

 

I think that's his rage running over!

 

Perhaps his moronic brain isn't sending the proper signals to his liberal, little fingers.

 

Why do you insist on repeatedly demonstrating what a simple-minded unthinking trog you are? As a rule, no. But when it comes to the specifics of the case maybe. I can't say since I don't know what they are. That's the closest I can come to your foolish reptilian insistence on a black or white, yes or no answer to a complex question. It's clear just by your performance here that people like you should not be making decisions for pregnant women or anyone else.

 

If he used clear standard English to say to you what you need to hear he'd probably be banned. Not to mention it's questionable whether you'd even understand it.

 

Once the baby is born, the woman isn't pregnant anymore! It's no longer a "choice" or do you just not get that? So, it becomes a black-or-white issue at that point. Everything should and must be done to save the baby's life. I don't think that's too difficult for even you to understand. I can't believe that you would say there might be "specifics of a case" where it may be OK to kill it. Liberals like you and Moron Joe make me want to puke.