Nazi storm troopers now kidnapping citizens off the streets

I've always marveled at the tight correlation between liberals and those who work strictly by-the-clock, take all they can get at every opportunity, and volunteer someone other than themselves to make a sacrifice. It's an extraordinary relationship, but I don't think they can even see it.

 

Trump and Barr... they cant get to ghislaine but they can get to the judges

 

Trump's Cynical and Deeply Dangerous Reelection Ploy: Sow Chaos in US Cities
This is what fascism looks like. It spares no one.
Part of Trump’s reelection strategy is to scare the white suburbs, which polls show have soured on him, with “urban” (read: minority) violence. This is clear from his current campaign ads, which try to paint the gentlemanly Joe Biden as a bomb thrower.

It now appears clear that part of that strategy is to send Federal agents dressed like Iraq War troops to Democratic-run cities, on the pretext of protecting Federal property, and then for them to attack and provoke Black Lives Matter and Defund the Police protesters, causing violence to escalate and using it … to scare the suburbs. The exercise also has the advantage for Trump of entrenching a new form of secret police and of turning Federal agents into instruments of his authoritarianism. White House chief of staff Mark Meadows has confirmed the plan to send the Feds into those cities.

It now appears clear that part of that strategy is to send Federal agents dressed like Iraq War troops to Democratic-run cities, on the pretext of protecting Federal property, and then for them to attack and provoke Black Lives Matter and Defund the Police protesters, causing violence to escalate and using it … to scare the suburbs.

Provoking social conflict so as to polarize society was part of the Russian hacker playbook in 2016. It is the preferred tactic of terrorist groups such as ISIL and the Neo-Nazis, since a polarized society is much easier to scare into submission.

Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler said on CNN on Sunday that the Federal presence and tactics had inflamed the situation and provoked the protesters.

Demonstrators came out again Sunday night for the 53rd night in a row in Portland, Oregon, demanding the defunding of the city police and supporting the Black Lives Matter movement, according to Tom Hallman, Jr. at Oregonlive.com

He writes,

“The Pacific Northwest Youth Liberation announced a 7 p.m. meeting at Cathedral Park before marching to the Portland Police Bureau building at 7214 N. Philadelphia Ave., which houses the traffic division. It sits at the east end of the St. Johns Bridge. Others will likely congregate in downtown Portland, where the Justice Center and the Hatfield Federal Courthouse have been the epicenter of clashes with law enforcement authorities.”




The youth have in recent days mostly clashed with Federal agents sent by Trump on the pretext of protecting the Federal courthouse, and who have used provocative teargas and physical attacks on the protesters. Video posted on YouTube suggests that the Feds, with anonymized name tags and unmarked vehicles, attacked people simply for being in the street and made arrests without warrants or any probable cause. This behavior is unprecedented for Federal agents, who seldom make arrests and have in the past proceeded only with a court warrant. In other words, they are behaving like the Egyptian secret police.

Saturday night, protesters had stormed the Mark Hatfield Federal Courthouse before being expelled by either police or Federal agents, and others had gotten into the Portland Police Association building, where someone set a quickly-extinguished fire.

On Saturday night, Zane Sparling of the Portland Tribune reports, a former naval officer and a Vet, Christopher David, who saw the Federal agents acting unconstitutionally approached them. He said he wanted to talk to them about how they were violating their oath of office. They beat him repeatedly with a baton, fracturing his hand in two places. It is in a splint and will require surgery. But he did not move, earning the moniker “Man of Steel” and “Captain Portland.” Then they pepper-sprayed him in the eyes, twice, and he retreated, stinging and half blind. He says he could have been killed.

No wonder that Federal agent did not want to wear a name tag.

Mr. David had every right to be on that street in front of the courthouse.

Mr. David is an example of how Trump’s scheme can backfire on him. Instead of a scraggly protester to scare the white suburbs with, his goons came up with a former commissioned officer in the Navy, whom they have put in the hospital for standing on the street. That is what Fascism looks like. It spares no one.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/...dangerous-reelection-ploy-sow-chaos-us-cities

 

Really? A tight correlation? But nothing to back-up the statement. No wonder you like Trump so much. Or at least you have learned how to say things with no substance as if they were actually true. Peas in a pod.

You are the same type of fool that believes Trump when he said yesterday that he was going to introduce a health care plan in two weeks. We'll never see it. You do the same thing. Say something in the moment to get out of the situation and then pretend you didn't say it even when there is written/video proof that you did. What a joke you are.

 

And that courthouse, paid for with the dollars of all US citizens, shall be defended to stand as well, free of grafitti and unmolested while demonstrators protest peaceably . . . if they choose not to be peaceful, they know the consequences. They can't get away with playing dumb, and neither can you.

 

DHS chief Chad Wolf on a fox news interview described their efforts as "proactively arresting" protestors. So there you go, they aren't arresting people for crimes, they are arresting random people for crimes they anticipate they will commit... NOW can we all agree to condemn them?

 

I can tell you this. No matter what this unconstitutional thug in the White House does, the crowds will only get larger and larger and violence will be met with violence. This country has been free far too long and the population will not be subjugated by a mad man. If Trump believes this will help him get re-elected, he is dead wrong. All but his idiot supporters and their lust for fascism will rise up against the tyranny. Which side will you be on?

 

Wolf is quoted as saying the following, " . . . we are having to go out and proactively arrest individuals . . . ", but that's just part of the story.

"Anytime that you attack a federal facility such as a courthouse in Portland that is a federal crime," Wolf said. "Attacking federal police officers -- law enforcement officers -- which they have done for 52 nights in a row is a federal crime. So, the Department [of Homeland Security], because we don't have that local support, that local law enforcement support, we are having to go out and proactively arrest individuals and we need to do that because we need to hold them accountable."

The entire interview is much longer, and worth listening to. It makes clear that the use of the word proactively is not anticipatory. Wolf's use of the word "proactively" refers to witnessing crimes in real-time, and not waiting for local law enforcement to apprehend suspects and turn them over to federal authorities, instead proactively making the arrests directly because they are not getting help from Seattle law enforcement.

The context of the interview makes this unmistakable, but liberals will sensationalize this for a week.

You are a victim of misguidance by the liberal media, and of confirmation bias.

 

I'm afraid not, I watched the interview myself to be sure. He's referring to random anticipatory arrests. This is largely referring to the van incident earlier in this thread. So, if it was a real time witness of crime and take down, why did they let him go without charges? He was arrested after doing nothing wrong, they've confirmed this.

 

Of what were doubtless many cell phone videos recorded over the past few days there have been precious few that the liberals have deemed advantageous enough to their cause to air. You are referring to a single apprehension, and could also refer to that tank . . . Of all of the video’ed incidents, how many more do you think we’re shot that are completely useless to your agenda, and maybe even incriminating?

No, I listened very carefully to the interview, and Wolf’s reference WAS to making arrests as immediately upon witnessing crimes as possible, which will undoubtedly result in a mistake or two along the way.

 

Deputy FPS Director Richard Kris Cline had this to say regarding the incident when pressed on probable cause at their press briefing yesterday:

"So, in this instance, you’re probably talking about the van,” Cline said. “So the CBP, the Border Patrol officers–that have been cross-designated with our authority–the individual that they were questioning was in a crowd and in an area where an individual was aiming a laser at the eyes of officers.”

1st of all, cat toy. He means cat toy. Unless there's some new anarchist laser weapon, if so the government should get on that technology!

Being near someone committing a crime when they cannot confirm who it is does not count as probable cause. We latch onto this incident because it's the most egregious violation of the constitution committed on camera so far.

 

About the 1:45 mark



Chad Wolf said the quiet part out loud. A special skill that many of Trump's "best people" have.

He didn't withdraw the comment later, as far as I can tell. Instead, he "clarified" that the Security Squads were "only targeting and arresting those who have been identified as committing crime." Reconciling that with "proactively arresting" people is an exercise left to the reader.

 

Well, leave it to the liberal media to reconcile for the reader, why don’t we?

 

Yeah? Why don’t you volunteer to let some moron with a kitty toy burn your retinas beyond repair? For your information, that’s considered assault, and justifiably so.

It isn’t probable cause for arrest, but it is for detention for questioning.

Like I wrote before, with all of the video that has surely been shot these past few days, if that’s all you’ve got, the feds have actually done a pretty admirable job.

 

Again, you will never convince the true believers that their cult leader is ever in the wrong, is ever anything but perfect, and is only fight the forces of evil. To admit anything at all is to admit their own fallibility. They can never so that. They will die for this pathetic fool in the White House. They are lemmings.

 

Multiple gassings/beatings of the wall of moms, shooting protestors in the head who had their hands up, beating up peaceful veterans (the tank, as we've been calling him here), arresting a person with a service dog for chalking a sidewalk, we've got videos and pictures for all that and more! Would you like to see? Fair warning, it gets a bit gory. Here's a guy shot in the back, never charged, they shot him and moved on.

 

I can't help but think of the outrage we'd see if these tactics were used when the anti-mask protestors stormed the Michigan State capitol with assault rifles and body armor shutting it down for the day. But I guess we'll never know.

 

I note a dearth of substance in your response. Care to try again?

 

Why do you love Nazi's so much? Possibly a long lost German Heritage? Heil Hitler not hate?

 

Is it OK to drive ten miles an hour over the speed limit or thirty miles an hour? Isn't breaking the law simply breaking the law? I am not legitimizing what the federal officers may or may not be doing. I am not there to see.... But why must we legitimize the lawless actions of the protestors/vandals? Doing damage to a federal courthouse is breaking the law. Plain and simple. We cannot as a nation glorify lawlessness. Once we accept that, there is no turning back. Do not pass go - Do not collect $200.00.... It is over once lawlessness becomes the accepted norm. And it won't stop at the federal courthouse. Your neighborhoods will be next.