And exactly what liberties did you and I loose in these 5 years?? Examples please.... "And all the terrorists did was kill people..." Could you explain how something else could be worse?
Danr, Danr, Danr, come on now, are you always so stupid or is today a special occasion? Keep this up and I will be suggesting that the next time you shave, you stand a little closer to the razor?
Is life your highest value? Don't you have any higher ideals? As for lost liberties ask any librarian or any peace activist.
There is no hope for you Danr. We will just have to let "natural selection" run its course and let the laws of nature deal with you. Afterall, the stronger and smarter will survive and idiots like you will blow away like "dust in the wind". ...And before I talk to any peace activists, I would ask that they, at the very least, take a bath because just like their views, they stink! BTW...were your parents high on an acid trip when you were conceived? It is all making sense. The children of many of the 60's hippies and have grown up and just like their parents, hate America and will do anything to protect our enemies while this country takes a back seat. They will DEMAND socialist programs, promote class warfare, and sleep good at night being anti-this and anti-that. Interesting subject on genetics...like I said, natural selection will take care of idiots like you and your views.
View attachment 8234 Now this is a peace activist. This is a link to a site that shows people being arrested for peaceful protest of RNC convention http://www.thememoryhole.org/policestate/pier57/
Guys guys guys. You'll never get anywhere with these liberal dopes because you don't have a leg to stand on, even though they are just trying to slam Bush and the republicans. What Bush did was completely ILLEGAL and unethical, and he should be impeached and kicked out of office. In case you didn't know, this country is under the rule of law, not the rule of the majority; so even if everyone says Bush can do this kind of thing, he can't. If the pres was a democrat instead he would have done the exact same thing, but the Times wouldn't have said a thing because all they care about is slamming Republicans and because they hate Bush. CraigG
First let me state that I did not read any of the posts on this topic which is unusual for I usually read all posts on a topic that I respond to. But the bottom line is do you want to be muslim, and still get blown up, or dead. If so then you should attack our nations war on terror. If not then you should realize that Bush is actually not using the full might and the resources of this nation to defend it but then look at the leftist anti-american media uproars at the small legal ,yes legal, thinks that he does use.
Am I the only one here totally confused about what your point is???? Craig, didn't anyone ever tell you not to drink and write? Hickup!
Why bother Moen, I doubt anyone could get the point through your thick skull. I'll bet the only other one confused about what I said would be your buddy danr. Tell me when your hangover wears off and then I'll explain it again.
Guy's I have to say I dont realy care how they get the Intel my only concern is that it is used to save lives, for most of you this Terrorist concept is fairly new we on the other hand have lived with bombs and all the associated crap for years including screams from those who think the Goverment is Satan driven LOL Phone taps need to be used if Bush failed to get concent then he is a F ool but I still agree with the Fool De Orc
We live in America not England, De Orc. We have different laws, and a different political system. I always thought that Brits were dumb because they live under such a tyrannical government(read about Tony Martin), and you are proving what I already suspected. I probably shouldn't be saying this, because it says in proverbs that you shouldn't try to reason with a fool or you lower yourself to his level, but I'm not surprised that you agree with the Fool, De Orc.
Graig I find no cause for you to Insult either myself or my Country, I dont believe that I have called you a Moron or idiot or that you were born demented I would not lower myself to your standards. Can I ask how many Friends, Collegues funerals have you attended due to Terrorist attacks?? ever see a mate have his brains scatterd all over a road by a Terrorist? or the remains of children? if not then kindly sod of back to the land of nod. De Orc :headbang: Ps what the hell would you know about the Goverment we live under or the laws of this land
My name is craig, not graig. You should have found a cause in my post (are you and Moen related). I do not have to go through one of those experiences to be able to comment on this. People always say, "You don't know what it's like.". So what? If someone who did go through it tells me what it was like, thats better than if I have to go through it. Btw, you say in your first post that you "have lived with bombs and all the associated crap for years." It doesn't sound like your governments Intelligence is saving any lives(not that they have any intelligence brain-wise either).
They have saved a hell of a lot more than they have lost, and no you dont have to go through those types of situations but going through them opens your eyes to the need for Intel. Can I ask how many years of it do you want your people to go through? before you wake up and realise that you have to use every available method to combat these people because belive me they dont follow any rules. As for been related to Moen I would rather him any day of the week to someone who appears to think that the UK a Dictatorship. De Orc :yawn:
Just like a liberal! I never said that the U.K was a dictatorship. And we don't have to break the laws in this country to defeat the terrorists. There are several legal ways that would work quite well. #1: Close the borders #2: Go after states that harbor terrorists #3: Cut down on crime so we can concentrate on terrorists more by executing any and all violent criminals. This would work very well in my opinion. It couldn't be done in Britain because it was taken over by liberals long ago.
Now lets see I am talking about using wire taps to pinpoint them You want to Invade more countries and have mass executions (You want to rid the US of violent crime ) Um yep stick with my idea. Also you did say that we had a and I quote 'tyrannical government' to me if a Gov is tyranical it is a dictatorship, Democracies follow the will of the people LOL there again you call it a libral gov? make up your mind. Sorry you dont have one of those do you LOL but consider this if our Goverment is a Libral one then why did it take part in the recent invasion of Afhghanistan & Iraq? Hell you cant even support your own President in his efforts to keep you safe!! De Orc LOL
