My last college Essay for this semester - Why I am Pro Choice

You say that though stainless, but the way I took it in a way is that abortion is a type of birth control. That it's okay, that even if we outlaw it, people are still going to do it. That might be true, but also the number will go down significantly. IMHO, why not wait until the full term, and have that baby?? Why not give that baby up for adoption? One of my little siblings would've been killed, if she didn't get someone to adopt her while she was in the womb. I seriously do not see why a woman has the right to kill, or to give life.

Because it is their body. It is the same reason why you have the right to do whatever you want to your body

For a disease yes, but for a child? Again, why can't they wait till the baby is born, and give the baby up for adoption?

By saying this, I would assume that you are against the morning after pill, since life begins at conception (in your eyes)?

Remeber Phoenix, some women never had the choice to use birth control

True. And I can see your point about this. To be honest, I never thought of it like you said. You have me thinking now, lol. But then again, why not wait until the child is born, and allow someone to adopt him/her?


Leaving God out of the picture, we come down to the fact that the human is just another animal...and I see nothing morally wrong with killing it, especially if it isn't a human yet.

But then again, you're still comparing man, to an animal? Granted, there are intelligent animals out there (parrots, monkeys, etc), but they are not equal to man? And not all animals are equal either. An ape is different than a cow, and they are on different levels IMHO.

The fact that it can become something more valueable than a rat is really nothing. Taking this in consideration, how far do you want to go?

But then, using that, what stage of pregnancy is it not okay to abort a child? 2 months? 4 months?

Rats could evolve into a species far superior to a human.

What evidence do you have of that?

Or even better, rats could have something in their system that could help prevent cancer...fact is, you cannot say that a human life is more important than any other animals, as the other animals could have a change for humanity.

I see your point here, and in a way, I agree. But then, you're now reasurring me now to be more thoughtful of other life, rather than thinking it's okay to allow someone to have the choice to kill a child.

Phoenix

 

I agree. But a lot of folks dont think. And maybe MAYBE some good comes out of abortions. It could prevent another Hitler, or Jim Jones or even another me. Trust me one is enough.

 

..or it could snuff out the guy who would cure cancer...end hunger...save your life...

 

On a side note, do you realize the massive number of abortions has helped ruin the Social Security system? The actuarial tables, used originally, projected a greater population than we have now and many more contributors to the system. When you kill off contributors at the clip of several thousand a month it doesn't take before the numbers don't work any more.

 

Good grief. The problem is not a declining population because of abortion, it is because contributions are down, and frankly, there are more people collecting social security than ever before. When social security was initiated in 1935 it was for the benefit of older folks. Now it covers so many things under the sun, that it cannot possibly be solvent as it is.

In case you failed to notice, the population of the USA is not declining, actually it has increased. In fact, according to the CIA, the population is now over 301,000,000.

Gees, if you are going to argue that abortion is a factor in social security, perhaps I should sell you some real estate and banking stocks.

 

I never said the population was decreasing...maybe you should read a bit slower. I said the population wasn't growing at the levels forecasted by the actuaries when the program was started. Sure there are a lot of other contributing factors but add a million or so more people (the aborted lifes) paying into the system and do the math!!!

 

Yes there is that also. Where do you get the figure of thousands of abortions a month are performed in the U.S.? And I am impressed that you think so highly of social security. Seeing as you so strongly believe in one creating ones own destiny

 

Not advocating for or against Social Security, just stating a fact.
While we're at it, I would voluntarily bow out of the Social Security system & plan for my own retirement if I could get everything back I have paid in over the years (wouldn't even ask for any interest on it) and have the withholding stopped from my paycheck.

 

Why want it back? You've never lost a wager or spent money on something frivolous? Maybe you could write SSA and demand that they never send you a check. I'm being abstract. But where did you get the information that thousands of fetuses are being aborted each month here in the U.S.?

 

Gees an' David would hae us believe he is of the conservative cut, but being a pro-Socialists Security sort would surely change the vernacular.

In summary David, linking the demise of Socialists Security to abortion is just not doing it. Socialists Security is in demise because of big bad government planning, or rather lack thereof.

 

Wanting to opt out of the Social Security system is a liberal view in your opinion?

Once again, you don't think the system would be in better shape today (meaning more money in the pool) if there had been many thousands of more workers contributing over the years? Isn't worker contribution the source of money in the pool? Your advocacy for baby killing is clouding your ability to do simple math.

 

How many children are there at this moment in time in the USA, who are waiting to be adopted as a matter of interest? any one have any figures on this.

 

I do NOT advocate abortion, you don't get it. I am clearly and concisely opining that it is NOT for ME to decide that. In case you failed to notice, I am NOT God, nor do I pretend to be one as others in your vernacular would appear to ascribe to such aspirations.

If I WERE a woman I would be against abortion. I am NOT a woman though. Until you are either a woman, and or God, then you have no platform from which to judge from.

 

There are currently over half a million victims, yes, you read that last statement correctly, victims of the foster care programme in the United States. These are children whom because of the ways the statutes allegedly protecting families are set up, cannot be adopted by families with the means and desire therein to provide loving homes for them.

So the latter families find it easier to travel afar, though in essence, it should not be necessary.

 

Where Did You Get The Figures That Thousands Of Fetuses Are Being Aborted Each Month?

 

Yeah, David, answer the flipping question...

 

Actually it seems David was a bit conservative, as it appears it's more like 100,000 per month. approx. 3700 per day, in the US, in 1996 at least. It appears those numbers are down slightly now.

http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/fastfacts.html

Please note that it states those statistics are from pro-abortion sources.

 

Yep, everything I have seen on the web (even from sources such as the CDC) says 100,000 per month or about 1.2 million per year in the US.

Here is one with stats from the CDC and an organization that surveys abortionists.

http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/abortionstats.html

It's a lot folks. In fact, it could probably rank as the leading cause of death in the US.

 

Wonder which city gets the tag "Murder Capital of the US"?

 

You just don't get it. The "it's a woman's body" argument is simply a head fake around the fact that abortion is murder. Woman, man, whatever- no one has the right to end an innocent life. Furthermore, there isn't a lot of middle ground when it comes to pro-abortion or pro-life. Either you speak out against it or you advocate it...just my view on the issue.