Occupy movement magnet for violence.

Oh, you know what excuse they'll use...."it's not violent if a left winger says or does it". I mean really, BO's mentor is domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, the guy who on, Sept 11th, said he wished he'd done more bombing & killing of US targets.

 

So you still maintain that all those involved in these protests are Criminals and involved in Criminality? because this is what you have said and I quote "other than the fact they have devolved into a criminal gang? You know..the rapes, shootings, theft, drugs, trafficking in minors, mob violence?"
What you are doing is taking incidents of criminality and declaring that all are guilty of it! By all means report on actions that take place but at least have the honesty to not tar everyone with the same brush

This happend last year at a tea party rally
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVD5pdS9EOw

Then you have this
http://votingamerican.wordpress.com/2011/05/07/shocking-video-of-racist-violent-tea-party-rally/

And this
http://gawker.com/5501717/tea-party-vigilantes-out-for-liberal-blood

Or this
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politi...ty-rally-bare-knuckle-politics-in-the-streets

Now I can find more if I was botherd but I am not. The point I am making is I dont run these reports and claim as you are doing that all those who support the tea Party are crazed right wing fanatics.

We have had major incidents of violence here in the UK at protests in the past yet those involved in the violence/criminality actually had very little to do with the protests they were simply along to cause as much chaos as possible and the same is happening now at protests in the US

 

We have had those kinds of incidents here before. The problem is that people need to paint the OWS movement as criminals because then they can just write them off in their mind. Who cares what a bunch of criminals have to say.
There is an additional problem with the violence. The police really don't want to stop the violence because it gives them an excuse. There were reports of police involved with watching the protest turning a blind eye to what was going on. The protesters in Nashville made a specific plea to the government for just a few officers to come by and assist with troublemakers. The governor of Tennessee responded by saying that they didn't have the funds to provide any police presence. The expense didn't seem to matter when they brought in over seventy State Police to round people up, take them to jail, and hand out citations. They powers-that-be want their to be problems so they can justify using force to stop the protests.

Another example is the fact that the OWS people in New York tried to bring in Port-a-potties, but were refused permission by the city. They tried to provide sanitations and pay for it themselves. The city said no and then acted surprised that people did some unsanitary things.

It is all about trivializing and marginalizing the movement in the name of their corporate puppet masters.

 

I don't mind people not liking the Occupy Movement, or someone like Obama... that's their opinion and I can respect that. What I don't like is when lies are told to vilify the Occupiers, or Obama. That by presenting baseless evidence to the gullible portion of the public, in order to fool them into believing an untruth, those accusers lose my respect.

 

It's beyond me how you can just dismiss that many heinous act so easily. And doesn't it seem the reports of violence & criminal activity are becoming more prevalent the longer this goes on?

 

Dismiss heinous acts. Not on a bet. Dismiss them as indicative of a group as a whole. You bet.

Getting more reports the longer something goes on. Of course, the longer an act occurs the more reports of problems are going to rise. It is like people saying that crime is getting worse because more criminal acts occur as population goes up even though the percentage goes down. Increased numbers plus increased time equals increased incident but does not equal an increased ratio.

The question you really need to ask is:
If you consider the increased numbers of protesters worldwide plus the increased time frame of the protest occurrence is the percentage of increased criminal activities actually rising or falling.

 

Who is dismissing them David I certainly have not, what I have said is you portray the entire movement as been criminals, and I have simply shown you that I could do the same for those who attend tea party rallies using your own logic.

 

Logic? All of a sudden you expect logic?

 

A police officer received a minor injury at a Flea Party protest in Portland, OR when a projectile struck him in the leg. In all fairness, however, we don't know who threw the projectile, whether or not it was actually thrown or perhaps ejected by some sort of device, what the projectile actually was or if the officer was actually the intended target.

One COULD jump to the conclusion that it was a violent attack on a police officer by a member of the Flea Party, but would that be fair to assume? You be the judge.

http://news.yahoo.com/occupy-protesters-defy-eviction-order-oregon-161715651.html

 

An owey on the leg in Portland, a little brain damage in Oakland... Who's to say what's what?

 

So attacking the police is OK so long as it is your side and no one is killed. That sounds like an interesting regulation??

 

Yawn. And I said that where?

 

Indeed. I wasn't pointing out the extent of violence, I was simply pointing out that violence is occurring.

That's why I like you, Takiji... you're one of the few liberals on this forum with common sense.

 

Some people can't go to a little league game without violence so why should such a massively opinion based thing like OWS have some. Should we condemn all little league games because some parents get into a fight and you have to call the police?

 

— In San Francisco, violence marked the protest Saturday where police said two demonstrators attacked two police officers in separate incidents during a march. Police spokesman Carlos Manfredi said a protester slashed an officer's hand with a pen knife while another protester shoved an officer, causing facial cuts. He said neither officer was seriously hurt, and the assailants couldn't be located.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/occupy-dc-apologize-elderly-women-hurt-oct-4-154724498.html

(The video has some vulgar language, so be forewarned...).

 

Violence is to be deplored regardless of who carries it out

 

Violence isn't always a negative... some of it is necessary to prevent worse things from happening.

 

I'll agree to that statement... somewhat. I would have used violence to prevent Jerry Sandusky from molesting a little boy, but I wouldn't use violence against the police if I were a Flea Party protester who was disobeying a lawful order.

 

Hmmmm.....
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/11/woman-raped-at-occupy-philadelphia/