Obamacare is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!

Key phrase "state level"

 

From my perspective, I've been forced to buy insurance I neither wanted or needed for decades (for cars, homes, etc.). To me, this (Health Care Law) is an extension of previous policies regarding group insurance.

 

Car insurance is voluntary...if you don't own a car you don't buy insurance. Also it's on the state level & not all states require insurance.

Home insurance is required by the mortage holder, not the gov't

Obamacare is levied against everyone simply for breathing (except the power libs & special interest groups who are granted waivers by BO).

 

exactly

 

I am curious. Just which federal government agency requires you to buy insurance? I have to start a petition to keep that from happening any more.

 

But, for most people, you need a car.

 

It's completely your choice and is administered on a state level where it should be. When I lived in Mississippi several years ago, one was not required to have insurance at all unless they had had 2 at-fault accidents.

What government agency requires you to carry homeowners insurance? Renters insurance? Life insurance?

 

I've only owned cars, not homes ...and never had to pay renter's insurance. But, I'm not saying all states are the same, or even that the new health care law is the same, only that, from my point of view (in Michigan) I've been forced to buy insurance when I neither needed it nor wanted it. I'm saying that the new health care law is, to me, an extension of that ...that I will be forced to buy insurance that I neither need nor want ...but that's where the similarity ends. The new law requires it on a national level, and isn't like owning a car or a home where you can decide to walk or live on a park bench.

 

....and the light comes on....
Obamacare requires you to buy insurance. How does BO have the Constitutional right to do this?
You claim you don't want or need BO's insurance coverage but guess what? You have to buy it.

 

And you were forced by the STATE and not the Federal government. I do not deny that the states have the right to force you to buy insurance. But not the federal government.

BTW, even without a law to require you to buy renters insurance, I would strongly recommend you seriously look into buying it.

 

I'm not disagreeing that this is national vs State... you are lol

...I'm simply saying I don't want insurance. Period. I can't afford it and I don't need it.

Now, if I had the money... I'd have no issue with it. I'd WANT to protect my valuables (my jewels, in Health Care lingo), but since I'm poor I don't have that luxury.

In fact, as the law stands, I'll probably get it free.

 

Everyone needs health care. Name anyone you can think of that has never used it. Since we all need it, we should all pay for it. Why should the rest of us be paying for people that we know are going to use health care but do not want to pay for it? The government mandate issue is a straw man argument, nothing more. We all pay for roads we may or may not use. We all pay for the military and it is used in ways many people do not agree with. We all pay for countless things that fall under the category of the commons and we certainly do not use all of the commons that we pay for.
The States rights argument is just as inane if for no other reason than a healthy population is vital to national security. Education is a prime example of a national interest that is too important to leave completely to individual states. The interstate highway system couldn't have been built by the states. Large hydroelectric damns couldn't have been built by the states with their multistate electrical grids. The current state-by-state model of health care is failing the population of this country to the tune of 40-50 million citizens. While the single payer model works all over the industrialized world. My feeling is, propose a better model of health care delivery or shut up.
The Right wing's entire argument is about saving the profits of the large health care insurers. They simply add costs that do not need to be there and add a level of bureaucracy between you and your doctor that only considers the profitability of covering sick people not the health of those people.

 

I guess I could ask, what's the difference anyway? If a state requires you to have insurance you don't want vs the feds requiring the same? Either way you're still being (deleted) up the (deleted) right? Bubba's still imposing his will on ya lol

 

Sorry Moen, was writing as you posted... not stepping on ya here lol

 

Okay, but if I have insurance...insurance I pay for & am happy with...what right does BO have to get involved in any of it?

 

What's the difference? Really? Are you that willing to hand over your life to the government? Believe me, that is exactly what they are hoping for & you are exactly the type of citizen they know will vote for their agenda in the future.

 

Do you hand over your life to your state government? If so, what's the difference between handing your life over to the state vs the feds?

 

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

BTW, when the federal government got into education, we were #1 in the world - by far. I have not even seen us ranked close to that for many years now. That is a very strong reason I do not want the federal government into our education system.

 

The 10th amendment to the constitution!

 

I see alot of " we need the government to help us " in this thread....thats the problem today.