Obama Tells Israel: Go Back To 1967 Bborders

Discussion in 'Politics' started by CoinOKC, May 19, 2011.

  1. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    We are Israel's real bargaining chip so I have no issue with us directly saying...this is what we want to see happen and what we will support. It is what we have been pushing for anyway. If Israel doesn't like it, too bad. If they want something different, let them negotiate it without our support or they can go find a different ally who will support what they want.
     
  2. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    PULEEZ show me where. I really do need some documentation on this one.
     
  3. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Well, borders are really the core of the Israeli-Palestinian/Hamas conflict, right? If you aren't siding with with one side, you are siding with the other, right? If you believe Israel is wrong you have to believe the Palestinians/Hamas are right, right? How can you see it any other way? Now I see BO has gone before a Pro-Israeli group to re-affirm his & the US's commitment to Israel. The truth ism he hadn't stuck his foot in his mouth Thursday his appearance today wouldn't have been necessary, would it? He wouldn't be having to explain "what he meant", would he?
     
  4. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    There is also siding with yourself. We pump billions of dollars of aid into Israel and billions more to countries so they don't mess with Israel. I see nothing wrong with standing up, not being a patsy, and saying enough is enough...this is what we want. I would have added 'take it or leave it'.

    Just the fact that he has to go to a pro-Israeli group and say anything about it at all makes me sick. If they don;t like it find someone else to support them the way we do and good luck with that.
     
  5. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    WRONG David not RIGHT.
    You really ARE reaching here.

    Thanks for the total lack of documentation. I expected as much.
     
  6. craig a

    craig a New Member

    I think the appearance was already planned. And from reports, he didnt back down and was still loudly applauded.
     
  7. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Documentation of what? One doesn't have to be an expert in Israeli-Palestinian/Hamas history to know land is at the core of their conflict. Want that documented? Read a history book.
    So, extrapolate that just a bit. If you don't support Israel's position regarding the borders you must support the Palestinian/Hamas borders, right? FYI- this conflict isn't one that really lends itself to neutrality but you know that.
    We'll just have to chalk it up to having the novice-in-chief proving his incompetence once again.
     
  8. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    I imagine the Israeli's want one thing and the Palestinians another. If left to their own ways, each would probably want it all.

    But, I support us and our position. And I am glad a President finally had the cojones to state our stance publicly and to put America's interests ahead of Israels for a change. It is time Israel figured out who is the daddy in this relationship and that we aren't going to just sit back and sink money into this forever. If they don't like it, they can find a new sugar daddy.
     
  9. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Didnt you understand the other post that read previous administrations had kicked around the same suggestion?
     
  10. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    No I do not think that both sides want the same thing David, one side has publicly stated it wants to drive the other into the sea and to turn it red with there blood, the other who Initily agreed to a 2 party state but was forced by events to change that outlook have still given up land I will let you guy's figure out who is who
     
  11. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    The Israelites were a Hebrew-speaking people of the Ancient Near East who inhabited the Land of Canaan. Wouldn't they already be dead anyway?
     
  12. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Because it isnt Israelites. So he either said it intentionally(thats his definition of lying)which would make him a liar. Or he is an idiot.
     
  13. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    45 posts ago and 4 days ago. You are a bit slow on the draw, aren't you?
     
  14. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Why cant you explain how Obama has divided this country, other than irritating those that oppose him? Or did you just make up facts to fit your story?
     
  15. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    I can't speak for him, but I would guess he meant to say "Israelis" instead of "Israelites". Or perhaps not:

    (From Wikipedia): To avoid confusion with the broader use of the term Israelite or the modern term Israeli, a member of the Israelite, as opposed to Levite or Aaronite, lineage is usually referred to as a Yisrael (an Israel) and not a Yisraeli (which could mean Israelite in the broader sense or in modern Hebrew, an Israeli).

    It's difficult to say, but I wouldn't call him a liar based just on a possible grammatical (or even typographical) error.
     
  16. craig a

    craig a New Member

    So by the same logic, would you call someone a liar who had goten dates wrong?
     
  17. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    See, I tend to think calling the Israelis the Israelites would be the definition of slow.
     
  18. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    I think you would have to know the speaker's intent before you could deem them a liar.
     
  19. craig a

    craig a New Member

    A very diplomatic answer. How about just yes or no?
     
  20. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

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