Military Suspects Captured Soldiers are Still Alive...

If more of our leadership was as angry as I am about being attacked by Fanatical Muslims then I wouldn't be so angry about this position. I would think, IF we were all great Americans, we could unite against these attacks and confront reality!

But obviously some on these threads don't seem to believe we are under attack. I suppose that has something to do with the media not wanting to show YOUR FELLOW Americans jumping to their deaths from a 72 story building. IF, the media doesn't show you the face of evil and what we are confronting then there is no way for the mindless around us to get that information between watching episodes of Real World.

Feel free to attack my passions concerning my country and my way of life! Attack me and keep ignoring the real threat of Radical Muslims. I am the real threat I understand.

 

rant on angry little man...

 

My guess is John was potty trained at the point of an M-16 and then the same gun was used to violate him during basic training. What else could have created something like that? You gotta wonder if the US military is doing us any favors when they release Timothy McVeigh types into the general population when they are through mushing up their heads.


Timothy McVeigh - U.S. Soldier and Terrorist.

One of your buddies John?

 

I am with you 100%...but liberal appesers don't wish to deal with the facts, 6th grade logic and history of islam.

You see, if you can somehow force a liberal appeaser into a point-counterpoint argument, his retorts will bear no relation to what you've said -- unless you were in fact talking about your looks, your age, your weight, your personal obsessions, or whether you are a fascist or what they call, a "neocon"

It is ALWAYS a liberal two-step...liberal appeasers leap from one idiotic point to the next, so you can never nail them.

It's like arguing with someone with Attention Deficit Disorder.

Face it...Democrats are on the precipice of securing their reputation as the "Neville Chamberlains" of our time. In fact, today's appeasers are worse than Neville Chamberlain: Neville Chamberlain didn't have himself as an example.

 

McVeigh was hunted down and prosecuted by all walks of life, including Christians who eventually awarded him a death sentence...and rightfully so.

McVeigh also did not commit murder for his religion either...unlike the 1,000's of muslims attacks in the name of their allah.

You see...liberal appeasers LOVE to bring up McVeigh because that is all they got. However, when you point out to liberal appeasers that "true" muslims want us dead, they deem people like me the enemy.

Good luck with that...

 

jwevansv and OLDdan do the same thing, talking in circles constantly.

 

"I rather be a conservative nut job than a liberal with no nuts and no job.

YOU'VE CLEARLY MADE YOUR CHOICE.

 

That's right...a person that believes in limited government with a strong defense against islamic animals is "conservative nut job".

At least I have a backbone and core beliefs when it comes to fiscal and tax policy along with national defense. What do you have? Generalities?? Pretty gutless...

Your conception of a "plan" and "liberal core value" is a fantasy where that there's a room somewhere full of unlimited amounts of "free" money that we could just give to teachers and hospitals and poor people and AIDS sufferers and the homeless if only the bad, greedy conservatives would give us the key to that wonderful room.

 

Well, let's see, their was of course McVeigh, then there was John Allen Muhammad the beltway sniper, product US Army, Charles Whitman, Univ. of Texas Austin tower shooter and ex-marine, to name a few.

The time for running around and screaming with your hair on fire has past. That would have been before 9/11 but the appeasers in the White House didn't think much about it. Now that we are aware of an enemy and need to be smart about what we do, you guys want to run around ranting and screaming for some damn reason. I'd bet that there isn't a person in this country that isn't aware that we could be attacked if we let our guard down. Running around screaming, the sky is falling, the sky is falling, doesn't really help anything. But if it calms you guys down, and I don't really see how it could, feel free to continue but don't expect many of us to pay too much attention, we've kind of moved on from there.

It is possible to have more than one enemy you know.

 

I should add...Senator Edward Kennedy once said, "The administration had a plan to fight the war, but it had no plan to win the peace."

Well, Ted Kennedy's idea of "a plan" consists of choosing a designated driver before heading out for the evening.

:mouth:

Of course, liberals keep on talking about the urgent need for an "exit strategy". Apparently, the idea for an 'exit strategy' arose sometime after 1993, when Bill Clinton sent all those U.S. soldiers to Bosnia -- who are still there waiting for their "exit strategy", right?

 

I accidentally hit your replay button didn't I? Do I have to hit rewind when your done or is automatic? :goofer:

 

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U.S. Raids Don't Find 3 Missing Soldiers
http://www.losangeleschronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=27747
Associated Press
May 22, 2007
By KIM GAMEL - U.S. soldiers raided suspected safehouses near the Euphrates River south of Baghdad on Monday in their search for three captured comrades but found them empty after the militants apparently were tipped off and fled, a military spokesman said.

It was the latest in a series of frustrations for exhausted U.S. troops hunting for any sign of the trio missing since a May 12 assault on an outpost by insurgents linked to al-Qaida. Four other Americans and an Iraqi soldier died in the attack.

Maj. Webster Wright, a spokesman for the 10th Mountain Division's 2nd Brigade Combat Team, said 27 airborne operations had been staged during the widespread search the last nine days, dropping off soldiers to gain the element of surprise and avoid bomb-studded roads.

'It's very quick, it's very sudden,' he said. 'You can come from any different angle and drop down on a house without being pinned to the roads.'

But he said the insurgents were catching on to U.S. tactics and had fled ahead of raids near the river Monday.

'We went after a couple of objectives and they had some warning systems out,' Wright said. 'They were able to slip away from us.'

He said planners were looking at targets to the west of the division's area of operations. He wasn't more specific, but that would likely include volatile Anbar province, a vast desert area that stretches to the borders of Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Anbar is considered a key smuggling route for insurgent groups including factions linked to al-Qaida.

'We are looking at all of the possibilities that the enemy might be taking. Some of those might options might be to the west,' Wright said.

Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, commander of U.S. troops south of Baghdad, said in a CNN interview that 4,000 American soldiers and 2,000 Iraqis were involved in the search.

He expressed 'cautious optimism' that the three missing men - Pfc. Joseph J. Anzack Jr., 20, of Torrance, Calif.; Spc. Alex R. Jimenez, 25, of Lawrence, Mass.; and Pvt. Byron W. Fouty, 19, of Waterford, Mich. - were still alive.

'We won't stop until we find our fallen comrades,' he said, adding that the military was following up 249 intelligence reports, the majority of which said the three soldiers were still alive.



'We're pursuing all leads with a passion, but right now we believe our soldiers are still alive,' Lynch said. 'Each day that passes when we don't see proof of life, it causes us concern.'

Lynch said more than 1,000 people had been detained for questioning, and two had confessed to taking part in the May 12 attack. 'So they're giving us actual intelligence and we continue to follow through,' he said.

Meanwhile, the platoon whose soldiers were attacked at an observation post near the village of Qarghouli began to regroup, receiving eight replacements for those killed and captured.

The platoon leader, Lt. Morgan J. Spring-Glace, 25, of Worcester, Mass., said he took the new men out on their first operation Monday to search for those behind the attack.

'We've had two missions in the past 12 hours, and this last one my new guys went on, and we just got them like 12 hours ago. I don't even know all of their names. It's been a hectic schedule for everyone,' he said.

His soldiers from Company D, 4th Battalion, 31st Infantry Regiment - nicknamed the 'Polar Bears' - fought exhaustion and dehydration as they searched farm fields and houses in temperatures above 100 degrees. Even the search dogs were haggard from the heat.

At one house, soldiers were told to check everything, looking for T-shirts and pieces of uniforms, anything that the missing soldiers might have been wearing that night.

'They've been keeping busy. These guys are walking themselves to death. These guys are almost in some cases getting run into the ground,' Spring-Glace said.
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http://pzzzz.tripod.com/prayer.html
This combat soldier's prayer,
Who has served his time in Hell,
Is may we learn the lessons of war well,
That we not doom future generations,
The same old tales of horror to tell,
To endure what in youth they see mistakenly as glory.
Oh God, do not let our children
Repeat the same old story.

Make it so that America's babies live to grow old
In this land of the free and the bold.
Help us throw off the shackles of hate that bind
And grow old in a life of a peaceful kind.

Teach us that there is no glory in war,
Nor honor there that brave men should not abhor.
Teach us instead, one for another our brothers to love.
Shower us with thine Celestial message from above,
That we plant seeds of peace evermore
And make war-no-more!
But if I should die on some far, far away battlefield
Know I answered the call
For a grand principle of freedom to yield.
My fervent prayer is that death
May not have been in vain
Fighting for peace and right for the world to attain.

My brothers, American roses standing by my side
On alien soil dying
In the summer of my youthful pride
All the leaves around me falling,

Now I’m lying here still, in sunshine and in shadow,
Longing to hear, “brother next door, I love you so."
For moldering in the soft ground below,
I feel you living and loving in the world above me
Standing tall because I fought that you might be...
Oh look ye down now,
And tell me you still think of me
Honor my red blood, spilt that others might stand free.

Tell me that I did not give my all for you in vain
That brothers and sisters do not look upon my sacrifice
With hateful,
Or even worse,
Uncaring disdain.

Do not forget me when my valley’s hushed
And white with snow,
Grass growing green in the summer of my meadow
Help me see the peace I lived and died for grow.

Make my lonely grave richer,
Sweeter be...
Make this truly,
"The land of the free
And the home of the brave,"
I gave my life to save
That I might too, lie eternally,
Forever free...

 

Ted was absolutely right in this case. There still is no plan 4 years later. How is his statement incorrect?

He was wrong to do this at the time. Comparing apples to oranges doesn't further your arguement at all. He probably sped on the way home from school one day too but that hardly makes everything he does after that wrong. Is this an example of your logic?

That would be NATO in Bosnia of which we are members so I guess leaving out facts serves your purpose. Have you ever thought of going into politics? Half-truths are the backbone of a good little Repubican like you.

 

Great comeback...another liberal two step! You just can't articulate with rational, logic, and 5th grade math, can you?

Is that why liberals never argue with one another over substance? Do you really want the forum/public from figuring out what you really believe?

But continue with the personal attacks...it is what liberals do when they can offer no substance, no rational and no logic to the argument.

 

I like that poem...and I like the message on the site:

Irregardless of your feelings about the wrong or right of this war, it behooves each and every one of us to support our troops...our nation's sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, mothers and fathers. To those who have seen duty clear, far and away from home...

I agree completely.

 

Like that's gonna happen..:mouth:

 

You know someone is going to point out that "Irregardless" isn't actually a real word...:secret:

 

Looks pretty rational and logical to me, but I'm not at all surprised it doesn't to you.

 

Here is a little song which somehow reminds me of your mentality...dd: :rolling: Click the PLAY button.
http://www.folklore.ms/mp3s/1970s/1...9-i-wonder-what-s-under-a-scotsman-s-kilt.htm

 

At least you're thinking about me...Wait a minute, that's a little creepy. :mouth: