Muslims and western society

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It seems more and more stories like this are popping up all over the world.

 

Thats Finsbury Park Mosque. Its a meeting place for radical goat shaggers to go to, where they can listen to arseholes lke Abu Hamza, - well they can again once he gets out of jail. I read he's geting a hard time in there.

Nearby a white guy who went into a bar in a moslem area has almost been killed with a machette.

Ah, the joys of multiculturalism

 

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Muslim father strangles daughter in Canada for refusing to wear a veil
The second one was on Fox news last night. People can say what they want about the barbaric history of Christianity, but at least our barbaric history was over a hundred years ago, not continuing to be accepted and encouraged today.

 

Apparently those fine Christians, Andrea and Rusty Yates, never got the memo before she could save her 5 children from going to hell by drowning them in a bathtub..

 

Apparently you missed the part of my quote that said "accepted and encouraged". There are a few crazy people in every group. I would not blame Islam for the schizophrenic actions of one or two muslims. We are talking about an accepted and known practice among many muslims, not a few insane individuals. We aren't even talking about radicals, Christianity has those. We are talking about a widespread practice, not some secluded group of idiots out in Utah. One of those killings was in the UK and one was in Canada, and it happens all the time in the Middle Eastern countries. Not much you can do about insanity, but beliefs that are part of the religion itself are a different story. So, tell me exactly how your comment about two people who were obviously not following any part of the Christian religion is even similar to the common use of the honor killing in Islam?

 

Ann Coulter:
We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war. ~ Newspaper Column, September 2001.



Tom DeLay:
Ladies and gentlemen, Christianity offers the only viable, reasonable, definitive answer to the questions of 'Where did I come from?' 'Why am I here?' 'Where am I going?' 'Does life have any meaningful purpose?' Only Christianity offers a way to understand that physical and moral border. Only Christianity offers a comprehensive worldview that covers all areas of life and thought, every aspect of creation. Only Christianity offers a way to live in response to the realities that we find in this world -- only Christianity. ~ House Majority Whip Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) at the First Baptist Church of Pearland, Texas, on April 12, 2002



Jerry Falwell:
I do not believe the homosexual community deserves minority status. One's misbehavior does not qualify him or her for minority status. Blacks, Hispanics, women, etc. are God-ordained minorities who do indeed deserve minority status. ~ USA Today. Quoted from: The Religious Freedom Coalition.



Jerry Falwell:
If we are going to save America and evangelize the world, we cannot accommodate secular philosophies that are diametrically opposed to Christian truth.~ "Moral Majority Report," September, 1984.



Jerry Falwell:
The decline in American pride, patriotism, and piety can be directly attributed to the extensive reading of so-called 'science fiction' by our young people. This poisonous rot about creatures not of God's making, societies of 'aliens' without a good Christian among them, and raw sex between unhuman beings with three heads and God alone knows what sort of reproductive apparatus keeps our young people from realizing the true will of God.~ "Can Our Young People Find God in the Pages of Trashy Magazines? No, Of Course Not!" Reader's Digest, Aug. 1985: p142-157.




Gary North:
The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant - baptism and holy communion - must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel.~ Political Polytheism: The Myth of Pluralism (1989)




Bailey Smith:
With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew.~ Bailey Smith, a founder of Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition, speaking during a Religious Roundtable briefing in Dallas, Texas, on June 26, 1994




Randall Terry:
I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good... Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a biblical duty, we are called on by God to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism.~ The News Sentinel, (Fort Wayne, Indiana), August 16, 1993.



Randall Terry:
When I, or people like me, are running the country, you'd better flee, because we will find you, we will try you, and we'll execute you. I mean every word of it. I will make it part of my mission to see to it that they are tried and executed.~ Randall Terry, founder of Operation Rescue. Speech before the U.S. Taxpayers Alliance on doctors who perform abortions. August 8, 1995



James Watt:
We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand. ~ James Watt, Secretary of the Interior under Rondald Reagan. Washington Post, May 24, 1981.



Bunch of extremist f*ckheads, look in the mirror. You are the opposite of Christ. ~ wez


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Her religious beliefs were at the heart of her reasons. And they weren't muslim...


Pat Robertson called for the assassination of the Pres. of Argentina for God's sake.. Where's the outrage? I see the ass on TV daily.. Acceptance and encouragment must be in abundant supply...


Apparently, according to that genius, Jerry Falwell, you are a God ordained minority for being female. Might = Right and Fear = Respect. God and TJ have ordained it... Hahahahahahaha

 

ummm, it was the President of Venezuela (Hugo Chavez,) and there was plenty of conservative outrage over it, and he apologized a couple days later.

The uproar got so bad that ABC Family, which had been showing Robertson's The 700 Club late at night for years, started putting up a disclaimer before the show started:

"the views expressed by the following show do not represent ABC Family or any of it's employees."

 

Insane, hello, nice try though. Show me where it is a part of the larger religion like the honor killings. You can't, because you are reaching. Are there Christians drowning their children all over the world because of their religious beliefs? Nope. Isolated event, doesn't count. Still nothing barbaric about Christianity at large.

Comparing a refusal to accept homosexuality to killing your daughter for not wearing a cloth on her head? Come on, really...

 

He doesn't get it. He is trying really hard to come up with examples that support his view, but has fail to show any wide spead Christian practice that compares to killing ones daughter over sex or a face cloth.

 

So, I assume that you guys agree that The U.S. government should not support, and be in bed with the Saudi Royal Family who condones killing women for being raped? Sounds like encouragment and acceptance to me.. "They", Saudis, are the ones who attacked our country..

 

No, we just humilate rape victims in courts of law and blame them for being too damn sexy..

 

Now you are equating the US Government with Christianity. I could swear it was you saying we should be separating the actions of congress from Islam just a few pages back. Are you confusing yourself?

 

Yeah, that's the same thing... You got me there.

 

Come on man. September 2001? You don't think maybe tensions were a little bit high in September 2001?

But either way, show me where this is Biblically based.

Cool quote, but and where does it incite violence?

Jerry Falwell is a loon, and not real high up on the "Christians listen to him" list. especially in quote that are 20 + years old.

Some guy sharing his opinion. Again, show me where this (or any of this) is biblically based, or even embraced by a multitude of Christians.

I dunno who Randall Terry is, but I can see why he isn't running for pres.

I'm sure there is some negative point to this one, I just don't get it. If Jesus comes back tomorrow it is gonna look pretty stupid to have bought a $50,000 impractical electric car yesterday- won't it? and who is Rondald Regan?

 

wow, jump around much?

 

The US government is equating itself with Christianity. Do you deny it? GB got a little heat for using the "crusade" word.. remember?

 

Do you think a muslim has a different truth/creation than you? And how would Jesus tell you, who label yourselfs Christian, to handle your "enemies"?


So what's this about? Validating killing people based on beliefs or showing love, compassion, patience, and tolerance as Jesus commands of you.. Sounds like you want to validate a reason to hate hundreds of millions of people based on beliefs and the actions of a few.. Who's sticking up for Jesus, thus "Christianity" here, me, or you?

All I keep hearing is "we're" better than "them" and "we" will kill "them" to prove it. Yeah... Mighty Jesusly of you..

 

Uh, yeah. I love our country but I don't think our Gov is the source of the worlds Christian beliefs and practices, and if it were, I have yet to see them condone killing your daughter for not wearing a piece of cloth on her head, or having premarital sex. Even back in the 30's and 40's when premarital sex was shunned we didn't kill our daughters for having sex, we just sent them away to have their babies elsewhere.

Make up your mind. You were blaming the Gov for the promotion of Islam earlier.

When talking about an individual, I believe the phrase was 'turn the other cheek'. When talking about nations, it is a little more complicated.

What does any of this have to do with the honor killings or have you moved away from that topic in realizing you had no valid argument there?

 

We do support the oppressive Suadi/Islamic government.

The world is only individuals, ask Jesus.

There is no valid argument to support "honor" killings.. It's like trying to help victims families cope by watching someone be fried for killing their loved one.. Barbaric. I don't support violence and people playing God..